Hey everyone, my name is Cameron A. im 18 5’5 (lol, little guy) im from Illinois and live in a small town that you’ve never heard of. I work out on a regular basis to stay in shape for the Illinois Army National Guard but even with my body it the best shape as I see it I still seem to have a problem with women…its not that I cant attract them its just that the attention that im getting isnt exactly what it should be…well anyway I thought that maybe some of you fine peeps could point me in the right direction on this topic: Pheromones and you. I would like some feed back on any experience with products that you may have tried and are willing to share about. And honestly you shouldn’t worry about what you say im young but hehe Ive been around the block a few times…and then the neighbors block..
So be honest with me and Im always willing to make new friends…Thx!
Hi ther Onichan… welcome to the mone forum! Small town, Illinois, eh? I was working staying in Lombard when I had to work in Chicago…
Well, for getting some ‘extra’ attention, well, there would be AMMO. It gives me a comfortable to be in my own skin feeling. Others have an attraction to being in my presence. It’s good to have the AMMO experience! 
Also, when you say your not getting the attention, what it should be… what are your expectations and what attention ARE you getting?
I’d also suggest Instant Shine for my smile in a bottle effect. Others say I have a youthful glow or vigor about me. This and others being in there comfort zone around me is my experience with Instant Shine. I did my sweet spot testing with Instant Shine… on my sig below, Amazing in a Bottle. However, as you are starting out, you’d be well advised to read up Steve O’s Intro to Mones, also on my sig below to get the most out of the mones you DO get!
Cheers!
Hi and welcome Onichan 
there’s no point in lying about results here. Too many people playin’ with the same toys! No-ones gonna bother with lying - I PERSONALLY believe. Read the journals, both genders. A braintrust of experimentation with shared results. Read this too:
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph…html#post66537
A LOT of the work’s been done, documented, and shared on the forum. Search by topic or member. Post in the mens journal section and peeps be by to offer assistance. Enjoy and make sure you use your power for goodness and not badness. I love Max. 
Welcome Onichan125,
While I agree that AMMO is the product for you, you may want to try IG. IG will give you that suave vibe that you might be missing.
I appreciate the suggestion but is AMMO used as an alpha male kinda thing or is it to make people at ease? I Would love a list of the different MONES and what they are best used for, and I have already checked out the book for beginners so I have a few ideas. And I actually live in Watseka, If you know where that is.
Well thank you, I appriciate your suggestion and care. Ill look around and see what I wanna do. Thank YOU
Its not so much as what the products do, but more along the lines of what are you looking to accomplish with mones . When you wrote:
what exactly did you mean?
There’s a big difference in product selection if the attention is stand-offish because of your physical demeanor is intimidating from someone who is shy around you. A guy who is in top shape is producing lots of androsteNONE already so suggesting Ammo might actually push away women even more. Even though Ammo is pretty well buffered, any extra amount of NONE for a guy who already might be producing enough to push women away is a not the direction you’d want to take. It may or may not be, but from the vagueness of your post I cannot offer more sound advice.
NONE is a sexually aggressive molecule, but products like Ishine says you have a strong sense of well being and are confident. While IO says you are fun loving, easy to talk to. IH says you are BF material, are deep honest and trustworthy.
So it really depends on you and what you are looking to accomplish. If you could define a bit better what the situation that is holding you back from having better interactions with women, I can offer some advice based on your experiences rather than generalities that may or may not work for you.
Well I suppose your right these are a bit vague, this is my first forum and I feel weird opening up online… oh well. To tell you my problem I need to tell you a short story of the situation.
Basicly I dated this woman for a short time (about 4 years ago) before she became bored with the relationship and decided to leave me for someone else, I was not at all in shape was 5’ even and im sure wasnt producing the mones that i am now. So all of a sudden she wants do give us another shot (keep in mind this is 4 years and 5 inches later). So I decided that it had been long enough and I may as well give her another shot.
So what i am trying to get at is that I want more attention from her, and by that I mean I want to keep her attention on me and off other guys(that was the problem before). So if this helped ur diagnosis doc then let me know.
THX
-Onichan
ps. I wanna buy but how do i get the 25 dollar cirt.?
Well that has nothing to do with pheromones and everything to do with you. I’m going to be blunt, but only because I want to see you succeed. From what I got from all this is this girl is using you and unfortunately you are allowing her to. She was bored but now that you changed your life, instead of you reaping the benefits you’ve allowed her to be the prize. You worked your ass off to get where you are I’m figuring and before you weren’t good enough for her, but now you are. That is you are until the next best thing comes along and she gets bored with you again. Sorry but she sounds like a real shitty human being, but ask yourself where does that leave you?
