Hi everyone! 
I’m Lucy, a 19 year old female from England. Firstly just want to say thanks for the welcome message Steve, i’ve been having a little wander around the forum and it sure does live up to the claim of being a friendly open community, i very much look forward to being a part of it
Anyway, i heard about pheromones quite a while ago, but was quite ignorant of what they actually were, and was doubtful as to whether they did, in actual fact, happen to exist at all. It was only recently that i became more interested. I was reading an article online about a study that was conducted into women’s monthly cycles, and it found that when women spent periods of time with other women, their monthly cycles started to mirror. Apparently this was to do with chemicals (copulins) each woman secreted that the other subconsciously picked up on. I found this quite interesting, so i did some more research and found that copulins also ignited attraction in men. Anyway, after lots more research i bought some copulins (Essence of a Woman), however i’m having trouble with them as they smell horrible and i have no idea how much to wear! When i wear them (even with lots of perfume) everyone asks where the horrible puke-y smell is coming from, and my twin brother looks at me really oddly and refuses to be around me as apparently i smell. lol.
During my research however i found a lot of ‘pheromone’ products, previously i would have dismissed the idea as ridiculous, but now i think, copulins have been proven to work, and they’re chemical messages, so why not pheromones..? …So here i am, open minded and hoping pheromones will work as well for me as they seem to do for all you guys!
I am generally quite confident, but my problem is that i sometimes feel like i am being overlooked. I feel like people (particularly guys) have a tendency to dismiss me as a ‘dumb blonde’. I am not blonde, but i have a pretty face and figure, and whilst I can say the odd silly thing (I lack common sense sometimes), i am in actual fact rather intelligent. My chemistry teacher’s honest words last week were, that he thinks through life people will underestimate just how clever i really am. Now i’m not asking for something that will make me appear brainy, as i know that’s not really possible. I’m just looking for something that will make people listen to me, value my opinion, and give me more of an alpha vibe (but not in an intimidating way, just more like they see me as a leader and a capable women kind of way). I was searching through the forum, and it seems MX134 would have been perfect.. but you don’t have it anymore? 
.. is there anything like this?
Also, one more question.. on another website i saw some pheromone infused conditioner (as apparently the hair follicle is great at absorbing/clinging to pheromones), which sounds pretty cool.. but my problem is that i use hot appliances to straighten my hair.. will this kill the pheromones?? or cause them to damage my hair at all?
Thanks!
Hi there Lucy,
Thats cool that your from England and only 19.Thats definitely a fun age for testing out pheromones.Haha,yup.this forum is definitely a very friendly place(^^)Thats cool that you tried out some pheromone products after reading about them in an article.Lol,yeah.Ive heard that copulins smell pretty bad.Bit weird that you cant cover them with perfume though.Must be pretty strong(><)That sucks that people think of you as a dumb blonde.Thats a pretty mean and often unfounded preconception.Lol,some of the prettiest one are the most intelligent as im sure you are(^^)Hmm,i think MX397 is known to give off a bit of an alpha vibe.Im not 100% sure though so you would need to do a search and read up on some of the effects to see what it does.Dont think pheromone infused conditioner would actually have enough pheromones to be useful(><)Could try them and see just for the heck of it though.You may want to try out some of the consumer line here first though which definitely have effects.(:-p)Instant shine to put everyone around you in a good mood and relieve stress is a pretty good one to try.Maybe some instant openness to make people more chatty or instant honesty to make conversations more deep.Instant sexiness B is also good for attracting guys but dont think it is the vibe you want since its a more sexy,kittenish vibe.All the best and hope to see more of you around the forums.You sound like a pretty cool person.These 2 links may interest you also as they will help you get the best out of your mones when you get them.Catch ya later(^_^)Dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of
Hi Lucy, thats how mixes work, they come and go
I would suggest thatyou take a look at what looifookmeng suggested, which are social mones, they work better for you in your current situation
Thanks looifookmeng
I shall definitely have a look into MX397 then, and yehh kittenish isn’t really what i’m after.. i’ve tried that style before, and unfortunately it tends to get me walked all over! And thanks for the links, i shall read them now. I’m glad you agree about the preconception, it is unfair! Although i guess i’m not the only one, i think a lot of women can get treated as ‘the dumb blonde’ when they are in actual fact highly intelligent beings, i think it’s an inbuilt stereotype, and in order to get round it you have to really assert yourself, which sadly i’m not very good at! 
I’m very interested in instant shine, i think i shall be buying some of that.. and maybe the honesty too.. that could be interesting if it works..
And the copulins really do smell horrible.. i think i’m going to give up on them as i haven’t really seen any good effects and it makes me feel so self conscious when people start saying there’s a weird smell and i know its me! :o
Hi there and welcome to PheroTalk! I always think its so cool to meet up with others from distant parts of the world! I’m from the LA area in California, so hey!
