Hello everyone!! I’m a 27yo female from Florida, and a newbie to pheromones. I heard about pheromones a few years ago, but never researched it until now…and I’m super interested! I’m very outgoing and cute (I think 
), but I’m dominant in most settings, and my natural demeanor, and ‘serious features’ tend to make me look intimidating, and unapproachable at first, so I’m usually the one who approaches new people I meet. I’ve learned to smile more (I just look plain mad when I don’t smile 
), and have a more open, approachable posture (I cross my arms most of the time. I give lectures on how to be more approachable, go figure!), but I guess I’m naturally guarded in most ‘new’ settings and situations, which I’m sure adds to my ‘intimidating’ factor. I heard about this forum through members from another, recently joined forum on pheromones. I’m hoping to get some ‘umph’ with being approachable, particularly at work, but I know this can be great socially too! So, I’m pretty stoked about the information I’ve already learned! So, tell me, what are some suggestions on pheros for everyday wear? Social outtings? I look forward to hearing from you guys! Thanks!!
Hi there,
Thats cool that your super interested(^^)Always more fun to try new things when you enthusiastic.Thats cool that your outgoing and cute,always good traits to have.Thats a pity that people dont approach you since im sure they would like you after talking to you(^^)Good that your working on your body language to appear more approachable and its pretty understandable to be more guarded in new situations.I get pretty nervous and appear unapproachable in new situations too(>_<)Thats cool that you got here from another forum.
K,for what you want.Would probably go with instant shine and instant openness.The instant openness will make people more chatty and give you a more approachable vibe while the instant shine will improve the mood around you and give you a positive vibe.Those two are really good for social outings and should help people see you as more approachable and not intimidating.Some instant sexiness to appeal to the guys also may help but i haven’t tried it since im a guy so you may want to wait for a female viewpoint(^_^)All the best and hope that things go well for you.Dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
Thanks so much!! Yea, I’ll see what the ladies say about Instant Sexiness! LOL!
Hey there SportyCurve5!
Allow me to be the first to welcome you to the forum!
Hmm though I am not fully versed with the women’s products on the forums, I can speak on the ones that work for both genders. To me it sounds like IS and IO could be particularly useful to you!
IS ought to be able to help you with smiling, it is sort of like liquid sunshine. I am generally a happy guys, but this just pushes my mood ever higher. It also has that effect on those around you, they are happy to be around you.
IO on the other hand tends to make people more talkative, though if you use too much, it can cause people to ramble on and on. The two of these together could make you much more approachable. They would work well both in social settings as well as an everyday mone. I’ve worn both everywhere from school to on dates with good results.
I’m sure one of the ladies on here will step up and talk about some of the female specific products.
Edit: By IS I meant instant shine, not Instant sexiness
Thank you Tacarov!!! I noticed these are from Androtics. Do you guys have any experience with others as well?
Have tried a few others but androtics is usually a good start because you can try them almost risk free when you get your gift certificate.
Hello Sporty and welcome to the forum.
I saw your other hello (and what you ordered). Welcome to this forum. The products here are a little different but they are good solid products. Many of us use other products as well but this forum is sponsored by Androtics so we usually keep our comments focused on their products. Now they will let you discuss other products as long as you do not provide a link to them but you do not see it happen much.
I have the same problem that you do. I can seem intimidating from both my size and demeanor but I am really pretty friendly though a dominant kind of personality.
So you need to do the same thing that I do - lighten up phermonally. And for that you need the social products:
IShine will help people around you feel happy to be near you.
IO will help witht those intial chatty conversations. But all the gab it generates can drive me crazy sometimes so I do not use it as much.
But my favorite is IH. It helps people feel connected to you. And as a result these people will talk to you about what they feel is important or what they think you feel is important. I use this at work a lot to help keep the lines of communication open.
And as has been mentioned you can go try IS/b. It gives off a low key sexual vibe. It may help soften your perceived personality but in the end I do not know if that is really you. But if you are interested in using pheros in that realm also you can give it a try when you are ready.
Hope this helps some. Goo luck, let us know what you decide to do and keep us updated on what happens.
Not a problem at all! I’ve received a lot of helpful info when I was first starting out so it is nice to give back.
The only gender neutral products I’ve used are Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.
I talked a bit about the first two, Instant Honesty is awesome as well! It can helps to speed up building comfort and rapport. Of course over doing it can lead to people feeling comfortable enough to say way more than they normally would. I’ve had some hilarious results from using this.
The mones wont work miracles for you, to me they are the equivalent of a nice haircut, clothes or something like that. They give you a bit of an edge, but when it comes down to it they only build off of how you yourself are acting.
