Hello, I am new for these things

Hello to all users around here!! Glad to join with Phero-community!! :slight_smile:

So I got my order NPA and Realm, which I ordered at Amazon.com, so I am looking for some results ahead :slight_smile: but there is still bothering me some questions, like:

:confused:I know the best results come with 5:1 mix up (for me it is NPA and Realm mix), but is it true that mix gives better results than use bulb syringe dropper 1x-3x NPA on finger and fast rub it on neck and then use Realm sprayer? Also I would like to know, is the Realm good way to go with NPA, or I should look for something “modern” cologne? :confused:

Also I am trying to figure out how to remove Realm sprayer, do not want to come off the cap :smiley: Friend..suggested me to use saw, just kiddin :smiley:

Why don’t you go and have a read of this, then post a thread in the intro forum:

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934

That way, we can offer better advice and you get your GC.

This thread may also be useful. It contains all the basic info on choosing and using pheros effectively:

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As for NPA - DO NOT go applying it straight from the bottle. That is a near certain recipe for OD as it is pretty-much impossible to dose at that concentration. As well as OD, applying a number of drops, rubbing-in and covering is also liable to have you stinking in no time and.

Mixing is by far the best way to go and depending on your age and other as yet undisclosed factors (not least the phero content of Realm, which I’ve not used), a different dilution may be in order. As for colognes, NPA’s stench is notorious so you need to be looking for something pretty robust and long lasting to cover it. However, you do need to be aware that you will get a wide range of scent hits to pheros (particularly none) - Some folk will discern a stink at the tiniest doses, no matter what you cover it with, whilst others will smell little or nothing at all and some will be amazed at your “new” scent. So don’t let the odd bad reaction worry you but if everyone you know comments badly, you know to change dose/scent! Personally, I use Azzaro Chrome, Lacoste Green or Chanel Antaeus to tame NPA. :slight_smile:

There are a variety of doses where NPA can be effective and there are umpteen good threads that cover duluting and using NPA effectively in this very forum. It is a good one but it is also not the easiest to use, esp straight out of the bottle! :slight_smile:

Edit - DP! :o

so should I add some other stuff for mixes like A314, MX297, Ammo.

My average should be 1:5 at my age.

what a about cologne : Burberry, Realm,
(AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314)

I don’t know Realm but have you thought about what you want to use pheros for?

Because A314 and Ammo are two very different pheros/mixes themselves. I have used NPA/A314 oil very effectively but not mixed - The NPA was mixed in cologne and the A314 oil applied to different app points. Normal sprays and NPA in cologne are better layered rather than mixed anyway. The thought of mixong NPA and Ammo at your age similarly screams OD!

Burberry should be fine to mix NPA with and accurate measuring pippettes can be had at most decent pharmacies or from the store here.

MX297 - Although this is one of the most accessable MX’s, remember it is just that, an experemental product that is still under evaluation and may not be as predictably effective as the consumer line. Again MX297 is a social/charasmatic mix, rather than a full-on attractant and being an MX means it is not covered by the AD warranty.

I would like to use pheros to attract more women, I get along nice and chatty with women, but noone of them seems to interesting in me, like only chatting friend or something, so I was wondering, should pheros give me extra kick.

Should NPA alone do the enough work ? What I mean without these MX and stuff?

P.S I added my introduction :wink:

Pheros give you that kick sure but it wont hypnotize women to sleep with you. I think pheros give you an unfair advantage but you may need to tweak your ‘game’ just a little to really attract her. All you really need to do is escalte the conversation.

Thanks for the reply, so I m heading for some tests:

I started with col Realm and mixing NPA with it, I didn’t find any tests with realm and so on, so I gave a try.

I started with “wrong” way, like applying npa with bulb syringe 1-2x on finger and then fast applying on neck, then adding 2x sprays of Realm, the results wasn’t so good, I was like OD mode or something, but some my co-workers were like more friendly or something, I don’t know exactly dose mones did it or just a coincidence, I know dab on finger is not the right way, OD way..so I just tested being aware of it.

