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Well, my name is Chris, I’m 15, and I live in Texas. I’ve been looking into pheromones for a while now since I saw a program on Discovery Science.
So, here is my situation:
I’ve never had a girlfriend, girls aren’t very friendly to me, nor or many guys for that matter. (FYI, I don’t usually use grammar, but I guess I will here :stuck_out_tongue:). So, I always just tried to ignore it. When I was 13 (or 12) I went into a small depression, then in 8th grade I was fine again. In 9th grade, I tried to get out there more, you know, more social. So I befriended a few people (because people seem to avoid me…) and I asked 2 of them out (a few months apart of course). Well, it went horrible. I’ve been in a horrible depression for over a year now because people just won’t… you know, be nice to me?
Well, after I saw that program on DS, I’ve been looking into pheromones. I’m starting to think that maybe I have a strange level of pheromones?
Well, none the less, I’m hoping to learn a lot more about this new science, and maybe, just maybe, I can turn my life around. :slight_smile:

Well, also the thing is, my parents are very very overprotective, so if a package of pheromones shows up at the door for me one day, they’ll freak. So I’m kinda hoping to find a solution to that too. :stuck_out_tongue:

I hope I can get to meet you guys, and leanr more about this field!

If you want to know more about me, you can just contact me over xfire (if you have it). My SN is toledos.

Also, a few questions here:

  1. Do you think my problem might lie in pheromones?
  2. Do you think I can fix it with this science?
  3. What spray/amount do you recommend using. (yes, I have read A LOT on the boards, but I still want to be sure here!)
  4. How can I get around my parents knowing? I know a lot of you will probably dis approve of this, but I’m in a really bad depression, and I need to try all I can to get out of it. If any of you have been through a major depression, you will understand for sure.)
  5. Do I sound like a nerd because I’m using grammar? :stuck_out_tongue:
  6. If a kid on the track team jumped in front of your car while you were doing a blind curve, making you slam on the brakes, and the brakes being shot, would you kick his ass? (yea, it happened to me yesterday)

Well, I hope you all will be able to answer my questions, and that I can become an active part of this community! :slight_smile:

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Hi Chris, welcome to the forum.

You’ve got a lot of questions there. Mind if I ask some of my own? Do you have people in your life who are your age who are just friends? What is your personality like? Are you shy or are you outgoing (aside from getting people to like you, for the moment.) Do you feel you’re a patient guy, or do you get angry easily?

I plan on asnwering your questions, as well, but I’m hoping you’ll comment on my questions too. I look forward to your reply…

Thanks!

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Well Chris, first off welcome to the forum. There are many very experienced mone users on here that I think will be eager to answer your questions. I can answer #6 though. We’re a board of lovers, not fighters. 'Nuff said :smiley:
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Hi again, Chris, I wanted to go through your post, point by point.

Without playing armchair psychiatrist, assuming that your pheromone signature is fine, why do you feel that people react to you in this way?

I’m glad you’re trying to do something positive about your situation.

Perhaps, but frankly, I’d imagine you might look to other factors as well (IE, social skills, grooming, dress and other personal behavior) they may be easier to address. If you had other issues with your endocrine system, that would be for a doctor to decide. You’re young, you’re only just beginning to produce pheromones., but you’ll be putting them out in bucket-loads.

Keep this thought in mind, pheromones will enhance the qualities you already have, they will not make you into something you’re not. Read the link in my signature on congruence. Then read the link on what pheromones can and cannot do, also in my signature.

We can only speculate. We’re not there to see all of the factors at play in your life and even if we could, we’re not scientists or specially educated behavioral analysts. We’re simply enthusiasts who believe in the power of these products. I’d hate to tell you “yes, we can fix this” and have you see little or no results.

Every person is different, there are a lot of factors-- age, race, blood type, genetics, temperature, climate and environment (and probably a number of other things I’m not even thinking of) can all effect your results. Not only that, but different products require different dosages by their nature.

We’ve all experienced depression at some time or another. From experience, I can tell you that hiding it is not a positive thing to do-- for you. I don’t know how to encourage you to do the right thing here.

Do I? :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

If anything had happened, the kid who did that would be responsible, assuming you were driving at the legal speed. It was a stupid choice for him.

When we’re kids and teens, every issue seems magnified. Don’t dwell on him. Focus on making yourself the best person you can be and everything else will fall into place. That is a promise I can make.

You’re always welcome here!

