I’ve been using pheromones for 5 months now. My initial question is, does your body start to react as you use pheromones? React, in my case, by creating more -none or other sexual pheromones?
It’s a stupid question, but I have to ask since my observation during the past week and a half have me puzzled. I did not change the amount of pheromones I use and I’ve been sticking with mixes that work best for me. Funny thing is that I start to get a lot of “friendliness” from older women crowd (age mid 30s - mid 40s) while my age group (early 20s - late 20s) started to show less interest WHEN I’m using pheros. Please keep in mind that when I was using the same mixes and dosages during the earlier times, I got very VERY good hits from my age group.
No offense, but when mid 40 year old lady comes up to you with sinister looking smile, carassing your arm, and say “Good Morning! How was your weekend and what did you do? blah blah blah,” all I can do is throw an awkard smile and slowly take small steps backwards (or run the other direction and never look back).
The question at the top was on forefront of my mind during this past week and it finally hit me yesterday. I was on a plane for a business trip and next to me was this really cute blonde who also happens to be medical student (I like smart girls ). She struck a conversation with me and showing various IOIs. Funny thing is I was “phero-naked.” This was the most recent phenomena, but similar situations took place recently when I was not using pheros or at least the ones without -none.
I was under the impression that Asians can get away with more -none based products and my blood type is not even O. There should be no -none buildup on the application point since I shower everyday, scrub those areas hard with soap, and wipe them again with rubbing alcohol. It’s embarrassing, but I still have to ask just so that I need to make some adjustments.
It is unknown as to whether pheromones applied will affect your body’s natural levels and output, but it is strongly suspected.
Secondly, you are attracting older women because of –none build up. Higher –none levels tend to attract older women and put off those that are younger (18-25ish). Around the late 20’s and early late 30’s women begin to react to –none in a much stronger fashion. One can only guess as to why, but my theory is that of their biological clock. Women are more responsive to –none during ovulation and if their clock is saying, “Hey! Make a baby before its too late!” then one should assume that the reaction to the dominant male sex pheromone (-none) would be stronger.
I’m sad to say that washing and scrubbing is not always good enough with –none. It can stick around for days, especially with build-up. This is why Androtics recommends taking a 2-3 day break from pheromones per week. This will help to tame buildup and on some individuals prevent it entirely.
I try not to wear a –none based product more than 2 days in a row. Then I stay away from it for 3 days.
Remember, even 1 spay of ammo can be an OD to the young girls for some guys.
Thanks Toilofday! I always liked your posts, and I find you one of the top analytical person in this forum. Very observant.
I thought that it could’ve been -none build up, but I do take two days off each week which is always weekends (my plane ride was on Sunday, so routine non-phero day for me). Funny thing is I wasn’t getting the type of hits from older women (at least not obvious ones) during my earlier experiments with pheromones as I was using heavy -none based mixes. Great hits from younger crowd, but unnoticeable from older crowds in those days. Perhaps I should spread the days out even farther and try not to use -none based products two days in a row even with A314 or go phero naked for a week.
It’s possible that with your ealier experiments you were hitting the ghost effect range, but still being social so it negated the sensory shock to your targets.
A314 can cause some serious pheromone sticking problems. Anything oil based lasts FOREVER!!! Lol, but 12 hours is not problem for an oil mixed with a sticky molocule like -none, which a314 has in it. sooo if you are mixing ammo and a314, expecialy if you apply the ammo to a location on your body and then put on a314 over the top of it, that could cause some major time defying build up.
yeah…not that you are, but try to not put on ammo and a314 over the top of each other. (or in your hair)
Ill second that Toilofday your posts are well considered and extremely valuable.
I usually take at least three days off a week from pheromones but now im wondering if thats enough
Thing is ill often use A314 and Raw Power over the top! I still attract younger women late twenties but in my case im 40 and old enough for none build up not to be such a problem …I hope
Ok being a really hot 40 year old (snort ) I agree with Toil. I am wondering though is your Androstenone product the only one your wearing? If you add the right amount of socials like Instant Openness or Instant Honesty this should help with the younger set. Shine which I consider more calming as well as social (because happy people feel calm and content) will help as well.
Your gonna attract old ladies as well as young ones. Remember you dont have to react. Just take it as a compliment and a boost of confidence.
Remember also if a Hot old lady hits on you and she is holding a bottle of syrup that would be me so be nice and say hello.
BWAHAHAHA… I’m 51 and the girls keep on getting younger… latest one is 26… tee hee… … at first she had adjustments to make… then she put 2 and 2 together and saw what a loser her “supercool” rapper whiteguy boyfriend really is… it’s hilarious when youguns are so reflexively horrified buy older people’s passions, like they’re filled with tumors and bleak decay… ooooooo ick… how DISGUSTING ! They eventually chill out, then they discover layers of relating, such as quality and texture of conversation, nuances of eros they never imagined, and… then they go back to their dorky social milieu… girly girl is now having her moment of reverse culture shock… she’s starting to see her crowd through MY eyes... … this is in itself something of a whack upside the head… because she never in 1000 years dreamed that she could see her situation, meaning the people who formed her worldview and sense of reality, from a radically different perspective… a perspective where that which once appeared brilliant and liberating now seems terribly cramped, almost crippling in its smallness… all thanks to evil pheromones !