Now I am trying mixing way, got empty cologne bottle and starting with 5:1 , 1 NPA and 5 Realm, lets see what that will do, will post results :3

I made a mix with NPA and Realm, 1 ml npa and 4.3 ml cologne ( I think 4.3 was 1:5 because on the npa it says 7 ml per 30ml cologne), shake it and let it stay for a night in fridge, next day I went to store with my mix, spraying 2 times on a neck and didn’t see any results, only I saw like people was fine with the cologne, but no eye contacts or something special, also on myself I didn’t feel anything special or head ace nothing, I am now thinking, shall I mix new one 1:4 or 1:6?

I would persist with that mix for a few more days - using a different number of sprays, and spread them out a bit - eg wrists/forearms etc.

Also, less is generally better to start-off with as it gives people who know you time to adjust. Simply bludgeoning them with an overt new phero signature can make them step back/set them on edge. Best thing would have been to start with one spray to the throat and build-up the number of sprays and app points, till you see negative responses, then fall back. Only go to a stronger mix after you have explored the limits of this one first.

Have you read Steve’s “Sweet Spot Guide”? It lays out the procedeure very well and is applicable to any phero, not just AD products.

Also, going to the store is not always the best environment to test pheros, esp sexuals, it can be good for socials though. Much better to take them somewhere social/uninhibited - bars, clubs, parties. Places where chatting-up and sex are more on the agenda and people are less constrained and more likely to respond positively to hits..

And to get hits/eye contact etc, it helps a lot if you do something to initiate - Look at people openly, smile, say hello, make a wry comment on something or start conversation in other ways. This often amplifies any obscured response very effectively. :slight_smile:

update: about my journey,

I went to work 5:1 Realm and Npa mix, there are many women working with me together, many different ages, so at the morning I applied 1x shot of mix on neck and let it be tested for 2-3 hours, what I saw was that many were friendly, they are usually always been friendlier but starting the conversation a bit easier. I ain’t sure about here, were these mones, or just good morning, because I have had anyway same mornings. On myself, I didn’t feel anything, only a bit feeling was better, I think It came because aware of wearing mones.

2-3 hours later I applied 2x shots of mix, both on each side of neck, also same results as 1x

2-3 hours after 2x shot, I applied again 2 shots, one to neck, other on chest, also same results as first time with 1x shot.

2-3 later I went 4x spray, each side of neck, each wrists, also same results as 1x spray, no head ace or something special, no hostile actions against me or something*

at last I went maximum spray 6x each side of neck (total 2x), 1x head, 1x chest, each wrist, was looking for negative…but still nothing, same as at the 1x, women and man were same friendly and so on, even no head ace.

What sort of environment do you work in?

Because work, unless it is a realy relaxed/uninhibited place is generally a poor environment to test sexuals because so many folk will hold back/mask their responses in so many ways. Relaxed/social/uninhibited with friends and new people is generally far better for testing.

I work at supermarket, as a warehouse keeper and security manager at same time, people working there, are always friendly, chatting much with each other and a lot of laugh, so I suppose they ain’t “bad or depressive” mood.

also where do you spray your Npa? and how often? ,mobocaster

Usual places and I would say its duration is similar to Ammo, TUTH and any other non alc-base from AD - around six hours in temperate climes and around four in a hot/humid environment.

App points - Excellent guide:

I tend to use throat/neck first for anything with none, then spread out to forearms/wrists if needed. Socials go the opposite way.

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real thanks man, I m gonna read about it :3

I think 5:1 is too much for me, althought I am 22, a bit too much for me, NPA should better be used by older man, same ratio mix or higher for npa, so I think 5:1 is too much for me, I m gonna lower ratio and go for 6:1 or 7:1 will be too much col? What I just regonized, What an Idiot I am :smiley:, Realm itself consist human mones, 5:1 with it should be for me OD? :smiley:.

I would prefer to try Ammo (average strenght 1x) with 1x Mx297, to go IH or IO.
or Ammo with TUTH or IJ

Oh yeah , I still keep also testing NPa and Realm together for info for you guys also :smiley: :smiley: who’s ever tryin also this combo.