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Hey Toledos,
Welcome to forum. I really hope that pheromones will make your life better, but as we know , thats not magic. You will have to try yourself either.
Reading your post, I made my conclusion.. You are having small self confidence. Dont think about yourself as a nerd. You are the same biomechanical organism as everyone else. You think - using grammar is for nerds ? Actually thats one of the reasons which shows, that not all people at your age degradated.
Since I made my own conclusions on your characterestics , I would recommend you A314. You are teenage, but I think it will help you with selfcondence. Of course - A314 makes other feel for you like a man who aint reachable, but believe me. They wont treat like you are treated right now.

That was my own opinion. But maybe you can tell us a bit more about yourself like Robbie already asked ?

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Wow Robbie, thanks for that thought-out post there.
Well, I’ve always thought its my looks. Though I’ve been told numerous times “Well, you’re actually pretty hot, but just not my type”.
Uhm, I am actually 1/4th Portuguese, 1/4th British, and 1/2 American. So… Yea.
If I’m allowed to, I can post a picture of myself on here (though I’d take it down after a few days) so you all can make your opinion on whether looks have anything to do with it.

Here is a little better explanation of my situation as of right now.
I have a few loyal friends, though only 1 I consider my best friend. There is only one girl who is actually attracted to me. When I ask people if they want to hang out, every single one is “too busy” or something, of course I find out that later that night this kid Brewer called them and asked to hang and they immediately said sure.. I haven’t actually gone anywhere and hung out in years so.

anyway, enough sappy stories!

And to answer your questions Robby:
I’m really fast to anger, but let me tell you when I say that it stays inside me. I never snap at people unless they like, completely piss me off… which has only happened i think twice.
I used to be completely outgoing when I first moved to America, but after a year people just didn’t like me, and so I sorta became more and more shy. For the past few months I’ve been trying to be outgoing again, but with mixed results. Only a few new friends, and they’re mostly freshmen lol.
My personality, I never show me true colours, not even my parents approve of them. But I always always try to come off as nice. I don’t mind sitting there for hours listening to a girl talk about her bad day, I’d like to take a walk on the beach. I’m usually quiet, but once you know me, I can be really exciting (except on the internet, I’m always like that :stuck_out_tongue:).
And yes, I do have friends for just friends. I mean, I have 5 girls (all of them from this year of my extremely hard work at being outgoing) who are my “friend”. Still, all but 1 seems reluctant to talk to me, and sometimes pretends I didn’t say anyhing when they’re around their friends.

If I’m typing too big of paragraphs, just tell me lol. I’m just trying to get my entire situation out there.

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you know what you need to do? you need to completely overdose on A314 then find that kid again and tell him to f off!

I think the product YOU need most is IG, why IG and not A314? because it’s more of a cool-guy respect vibe whereas A314 is more I-mean-business kinda respect which will make you far too intimidating to your peers and it wouldn’t suit you anyway.

Start off with IG and mix in 1 spray of ammo and those girls (or fake friends) will start to see you in a new light and will slowly pay a bit more attention to you. A314 would be too much of a 360 for you, but IG was just made for you.

Oh and Robbie said “When we’re kids and teens, every issue seems magnified”, this is 100% on the money, I used to get really hung up on small issues and it felt like I could never escape, but as you grow up you’ll suddenly change and grow stronger and realize how weak we were as teens. You just gotta hang in there for now.

Anyway start with IG and ammo first, and maybe IO + IS if you can spend more. You’ve got a lot to learn though, the more you read the more you’ll understand exactly what these products do. It’s not as simple as it seems. Good luck.

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Toledos :] I was shy @ 14-16 either… Now im for others like “Could you just stfu?” :smiley: Ok.. Not as bad as i said now, but something like that. Do you have any hobbies ? I mean.. You could take a part in some groups…

Oh.. btw.. what car you are driving ? :smiley:
I would contact you via xfire , but since im on linux, i can only contact via skype , since im too lazy to use my cedega in deal :x

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Alright, well thanks for this guys!

and Dahu, I’m driving a '99 explorer.

My hobbies include:
professional gaming (participating in tournaments for money)
Driving really fast :stuck_out_tongue:
Seeing movies
I <3 shooting more than anything else lol
and offroading

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Hi again, toledos!

Thanks for your kind words and your reply! And thanks to the other posters who have let you know that what you’re experiencing happens to many people, you’re not alone.

You don’t need to post a picture, I do believe you’re attractive. The thing is, don’t get too wrapped up in physical beauty. Many guys who are not Brad Pitt act as confident as if they are Brad Pitt and they get plenty of women and have lots of friends. Read through the posts made by Steve here on the forum.

I see in you that you hold onto the negative things that have happened to you in life. Storing up those negative feelings is like drinking poison and expecting the person you’re angry at to die! You have to let that crap go. Right now!

