Hey all,
So I’ve had a good two weeks running with A314 Royale. I’m liking it more with every passing day, but I’d also like some help crafting a fallout mix. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can use/ should buy?
The mones I currently have at my disposal are as follows:
A314 Royale
IS (4x strength)
IO
IH
TUTH
Ammo (Heavy)
CTTM
TAC
TAA
MX297
MX353
p79
p80
Thanks in advance for the advice. I’ve been using mones for years now, and I’d like to fine tune the skill.
I have a feeling that Royale might just be a bit of a fallout monster all by itself - Although I’ve not got a handle on it fully yet, it does demonstrate some of the qualities of older Revs that were very strongly emotionally engaging.
However, before starting with a fallout mix - have a good think about it. Do you really want someone to develop that amount of interest in you and are you prepared to have them still involved and even dogging your steps some months or even years down the line? Fallout can be pretty hard to break if things don’t work-out or the subject proves unsuitable in other ways.
Another important thing to remember is that fallout takes time to develop, sometimes a very long time, so its no quick fix solution - you need to be in a position to be wearing the same base mix around them for the foreseeable future. Also, fallout needs regular exposure/withdrawal cycles to encourage it to develop to its fullest extent - so you need to be in a position to manage the subject’s access to you and be strong enough to control your desire to be around them, strictly limit exposure interaction and even step back completely from them for sometimes quite long periods to help the effects set-in - in effect, giver her time and space to miss you!
Also, some info on you/your subject/s would help. Ages, basic personalities, outlook, the sort of environments you have to use pheros and any existing positive/negative responses to individual products can all help guide you. Some base mixes can be difficult around younger/less mature women, whilst others (notably A314-based) suit more mature/mature-outlook women to a tee.
Also read, read and read - there are several excellent fallout threads here already, so knowing them will save us going over a lot of the basics time and time again.
Then test throughly, individually and in combination - A key aspect of fallout mixes is knowing your basic dose range and how the individual molecules work on you. That way you can craft subtle base mixes suitable for long-term use in a wide variety of situations and how to steer them to your advantage in more specific moments.
Lastly, also remember that fallout mixes can seem highly unproductive to begin with - it is in their very nature that they get subtly under someone’s skin over a prolonged period.
From that list of pheros, I would see the following as primaries:
A314
IH
IS
As secondaries, depending on situation:
TUTH
Ammo (be wary)
MX353
And as steering, depending on mood/situation
TAC
TAA (What dose?)
P79 (be very careful with this as it can go either way in mixes)
And I would strongly avoid using the following in any A314-based fallout mix:
IO
CTTM
MX297
Don’t know much about P80 but others will be along with more suggestions.
Depending on what you have to say about yourself/subjects, I’d also suggest you consider getting some P74 as a primary (@7.5-10mcg) plus P83 and P96 (10-12.5mcg) as steering. They all have useful roles. 
Good advise above. The classic fall out mix you can create from your stash is a314, shine and IH. my best fall out molecule is p96. Add that and watch the girl melt into a puddle of her own juices. Limiting your own exposure to the target and getting them to initiate is what you want. If your grooming her up patience and an air of content will go far.. It is easy enough to dispose of a fall out through switching up your sig and changing your behaviour towards them. I did it recently, dropped the a314 + p96, told her things were casual, went a meeting without being cuddly/romantic and just f***ed her like an animal… Now its just fizzled out. Obviously you need to display attractive behaviour around them so the a314 reponse can be justified in their own head and stay imprinted once the pheros are removed. I’m no expert but mobo has told you most of what you need to know… Depending on your age I would be careful with androstenone in the mix. I have found it to be best with people who are very comfortable with you and have already persued you for sex. With someone you are trying to groom you can come across as just another horny male..
If its recent, don’t bank on her giving-up so easy just yet. After a while, reintroducing yourself to a developed fallout can cause it to hit again, hard, sometimes very hard - and it keeps-on coming back, even months apart!
