Help building a phero combo

[itnega48]

Ok, so I’ve been using pheromones for about a month now, and still trying to figure out the best mix combinations. I have a decent sense of what each one does individually but don’t really have the “instinct” necessary to build combos for particular situations.

The Pheros I currently have are:
Instant Shine
Instant Openness
Instant Honesty
Instant Female Magic
A314
Turn Up The Heat

I’m also willing to buy something if it would make a major difference, but I have a preference to the commercial products as opposed to the putatives (sp?) because I’m still a newbie. I’ve considered buying Instant Gentleman but just haven’t been able to justify it yet.

Any tips you guys have for this particular situation would be greatly appreciated:

Basically the story is that a girl I dated for a really short time in high school(long story behind it but the short version is we just weren’t compatible at the time to be more than friends, and I wasn’t nearly mature enough to have a relationship, so we ended up just becoming really close friends, though we definitely have a chemistry) and I are meeting up to get coffee and hang out in a week. We were friends for about 2 months before and for about 2 years after, until we got into a fight 6 months ago (about something unrelated). We made up over the phone about a month ago, but in that 5 month interim she broke up with her boyfriend of 1.5 years.

Now, I’m not really sure where we stand, as most of our time as friends were when she or I were not single…now we both are and I’m curious which pheros would a) maybe make it more clear what direction she is thinking and b)maybe push it in the direction of being more than “friends”. TBH, I’d be ok with being friends, but I’m home from college for the summer and would like something fun to do for a few months .

Another quick somewhat question is how does Turn Up The Heat come across if you are hanging out with a female friend in either a one on one non-date setting or in a small group of 3 or 4? Would it be more in the direction of making them think of you in a different way or make you appear to be “coming on” to them, possibly in an uncomfortable way?

Finally, are there any ways to tell if you’ve OD’ed if you’re with friends that probably wouldn’t have the heart to tell you ? I think this might’ve happened once or twice with AMMO and A314 (separate times).

Thanks for anything you have for me, I really appreciate it.

[renny]

Hey, sounds like you’ve got the right start on pheromone use. Good job.

The combo question just happens to follow onto this thread started by Bosshank you might want to read it.

A314 and Ammo Combo Question

I use both or variants on a near daily basis. Now there is some overlap in the individual pheromones in both products although A314 certainly has more as reported and the ratios are also certainly different. My question is this: When we wear both A314 and Ammo at the same time are we sending out the two distinct signals of Ammo and A314 … or are we just throwing out a lot of signal, but one that is neither really one or the other? If it is the latter are we just sending out an off-kilter A314 …

What you might want to do is think of it this way…A314, Ammo, and IG are the ones that are contain androsterone, they can act as your “base”. The next thing is the androstenols IO and IH. You might like one better than the other or you might even prefer CTTM2. Now a base and a 'nol is a perfectly reasonable combo, but you could add a situationally relevant “topper” of Ishine, IFM or TUTH. You could even leave out the 'nol and just use a base and a topper.

Think of the base as relevant to who you are, the 'nol as your social projection, open or more connecting (honesty just really isn’t quite the right word but it’s what’s on the bottle), and the topper should be relevant to the situation, shiny, comforting, or sexxxy.

As far as whether you should get IG and/or AMMO, it’s not needed but I think you’ll find as you go along that it’s nice to be able to switch around some. Hope this helps you develop your “instinct”.

[Daedelus76]

If you can’t justify Instant Gentleman, maybe 1 drop of A314 combined with something else, like Instant Openness, Instant Female Magic (assuming you can tolerate it- you have tried it, right?) and Instant Shine?

I don’t know about Turn Up The Heat but I have worn low doses of androstenone around women (that know me well) in conversation and I don’t believe it does much- it was thoroughly normal though I’ve always felt a little edgey wearing any. But the dosage was very low, probably only 2-3 mcg. I wouldn’t use Turn Up the Heat for what you are trying to do. Turn Up The Heat would probably just seem too “wrong” or different. Androstenone seems to give off the most blatant vibes and seems the most polarizing- people will either like being around you or dislike being around you. It sems to me, after all, what you want is a romantic relationship with this friend, right? (and not a fling?) Most people, men or women, say they are attracted to somebody that has a “good sense of humor” and is sociable, at least according to most surveys- being a “bad boy” isn’t even on the short list. So something like Instant Openness and/or Instant Shine is probably a good thing to use over Turn Up The Heat. A low dose of Ammo might be another possibility, combined with IS/IO/IFM.

[Phya]

@itnega48

The Pheros I currently have are:
Instant Shine
Instant Openness
Instant Honesty
Instant Female Magic
A314
Turn Up The Heat

I’m also willing to buy something if it would make a major difference, but I have a preference to the commercial products as opposed to the putatives (sp?) because I’m still a newbie. I’ve considered buying Instant Gentleman but just haven’t been able to justify it yet.

Are you a student? Do you work? Do you work in a corporate/business environment? How have your results been with a314? I found recently that someone didn’t respond that well to a314 because he couldn’t vibe with it at first. I gave him some Instant Gentleman and the ‘security and dependability’ was still there, though some off the ‘edge’ was gone. I would recommend it. I find it makes for a very good base. I would recommend it.

@itnega48

Now, I’m not really sure where we stand, as most of our time as friends were when she or I were not single…now we both are and I’m curious which pheros would a) maybe make it more clear what direction she is thinking and b)maybe push it in the direction of being more than “friends”. TBH, I’d be ok with being friends, but I’m home from college for the summer and would like something fun to do for a few months .

A) Maybe, at the very least, you’d make it clear you want something. Be it space, a conversation, a smile…some body conversation.

B) Again, maybe. As always in these situations, it is on a case by case basis and tricky. Ultimately, it ends with how you play your cards and how she feels about how you played them.

C) If you’re just looking for someone fun to do for a few months, (I don’t necessarily suggest this), you could just be upfront about it. If you guys are cool like that, then it’s always an option.

I’d recommend a touch of Instant Female Magic, a healthy portion of Instant Honesty, and good dose of Instant Shine. I don’t have too much experience with TUTH because I don’t feel comfortable using it around people I know, but I suspect a hint of -none would be good for signaling that it’s not all about comfort. You should adjust each dose of product for your own body chemistry. Speaking of TUTH.

@itnega48

Another quick somewhat question is how does Turn Up The Heat come across if you are hanging out with a female friend in either a one on one non-date setting or in a small group of 3 or 4? Would it be more in the direction of making them think of you in a different way or make you appear to be “coming on” to them, possibly in an uncomfortable way?

Like I said, I don’t want to use TUTH around people I know, just because I wouldn’t want them to get the wrong idea. There are only a handful of girls I’d wear this around intentionally. That’s either because I’ve already been intimate with them and know that we can flow easily from intimacy to friendship or I want to try and capitalize on pre-existing sexual tension at the risk of polarizing my relationship with her.

@itnega48

Finally, are there any ways to tell if you’ve OD’ed if you’re with friends that probably wouldn’t have the heart to tell you ? I think this might’ve happened once or twice with AMMO and A314 (separate times).

Well, it’s usually called the ‘ghost effect’, if you can guess why then you’ve got one piece of the puzzle. They might not necessarily ‘tell you’ but they will ‘show you’.