I’d agree that IS/b is NOT what you want. I think your thought on IShine is right on. I like the confidence bump it provides me with others feeling comfortable around me. I think that you would do well with an MX like 397. THAT really got my wife going! Spring in her step type of thing, in control vibe to others. However, as it is an MX, like the P molecules, are for testing and may not give you the same results.
Give IShine and IH a try, see how the mones work in you and in others. Read up on the MX397 and then order it if you think it fits you.
Now, for the cops, I’ve read the forums on the difficulties of application. It can be a bit of a hit and miss. Take a look at a couple of threads on cops here. You can also search EoW and get more. Unfortunately, you have to sift through the threads to find what you would need.
I also suggest you read up on the how and why Androtics does mones in precise amounts and application points on this thread:
And to confirm what you already know on cops:
Thanks for joining and I’d like to see what mones and cops do for you, once you get a handle on them!
Haha,yeah.Kittenish is a good vibe for some girls but would definitely make it harder to be taken seriously.Though those girls tend to use it to get favours more than anything.Hmm,yeah.Girls tend to be discriminated against that they arent as smart.Think its usually more that guys know that girls are smarter so they are jealous and have to put down those girls to up their ego.Its a bit silly since a lot of girls are really smart(><) Hmm,instant shine is pretty good but the effects are pretty subtle so it takes a few goes to notice them(^^)Honesty definitely works,i really like using it for dates with my girlfriend.You get a really connected feeling.Haha,yeah.You probably should stop if the good effects arent worth the bad effects.The stuff from here smells pretty nice anyway so you wont have that problem.They all come in neroli which is a pretty nice smell.All the best and good luck with your testing(^_^)Your gift certificate should be issued by mickaelia within a day or 2 after the weekend and you will be able to get right to ordering.Hope to catch ya around the forums since you sound pretty awesome.Definitely start a journal also as it makes it easier to keep track of dosage and hits.
LA! Wow, we english can only hope to dream of places like LA 
Haha.
Thanks for taking the time to find me those great links, really appreciate that
I love the research articles, makes me think that these pheromones aren’t just a dream, but that they actually do work, which makes me all the more excited! 
.. i was also reading an study done on estratetraenol and that it activates a part of men’s brains that causes attraction. I saw it on the androtics website too but it says something about being a reporting user to buy it or something.
Okay you’ve persuaded me.. honesty is now on my buy list also! 
and it’s reassuring to know that all these things smell nice.. i don’t think i can stomach the idea of walking round smelling of puke even if it would supposedly attract positive attention! lol
Hi Lucy, welcome to the forum
I have the same problem with EoW, my perfumes don’t cover up the smell very well either. I think many people on here use Pink Sugar as apparently that covers up the smell pretty well
Hi!
I had a note about not writing on the forums. So, feeling guilty, I take part in this one!
A lot of talk about the copulins. As your age has been brought up, I think the copulins might not be necessary. I know it’s different between the sexes, but as mentioned about the guys, we shouldn’t wear too much like TUTH or other heavy andosterone (sorry for a possible typo … still learning the lingo) as our bodies, while we’re young, produce that stuff enough anyway! (Expect for very few cases.)
So, as you’re just 19, I think the copulins are not necessary. (Some may think otherwise.) In my own opinion, you could go for IH and IS. Instant Honesty would be good to try getting peoples real opinions of you out in the air. Just think of something good in comeback, I’m sure you can!
It’s a common and stupid thing that beautiful people couldn’t be smart as well. Well, some people are envious and tend to say bad things of people …
Anyhow, others suggested the IH and IS and I agree! From what I can say, I think the fragrances are great!
Have a nice adventure in the world of pheromones!
hey LemonTea,
I don’t know much about the pheromone products for women, but I’m sure Instant Shine (as you’ve been told already) might get you some positive attention and give off the “I’m so happy in my own skin” confident relaxed vibe. It’s happy, but not silly; confident, but not intimidating, quite the contrary - inviting and approachable.
I also recall some ladies succesfully using small amounts of A314 oil in their combos for a bit of alpha aura.
Welcome to pherotalk Lemontea!
I think you should give eow another try as many use it on the forum with great results and if you go to the female section they can give you some tips on how to cover up the smell.
I know what you are talking about, as a beautiful sexy woman it is hard to be taken seriously. These days I try my hardest to steer the conversation to my face and away from sex.
I think most times it just depends on the man or men you deal with and try to find an intelligent crowd that has more to talk about.
So be mindful of that with the products you chose and how you steer the conversation.
Social products are your best bet.
Your gc was issued!