Toil: That’s some new information about Ammo and A314 that I haven’t heard about, but still good to know. I’ll take your advice and avoid that type of application in the future. I definitely avoid using -none based products on my hair. I’m even concerned about -nols (Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, etc) as I heard from one of the forum members that -nols turn into -none as time passes and when reacting with bacterias.
Tisha: I would not mind if I ran into you and you start hitting on me . I got mad respect for you as well. It’s just that these hits usually take place at my workplace where they recently started to act in boarderline appropriate while I have to maintain my professionalism. I mean most of them are my superiors so I can use that as my advantage… but I’m not desperate to get a promotion at this point . I do try to buffer my -none based products with friendly ones. These are some of my favorite work mixes (or at least they were ):
A314 2 drops on the wrist with cover scent
2 sprays of 4x IH back of the neck and hair
2 sprays of Instant Female Magic on each side of neck
1 spray of 2x IS front neck
2 sprays of Ammo each side of neck
2 sprays of 4x IH back of the neck and hair
1 spray of 2x IS front neck
30mcg of p79 around neck
30mcg of p74 wrist and front neck
I finally paid heed to all the people recommending Nioxin or LEF shampoo for removing phero traces about six months back. Never had any real buildup problem since. Those things are magic.
I use Nioxin or LEF shampoo like a body wash, leave on for few minutes and then apply another regular body wash (those 5 dollar body wash found in stores, they last a long time too, all of them are fine, soap is no good and I had terrible buildup problems earlier before I started this routine).
You will feel pherofree! Initially you might not notice much but gradually you will start to see much more stability and predictability in your phero testings. That’s when you will know it is working. Try it. They are not expenisve at all and last a long time. Just remember to use warm/hot water to shower.
Tater doesnt mind hits from women of any age. Women like a guy who women like. Women older than your age range tend to live vicariously through those who are in your age range, which lends some approval and encouragement.
Even at Starbucks, my best hits happen when i already have a few women by my side. Thats when newcomers just want to find out whats going on. I wonder if thats how harems get started. Women seem to enjoy the camaraderie of being together and around me when ive really got it all working. The normally shy women tend to start flirting in pairs, even being very touchy-feely with each other. Hmmm…
nioxin products are the best, you can use them head to toe…The are very helpful if you have hard water and you want to get that big bubbly lather back when using shampoo also… It is the ultimate clean
Oh Tisha…What am I going to do to you…I mean..with you
Eslite: All your mixes look pretty good. I’d cut down your ammo to 1 spray though. 2 could be to much for work, or to much in general. You don’t want to OD at work.
Come on, Eslite! Didn’t you know!? For the more mature women of today, it’s that young blood that makes them feel all young, youthful, and beautiful. I listen to the young studs at my gym talk about all the older ladies chasing them, some they’ve slept with and told alllllll their friends. Makes them feel like “DA MAN!”
Tis the wave of the future … I GUESS? :o
Still, it’s okay if you decide not to be a BOY TOY … it’s your choice.
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Come on, Eslite! Didn’t you know!? For the more mature women of today, it’s that young blood that makes them feel all young, youthful, and beautiful. I listen to the young studs at my gym talk about all the older ladies chasing them, some they’ve slept with and told alllllll their friends. Makes them feel like “DA MAN!”
“May be true but it works both ways. I see alot of older men going for the young girls for the same reason.”
This is correcto, B U T … you’re find money plays a major role in the OLD MAN’s script, and pride in the OLD WOMAN’s.
Anywho, whatever makes people happy.
Was just trying to let the young fella know that it may not be the pheromones that’s attracting the elderly.
I’m aware of this … I chuck “money” in there for the older man with the young lady ONLY. As with everything else on this big round ball, there are always the exceptions.
HELP! GRANNIES WANT TO RAPE ME! Some older women age gracefully like wine and have a demijohn full of sexual knowledge. Sometimes younger gals just finding you attractive when you’re moneless isn’t so strange at all.
Could be pure coincidence. The more none the more appealing you are to older women. Which is why I enjoy real tiny doses. There so many factors there is enough room for speculation. Just chalk it up. Remove all none build up and start over with a clean slate.
). She struck a conversation with me and showing various IOIs. Funny thing is I was “phero-naked.” This was the most recent phenomena, but similar situations took place recently when I was not using pheros or at least the ones without -none.
) I agree with Toil. I am wondering though is your Androstenone product the only one your wearing? If you add the right amount of socials like 
BWAHAHAHA… I’m 51 and the girls keep on getting younger… latest one is 26… tee hee… 
… this is in itself something of a whack upside the head… because she never in 1000 years dreamed that she could see her situation, meaning the people who formed her worldview and sense of reality, from a radically different perspective… a perspective where that which once appeared brilliant and liberating now seems terribly cramped, almost crippling in its smallness… all thanks to evil pheromones !
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