You are so much better than this person man. Why would you put yourself through it again. Sounds to me you need some ALPHA confidence which would be A314. Of course though by recommending that I am recommending you to also leave this person which will happen when you finally realize that you are the prize. Get yourself some A314 (the full oil version) and some TUTH and the ladies will be all around you.
Start building your confidence guy. I’m not looking to be an ass here, just telling it as it is all to evident to see. You’ve put her on a pedestal before yourself. If you really don’t know how anyone can tell that than just re-read your own words.
She left you to cheat. She is a loser of a human being.
So you’re blaming yourself for her bad behavior? She cheated while in a relationship with you. She had the opportunity to not date a guy who was not at all in shape, but she chose to and then chose to cheat. I’m sorry how exactly is that your fault?
So she got bored being a scumbag to someone else and decided its a perfect opportunity to cheat on them too. How far can she take it this time? How much money and stuff can she get you to spend on her before she gets bored again?
You didn’t decide my friend, she decided that she wants you to spend money on her again. Personally it wouldn’t surprise me if all the while she will be cheating on you.
You already know in your heart that she is going to cheat on you but to attempt to validate yourself, rather than live for yourself, to make your life better you are supplicating to her.
I really wish you the best of luck and realize while you will probably be upset, its for your own good dude. Man up!
TUTH and A314.
Mickaelia will stop by and let you know she is issuing the gc. It usually happens within a day of your intro. I’m sure she will be around soon to let you know and welcome you. Best of luck to you my friend.
…Wow, man thats a lot to take in.. I think that your right though..Horribly blunt but right. I dont need her. I am who ive always been and she is too. URG.. thats irritating as crap!.. well I suppose I wasn’t so interested in her as much as the idea that someone could change… but I guess I couldn’t help but hide the obvious facts from myself.. Thank you, for the compassion, the advice, and the suggestions.
Best regards
-Onichan
ps. I took your advise and ordered the TUTH and A314, If you have any advise in useage and doseage let me know…its in the mail and im psyched!
Dude you definitely shouldn’t be feeling bad at all, in fact you should be happy and excited to be figuring this all out now. Im a 26 yr old super n00b at mones right now but I was in the exact same situation when I was your age (really wasn’t all that long ago lol) its great and wonderful to put a woman on a pedestal, but only if she truly deserves it and does the Same for you. I know it seems like she might be your best option if you don’t have anyone else circling around you but you deserve better. Hopefully mones can help both of us get over the lil speed bumps that slow us down. Steve gave you some amazing, albeit blunt, info and honestly the whole time I was reading his post I felt like he was talking directly to the person I used to be. It was actually a nice little gut check for myself, and hopefully Steve reads this so he knows how appreciative and thankful I truly am.
Im still a little skeptical about the whole mone idea but im 100% percent ready to take the plunge, hopefully ill be able to place my order later today, I got my gift certificate already and planned on ordering a few different “to go” containers to sample some different things, might be an idea you want to consider, getting one each of ammo, instant shine, and turn up the heat, although im strongly considering the instant honesty as well, from what i’ve read its well worth it. I figure soon as I see any positive results my next check’ll be getting me some alpha
Well I hope you have much better luck in the future and that we both live much better lives going forward, take care my friend, hope to see you around here often
@ r22 - LOL… I like that… I’m a… super n00b!!!
Hey, I’m glad you got that straight talk from Steve… we all need to be told how things are… and if we disagree, then, speak up!
Welcome to PheroTalk!!!
Just want to add my thanx to Steve. Blunt advice is the best advice. No dressing up to confuse the issue. I happen to agree with him, as well. From a non-game playing fem perspective - she’s a bitch and now is bored with having to put effort in and is coming back to ‘familiar territory’. She knows ‘how to handle you’ and has the benefit of nights filled if nothing else is on offer. Most times ex’s are ex for a good reason.
A good thing to keep in mind when thinking about re-visiting past relationships: What’s the first thing you remember about the relationship? That she cheated? That she was disparaging to you? That you felt you could’t ‘win’? You said you’re both the same people - so why would it work out any differently?
She’s now a marker in your past - whenever you meet someone who reminds you of her; not necessarily physically - but personality, temperament, attitudes - you get the picture; think twice before getting involved.
Apologies for the excessively long sentence above.
Welcome to pherotalk Onichan!
This thread was a pretty huge dose of reality given to you when you least expected it but on time as nothing is coincidence in my book.
I am glad we could be some stepping stone to pointing you in the right direction and removing a demon or two from your life.
Good luck man!
Your gc was issued! 
Its blunt because I have been there unfortunately. My friends “tried” to tell me but what they should have done is smacked me upside the head. Its a lot less painful than having to go through what I did. Blunt is the best chance someone will listen. I really hope you take it to heart my friend. Life is full of fun.