Club report by my friend, I myself haven’t found much time for club/pub because of much work, so I made new mix 6:1 and lend it on my friend to test it out :smiley:. At the next day I asked him about his journey. He reported that only older women were interested in him, women around 30-40s :smiley: . He spray’d 1x on neck. He say’d : “When entering into club, women around 30s started to look him into eyes, many of them, pulled him and saying, “come here” so my friend was arounded by women. Younger women like before 30s, were avoiding him, noone of them wanted to start conversation or were ingnoring” atleast I see some improvements :smiley:

I took off some time on NPA testing and I ordered myself
all togo and standard strenght : IS, IO, Ammo, Tuth, mx297 and a surprise present MX433 was added, I am really happy for this unique surprise present :3 :3 . Thank you!

The package arrived within 2 days, which is really fast, I m saying is that Estonia is like other side of earth, npa from UK took about 2 weeks, and when I opened the package, I already sense really nice and moody scent, a yep, a bit fluid is around the bottles, I m not sure which one of em have leaked, anyway checked all of them by bottom 90 degree, all of them are at same level of fluid in bottle, so I cleaned em and set em to fridge.

All the time FULL sprays were done!

At the morning, waking up at 4:50 am, having coffee and some cornflakes, still sleepy. Dressed up, made my hair, no gels or something, I applied 2 shots of ammo on each side of neck, IS - 1 spray each side wrist, and finally a 1x tuth on my adam’s apple.

Then started my car at 5:20 am, self-effect, I felt like, good mood, I wanna do something, energy, picked up my work coworker and while driving at work, we had lot of talk, fun, mostly I was the part who chat much. Then we arrived to work.

at 7:30 am, a blonde ( 22 yrs old I assume) came at our window, and she said “hi” to me and she was looking at me, staring and smiling, we didn’t have much conversation and she had to go to dressing room, nothing more usually happened, only people were greeting me " good morning" smiling so on, as usual stuff.

At 10 am I sprayed 2x Ammo on each side of neck, and adding IS on hair 2x sprays, bottom of head. at 10:30 am a coworker ( she is 22 years old really hot looking and slim) came to me, at first I thought for work-thing, but we started to chat a lot, she was looking into my eyes a lot, smiling, we had much laugh and she took my hand and drawing dandelion on my hand and said “Try to blow it” and smiled, she added “when you will manage, I will come out with you tonight and smiled” then we talked a bit more and we had work to do. Around place everyone were really nice to me, smiling so on, but nothing stupendous act.

13 pm I went with 1x Ammo on my left side of neck and Right side of neck 1x IS, also nothing much happened, usually as before, “smiling and really nice” at 16 pm I added 2x Tuth at upper chest each side, and 3x IS , each side of neck and one to wrist which I put together my wrists( didn’t rub or anything) and also same results.

I m thinking of new testings for finding some sweet spots and dosage:

ALL regular Strenght:
thinking of combos:

1x Ammo(neck or upper chest)
2x Ammo(neck or upper chest)
I don’t really want to go over 2 spray because I think I will OD, I am 22

2x IS stand alone(hair, neck, wrists) mabey up to 2-4 x sprays max
2x IS + 2x IO combo (hair, neck, wrists)
1x Tuth (neck, chest, back neck) + 2-3x IS (hair, wrist, neck)
2x IO (neck, hair, wrists) + 1 TUTH (neck, upper chest, chest) + 1-2x Ammo (one on each hand)
1-2x MX297 (neck) + 1-2x Ammo (neck) + IS 2-4x [hair, wrist( in 2x IS and 2x IO might be add)]
1-2x Tuth + (neck, chest, upper chest) 2-4x IS (wrist, hair neck)+ 2-4x IO (same as IS app points)
2x IS (neck) + 2 IO (neck,hair or wrists) + 1x Ammo (chest)

Also checking mix with mx433, it is say it should be same as IS, but a new diffuse tech so It think I will try it also as replacing IS at combos

also coming 2xIS + 1xAMMO and 2xMx443 + 1x AMMO