[Help] Newbies With Pheromones

Hi, I’m Checkmate, the loser guy again (if some of you still remember me). I have read many thread on this forum, but I need some advice and assistances

For the reintroduction, I live in Canada, Montreal, average tempature is arround 0 degree. For the full one, please check my introduction here

This is I got so far Ammo, Instant Shine (V1 and V1.1 anyone know what’s new in V1.1?), A314, Instant Honesty and Instant Openness.
(The reason I got both V1 and V1.1 for Instant Shine because mark-in-dallas advised me to wear it always, I bought two and notice it’s not the same version)

The first day I test my pheromones,there is 2 period, morning and evening. I’ll start with morning first.

9PM: In the morning before going to university, I use 2 spray of Ammo on the wrist (since the smell isn’t good to me), and 2 spray of Instant Shine on neck and chest.

Without very limited layer of clothes (oh yes, a tshirt only!), I went to the metro station, and through the class. I notice that there is no (significant) effection at all with the strangers. And just little (little, one eye contact, sure it worth to point out) with one girl that sit one row in front of me. (There was 3 of them in that front row)

Personally, 2 sprays of instant shine does not… effect me too much to make up my minds, or so.

5PM Alright, I decided to use more this time:

  • 4 shots of Ammo: 1 on the wrist (Since in the morning, it has 2 in there already) 2 on the chest, and 1 behind the neck/hair.

  • 2 more sprays of Instant Shine, directly on face and neck (for direct effect)

  • 2 sprays of Instant Openess below the elbow

  • 1 spray of Instant Honesty on the wrist, slightly next to the Ammo.

And the same route, I go to the metro stations, and university. Same Result: There is no significant effect on strangers (to be noticed). And in university, there is minimal effect (or I’m not sure if it is because she’s friendly) when I tried to talk to total strange that in the class, although, she’s smiling but again not much. (I does make the little conversation funny, don’t worry, in all situations I’m well in conversation & engagement, while my mind is not happy, I can fake it this way or that way!)

In the end, there is no significant effect using pheromones. (I think there is a ‘maginal’ effect with Instant Shine, but it was not enough I guess, so I’ll try 4 sprays straight with Instant Shine next time)

I’m aware of the OD, which not this case since no body angry with me (my friend, for example), and I confirm there is no ghost effect.

I’m also know that layer of clothes does block pheromones, I wear only a (summer) tshirt, without any coat (during in metro or the class) or sweater.

It could be my skin does not work well with those pheromones (some thread on this forum mentioning that)

Please advise me what I should do, and what I should not.

Thank you very very much!

Did you use the products one at a time by themselves to figure out your optimum dose and what each product can do for you? This also gives the pheromones time to mesh with your personal pheromone sig.

Did you start with 1 spray as suggested in the forum and work up with that one product till you found you optimal dosage ? (this takes about 4 to 5 days with each product)

You seem to be wearing way to much in my opinion and although you believe that your not ODing I think you are. OD is not just aggressive behavoir or ghost effect. Its the product just not working, things remaining the same. Products like shine and Instant Openness have less if any OD effect then Androstenone products.

This is what I suggest. Take a shower and get the pheromones off. Wait a few days then begin again starting with only one product. Follow these guide lines. How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01

Tisha

This is not magic from narnia …You are going to have to make them work. try and become the pheromone. start with less till you find your signature vibe. try it in more social places…the classroom will need less..plus everyone is tired and bored and into study. you are gonna have to become more social, step it up one notch, outside of the classroom. get out of your comfort level sometimes. winter is also kicking my arse with frostbite.

I admitted that I did rush things, but I do start with slow amount (2 sprays, not one)

But I think it takes time to mesh with my personal sig, but, does that, in anyway, destroy my body “nature” pheromones?

I have rubbed off all pheromones on my body (use special chemical solution), and didn’t use anything since Friday. I’ll test again on Monday, with only the Ammo.

Or what product you’re recommend me to go with first?

chadwick, I know this is not magic in anyway. But which social places do you recommend me to run it?

No it only alters your natural mone sig when your actively using it. It dosnt change the way you make natural mones in your body.

I would start with Instant shine and use that for about a week at different levels of dosage.

Look for subtle reactions, Sometimes its hard and you dont realize its working until you encounter a certain situation. Like for me with instant shine it made me feel very upbeat but the “holy crap this works” moment was when I wore it around my cronically cranky boss. He is totally changed everytime he is exposed to it. Its consistant.

Hang in there you will get it :wink:

Tisha

Hello Checkmate,
first of all, Thank You for your report, it’s always worth to know the experinces of other people. So, again, Thank You.
I’m not a really long-time Phero user, but I already had some testing done. On the beginning, I had your same feelings. Something like “Hmmm… I wore this and that and nothing happened…”. If you want to have best results, do as Tisha wrote, and start testing each of them by themselves. I know it could sound “boring”, at least, when I started I wished ot mix anything and have effects from everything. But it’s very important you first find you “sweet spot” (the dosage that suits to you), so you can have the best effects from them all. I just tell this, because on the beginning I did many kitchen-sink-mixes… To see all my tests with both results and failures, just check the tests at the link in my signature.

See ya

Franz

I did, as soon as I’m done my final exam, will report
Thank tisha23 very much for your helpful advice.

Thanks runnerxvr, your report is really good, keep it up!