Mobo, I have a question about this exposure/withdrawal cycle:
My girlfriend, who have been exposed first to a series of A314b spray + IG and as of late NA + A1 over several months/repeated exposures (also during sex), seems to be hit quite hard WHEN I’M WITH HER. In person she tells me how much she’s missed me and that she loves me and the touching and kisses from her are very affectionate and passionate.
But when I ‘withdraw’ and don’t initiate contact for a while there’s ZERO contact from her. Nothing.
Do you have any idea what’s going on here? How should I react to her no-contact? My instinct is to simply refuse to be the one who initiates constantly since that IS very needy behavior but I would think that this shouldn’t even be a problem with a fall-out developing..?
This is one you need judge carefully, depending on the individual woman. Some will respond to you to keeping a bit of contact going but others do thrive on no or next to no contact.
The main thing is that you never become predictable or be too easy or quick to contact/respond and never keep any contact going-on longer than you need to. Women tend to be turned-on by a challenge and the yearning thing will do a lot for your attractiveness to a developing fallout plus keeping-up the appearance of being busy/active/interesting/having options in life all contributes to her impression of you as a well-rounded man worthy of her affection.
Initiating - Yes it is best to avoid being the one who always initiates but IME it is ok to do so occasionally. Just don’t do so with no reason, for idle chat or to send funnies etc - that way you help keep her mind on you in all the right ways - And of course if she’s responding positively/attractively to you or getting a bit hot and bothered, then you do reward that with a bit more attention but similarly, if she’s just wanting to waste time, you always have something more important/better to be doing - RIGHT NOW!
With a developed fallout, it is IME the case that after missing you for a while, the sig will hit harder and more obviously each time you reintroduce it. I’m in a similar position with one of my fallouts - I give her very little attention, sometimes for prolonged periods but I can be pretty certain that when I do see her/get in touch, she will immediately drop everything for me (literally and metaphorically!). Another one works away a lot but whenever she’s back in the area - it all rapidly heats-up
I think I may have underestimated the effect mobo. She’s coming back! í ˝í¸Ľ
To expand on this further, here’s how I handled Buisnesswoman fallout last week.
I’ve left her for about six weeks, despite agreeing to see her within the week last time I was out with her. This is not unusual behaviour for dealing with her - I don’t stand her-up, I simply don’t get back in touch.
Anway, Sunday before last she started texting me and on the Monday, she let me know she was back from her place in the country and wanted to meet-up.
So I let her wait for the best part of another week and then texted back, fairly late, saying “Sorry, last week went like a blur at work and I was simply beat at nght. Going to be out early the day after tomorrow if yo uwant to get together”
Not long into the next morning, she’s back-on firming things-up. So I shut-up till we are due to meet and she’s slightly late - about fifteen minutes.
So we move from the coffeeshop we met-in to a very small, cosy/intimate bar and get down to chatting away - and once again, she’s showing me places to rent, not far from her country abode.
I’m wearing a different fallout mix this time one I tried a long time ago but didn’t follow-up with after my initial togos were finished - Normally with her its A314 and either A1, IH/P74 or P96/86 and a sexual. This time the new mix withA314 Royale seems to be finding its mark very quickly and she’s chattering away in a free, uninhibited and laid-back way and throwing-out IOIs by the dozen. Never mind the IOIs actually, she’s more or less crawled into my lap!
Two hours of this and she more or less dragged me back to her’s for the rest of the evening. My sore bits are still a bit sore but after a response like that, I’m certainly going to be meeting-up with her again on Saturday night - but in the meantime next to no contact. I’ve let her know already that I’m busy/late/unavailable to her every night till then, although I’m only really busy on two of those nights.
Wow Mobo! Good stuff!
I agree with all of it. Even the part about the new version of A314. I actually think it will create fall out by itself. I’ve been testing p96 again and I’m noticing some similarities in behavior between the new A314 and Rone buffered with p96. This would explain the comradarie from the A314 that I was getting instead of intimidation.
