Hey!
I need help getting rid of that last bit of weight around your belly. I’m already working out, and all, and i’ve seen great results, but i’ve got this last piece of the puzzle to get through.
Does anyone have any ideas? Any supplements that anyone’s tried that have worked?
Much Appreciated.
Max
Cocaine and cigarettes 
K
And if you’re not into Nicotine and Class A drugs, try CLA. Works well if your lifting weights otherwise I’d give it a miss.
I agree with Rattlesnake that CLA is worth looking into, but I’d like to add that it’s not only effective when weight lifting. CLA has been studied a lot in clinical trials & has been shown to have a lot of health benefits. CLA works well with many forms of excercise…anything that burns calories really, but it’s even more effective with muscle toning/building forms of exercise. It reduces body fat, but especially abdominal fat.
Have a look at these if you’re interested;
Thom E, Wadstein J, Gudmundsen O. (Sep-Oct 2001). “Conjugated linoleic acid reduces body fat in healthy exercising humans”. The Journal of International Medical Research 29 (5): 392–396
Blankson H, Stakkestad JA, Fagertun H, Thom E, Wadstein J, Gudmundsen O. (01 December 2000). “Conjugated linoleic acid reduces body fat mass in overweight and obese humans”. Journal of Nutrition 130 (12): 2943–2948
Isn’t that Tonalin? I think I have some, I was going to start taking it again but i forgot what the best dosage was.
Yes it is 
Tonalin is the one that’s been found to be most effective in trials & the one which is the most consistant quality wise.
"A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study, published in the December 2000 issue of the Journal of Nutrition found that CLA reduces fat and preserves muscle tissue. According to the research project manager, an average reduction of six pounds of body fat was found in the group that took CLA, compared to a placebo group. The study found that approximately 3.4 grams of CLA per day is the level needed to obtain the beneficial effects of CLA on body fat.
Experts recommend that you use a patented name brand, as some brands have inconsistent or insufficient amounts of CLA contained in them. The brand used in testing was “Tonalin” brand CLA, which comes in 1000 mg capsules. To obtain the level determined to be effective in the testing – 3.4 g, or 3400 mg, per day – you would need to take 4 of these capsules a day, with meals."
Okay, nice…
So four of them a day…My trouble is I’m best at just taking things all at once, once a day, because I don’t always remember a second time. And the “with food” part…welll…hopefully the pills and food that ends up in me will meet up somewhere during their travels
If it says take with food then take WITH food SK…not 1hr before or after You increase the uptake of the drug if you take it with food because blood flow to the gut is increased when we eat (that’s why you feel tired after eating, less blood flow to the brain). If you have more blood flow you get more uptake of the drug into the circulation & hence better effect. If you take drugs on an empty stomach they are absorbed slower & therefore more is broken down & metabolized by the acid & enzymes in your gut…net effect is less drug to do it’s work systemically 
OK, geek will shut up now 
NOOO don’t shut up!! Thats great to know!!
It’s basically the reason most meds say to take them with food, to ensure you get the intended therapeutic effect…it also reduces the risk of nausea
The only ones that are advised to take on an empty stomach are those that where certain foods affect absorbtion of the drug etc
Ooops then I better hurry up and take things, because I ate some toast maybe an hour ago, better hurry while some is still hopefully hanging out in my stomach…
What if I take the pill RIGHT before I start eating, like minutes…
Thats cool, right?
I’m sure that should be fine. Though I take mine right after, so the pill has something to land in 
Xiphoid or Rattlesnake, I was under the impression that man made CLAs in supplements fell into the trans fatty acid catagory and should be avoided. Natural CLAs in cheese, butter, and grassfed beef are good in moderate amounts. Do you have any info about this?
I’m not sure but I think that’s what the researchers are alluding to when they talk about making sure you buy the well known (and more expensive) brands like Tonalin…those products have quality control for their ingredients and are consistent with type of contents and concentration etc.
I’ll see if I can get a hold of any more recent research articles for you Renny
Yeah, that’s fine Take your pills just before you start eating, whilst you are eating or as your dessert…either way they’ll end up in your stomach when the food is going in
NO, you have to take the food and pills AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, so they both hit your stomach at the same time. This is very important, because otherwise the effects of the food and the pills will cancel each other out and you’ll have to start all over again. Its a little tricky, and does take some practice but I’m confident you can do it!!
Oh the wonderful world of sarcasm…
How I love thee.
some cause unwanted side effects such as constipation or the opposite when taken without food, so take your pills with a glass of milk if you forget, that should offer enough buffer between your stomach acid and the pills.
Fruits or crackers work well also.
as for loosing weight,
eat less, chew slower and take a pause between bites.
make sure you eat a minimum of 1000 calories a day when dieting, to avoid rebound weight gain.
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