I can only speculate, but perhaps your anger comes across to people who meet you. You need to know, negativity is unattractive-- VERY unattractive. People like to be around other people who make them feel good, and if you’re always easy to blow up, angry, complaining or coming off negative in other ways, people will stay away, no matter how hot-looking you are.

So smile (as often as you can, smile at everyone!) and relax!

When other kids see you have a short fuse, the taunting goes up so they can watch the fireworks when you explode. The best way to diffuse their behavior is to not act in the manner they expect. Blow it off, ignore them. Of course, if someone is harrassing you, that’s a different issue and should be taken up with someone of authority, like your parents or a teacher. If you ignore the bullies/taunters, they will probably increase their pestering for a while, because they remember that your nature is to have a short fuse and they expect that if they keep it up, you’ll revert back to your original behavior. If you hold out, refusing to give them the fireworks they expect, they will move on to an easier target.

Relax when it comes to women. Just learn to enjoy and appreciate the company of the people around you and you will attract more friends than you would on looks alone. If you are a genuine (very important word, genuine) open, caring, sharing person, people will light to you in a heartbeat.

The great thing about being your age is that it’s soo easy to transform yourself. Relax, be more positive and enjoy yourself. Of course, there are always going to be the spoil sports that will try to get you to revert to a negative person, just realise that’s their problem and you are too busy focusing on yourself to deal with them. They need to work things out themselves.

So, after all of my long-winded post, what do I recommend?

First, Instant Shine, it will add to your confidence and charisma levels. You have a lot going for you already, but sounds like you can still use some enhancement. I totally agree with Vic about the Instant Gentleman. James Bond in a bottle. Instant Openness should also be at the top of your list. It will get people around you talking. You want that. You want people to associate being around you with having fun, open conversations. It may take some time, but you will see a snowball effect. The more social you are, the more opportunities you’ll see with girls. The two go hand in hand.

Good luck! :slight_smile:

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Hello Chris, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I think Robbie has given you excellent advice and insight on your situation. I know 15 can be hard but you will grow up and situations will change and things do get better. Being active in trying to change your life and improve yourself is a excellent first step. it shows a maturity and strength of character. Things may be tough now but know then when your a little older and dating and meeting girls becomes a bit more interesting you will have the upper hand. Most important thing is to be true to yourself and keep a positive outlook,

Yes and no, Its the age, your young and you have a whole lifetime ahead of you. Your hormones are not settled yet so your pheromones are probably off a bit. Boys don’t finish puberty until they are 17 or 18 years old and everyone develops at different times. Your time is coming and your doing great actively looking for ways to enhance and improve yourself.

Time will fix it, mones will improve or enhance whats already there, But no, science alone wont do it. You will have to put a effort forth and you have begun to do that which is great.

As I said your 15, finding your dosage is gonna be hard. It will be different each time until your hormones settle. I strongly suggest you stick to the social mones. IO IH Ishine

I strongly suggest you talk to your parents about your depression if you feel its a deep one. Mones can not cure this, Depression is from a hormonal in balance and is not the same as being sad or upset. There is no way we can suggest keeping it from your parents.

No, Real men use grammar all the time.

No I would yell nice ass out the window and go get my brakes fixed.

Thats all you really need, so your ahead of the game already. You will find as you grow up that there are many levels to friendships. I am not saying to stay home and not try. There is always room for more friends but most people start out with a few close ones. Don’t, assume when it comes to the Brewer situation. Perhaps when you talked to them they were busy and when Brewer called they weren’t. Who knows but you do need to make a effort to get out and hang out with friends.

No way around this really, The package doesn’t say Pheromones on it but they may look inside and there will be a invoice. Best policy is to just tell them the truth.

Your GC is on its way and remember you have only just begun, 15 is not forever.

Tisha

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Thanks Robbie AND Tisha. I hope all this advice will help out some. :X :slight_smile:

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…you’re welcome

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And you vic. :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t know what I’m gonna do with this card though, $25 is below the limit lol.

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Try some to-go sizes. They are good for testing before you buy the big one.

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sorry guys

It might have looked like I grabbed the $25 and ran, but I didn’t. About a day after I recieved it, my computer just flat out blew up. I haven’t been able to get one until now!

So sorry for any kind of idea you guys got. :stuck_out_tongue: Merry X-mas, happy new year and the like! :slight_smile: I’ll be back to posting very soon.

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NP. Glad to see you back. Everyone here has had computer problems at one point or the other so we all understand.

Though you might want add this onto your original Intro post or move it into the mens section.

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Lol, this is so funny.

Anyway, even if you ‘ran’ I dont think it would be a problem since its part of the risk of running a business.

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No worries. Im sure when you receive your items you will get some good results. Keep us posted.

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Its ok I did it for you :wink:

Tisha