Thanks! Yea, I’ve been looking around for a couple of weeks, and I’ve seen some good info on the androtics products, so I’m definitely going to try them out! I’ve also see talk about ‘individual molecules.’ Can you explain that? From what I gather, its just the pheromones individually, right? And this may be a weird question, but here goes…in my line of work, I often see people trying to abuse substances (prescription meds) in a way thats not normal (instead of taking the tablet to treat their medical issue, they crush it and snort it for a feeling of euphoria). I’ve heard of patients snorting their antipsychotics! lol. So my question is, could this be an issue with pheromones? I know, I know, its way out there 
But the pharmacist/professor in me just had to ask!! lol!
Tacarov, That definitely makes sense. I’ve read info on the IH! lol. I bet it can make for a time of laughs!!
Yes - individual molecules means the individual pheromones instead of the products where they are pre-mixed. The would mean buying alpha-nols and beta-nols instead of IO or IH. Both products contain both but in different ratios. IO is alha-nol heavy and IH is beta-nol heavy. It is more advanced and I would recommend sticking to the Instant line for now.
The second question is a valid one. You cannot get addicted to the pheromones. In fact a lot of very experienced users recommend going phero free one or two days a week just to clean them off your body completely as some are a little “sticky”. Now you can get addicted to the fun of watching the results around you but that is something else.
Thanks bosshank! Yea, I’m going to play around with the already made mixes first! I’ve read about ‘OD’ and ‘ghost effect’ I think thats what theyre called. lol. And I’d definitely be a little weirded out if I was ‘being stared through.’ Also, one last question, I promise Are there any recommended beginning strengths for the different pheromones? Meaning for pheromone A 2mcg/spray is best, but for pheromone C 100mcg is best. Do most sprays just combine the total mcg/spray for all of the mones? I’m curious about what research says seems to be the ‘most effective dose’ for these different pheromones (I know, its the pharmacist in me. lol). Or can you direct me to a thread where I can read up? Ok, maybe that was more than one question. The science of these little things is so intriguing to me. I remember when I was in middle school, we learned about pheromones in ants. Its so cool how science has revealed humans can be affected by pheromones too.
If you do the Instant line the strengths are pretty much as they come. They used to let you order up to 4X strength for IO and IH and that is what I would do. They would charge you slightly more but you could get a higher dose with that much less neroli scent.
As for individual molecules it all depends on what you want to do. If I order individual molecules for the most part it is because I am making a mix (composite) for myself and I do that in the 30 ml blue bottles. So to make mixing easy I get the molecules in 30 mcg concentration so it is a 1 mcg/ml easy ratio. This way I add so much of A, so much of B, etc. until I have my mix. This is a little more advanced and to be honest I just make good mixes others have developed. I do not experiment making my own mixes some several do here.
Now if you are going to layer products - ie spray one thing on, then spray something else, then you would probably want to get very specific dosages. But even then that can fluctuate from person to person to a degree. For that you would have to do some research to find out what strength has worked best for most people and hope it works best for you too.
ODing usually only happens with 'none which is the “heavy” male pheromone so that should not be a problem for you. Ghosting - putting on so much of anything it just overrides peoples brains and they just kind of ignore you if you sit there silently - is not easy to do but can happen with just about anything I guess. I say that as I am big and hard to ignore. Plus I tend to go light.
It is all very interesting. Like you it really appeals to the nerd in me as much as anything. “What can I make happen with this mix?” or “This will help me at work” kinda thing as opposed to clubbing. Bering married and wanting to stay that way and all. I just read an article where the writer quoted an author who said that pheros do not exist as far as people are concerned. Well, you just keep telling people that I will keep applying my pheros, thank you.
Ok, I see. Its pretty much personalized for the most part. I looked on the androtics site, and there really isn’t a large selection of women’s products 
…and the instant shine listed under the women’s section is listed as a man’s product…is Instant Shine a unisex product? I thought it was. especially since the togo sizes dont specify. But I wouldnt want to purchase a large bottle, and it be the men’s version and have to go through the trouble of doing a return. Thanks!!
IShine is a unisex product. They list it under that mens side as most of the people buying these products are men. The IO and IH are unisex also.
It is personalized in that you will need to figure out exactly what dose works for you. But most people find their “sweet spot” - where they see the results they want - in a certain range. It does take a little experimentation at first. Part of it is that each of us has a particular phero signature naturally and each one is a little different from the other. I think that is part of the reason that certain people just “have it” naturally - they can just draw people in.
Thank you!! I’ll def be putting an order in now. Just wish their other female products were in stock But I’ll keep checking.
Welcome to pherotalk Sportycurve!
Even with the experimental mixes that AD is now coming up with you will see that they most of them are unisex.
There have been many threads and questions about the lack of women’s products and you will find more answers in the female section.
Your gc was issued!