I also agree that p79 is finicky. But it’s my second favorite putative. I think it’s better for sexual mixes. Doesn’t work as well when women are on their cycle. Can actually create some issues.
P96 does seem to create lasting memories after a while. Women seem to spend time thinking about you. The only other molecule I know that creates that effect is A1.
I would think that IH and A314 would be great for a fallout.
Yes - I many keep P79 for social sexual mixes. Which with something happy/friendly as well as sexual tends to keep it steered in a positive direction.
Its when the mix is more serious/overtly sexual that it can go either way.
Yes - P96, A1, and IH/P74 are three with major bonding properties but IH is a very critical component of many fallout mixes - esp around younger women or those who may not do so well with A314. The other combo I’m looking at just now is also promising but so far its mainly been exposed to developed fallouts, I’ve yet to have one develop on it.
Added 30mcg P103 and 2 sprays 2x TUTH to my new mix and met-up with fallout for a quick coffee after work.
That was six hours ago and we didn’t take very long over the coffee. Very uninhibited/physical and slightly aggressive sex.
I’m rewarding this by going to a show with her next week - She was more or less begging me to go at the beginning of the night but I hummed and ho’d and was generally not very positive - till I got home and texted back that i’d checked my diary and it was all-go.
I’m wondering what do you do with all your fall outs mobo? Do you keep all the best shags as f*** buddys or or are you just taking royal pickings until you find your one? Sorry if its a personal question but you give the image of a veteran Casanova and i would like to know what your objective with women is.. You seem like you must be persuing more than sex as surely by your age and pheromone experience you must have enough conquests/sex addicts to call upon. Dont tell me your a hopeless romantic.
You make it sound like I have a small army of them! :o
Some have moved-on by themselves, for various reasons - others I’ve stepped back from after they disqualified themselves in other ways. One current fallout works away for periods of anything up to months at a time, so she effectively regulates herself.
I’m anything but a veteran Cassanova - I’ve made every love/sex/relationship mistake in the book and then some over the years - And TBH, despite everything there is probably more of the hopeless romantic in me than I’d care to admit - although I do keep him in-check. I’ve been through two major break-ups which left me in pretty bad places for long periods of time - which helps keep any wilder romantic inclinations in perspective!
The dust from the last one is not really that long settled either. It was only towards the end of that relationship that I became seriously interested in pheros and they have helped me get back on my feet a lot quicker than I thought possible.
No, for now I enjoy aspects of a more meaningful relationship with a handful of women but with the proviso that for the moment I’m not in a position to to commit to a solid LTR with any one. The emotional engagement/status of fallout mixes help keep that position tenable - and until/if I feel ready to go into a LTR again, that is how it stays.
Mobo, I GOTTA ask:
What’s the longest you have kept a fallout ‘suspended’ in mid air like this?
(I had an intense romance with a girl in Brazil 10 years ago that lasted about a week and then continued via chat and video-messaging for another year maybe.. She still contacts me off and on and I have no doubt in my mind that she’s never really gotten over me. This was way before I knew anything about pheromones and fallout!)
The main two - at the moment are around four years and three years respectively.
A third at just over two years and there are a couple of older fallouts who rear their heads occasionally but I’m not maintaining ant active interest/exposure as far as they are concerned.
Thank you, that’s quite a while! Very helpful info, actually 
I suppose my surgery just over two years ago was a kind of full-stop for activities with some of my original fallouts - I was out of action/touch for so-long that it seemed better to step back from them and continue with the newer-developed ones.
It also coincided with my decision to finally end all forms of social contact with my ex - Neither of us were going to get our lives together properly if we remained in the same social orbit, it was going to be too fraught and as pheros had helped me find new opportunities, I was happy enough to step-out altogether.
Thanks for the detailed response. I think I feel quite similarly at the moment. I’m starting to see how you can still enjoy most of the best parts of a relationship with more than one woman without the commitment that goes with it. The only problem is making sure you are not leading someone on if you know you dont intend on committing to that person.