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Hey,

Been researching this kinda stuff for a while, this seems like the best source of information I can find. It’s always great to see what real people have to say about things.

Thinking about ordering from androtics to try some ‘experiments’ out with work. I’m in direct sales, and people’s honesty is important for my own success, as is building rapport. Having people feel comfortable around me is really important too…a lot of failures with my job are people who have that ‘Oh shit, here’s another salesman.’ and don’t give me the time of day.

I’m great at my job, but you know when you reach a certan ‘plateau’ and want to get an edge? That’s where I am.

I’m thinking of getting Instant Shine…Instant Openness…Instant Honesty…A314…and Turn Up The Heat just for some fun in the bedroom :wink:

Any suggestions are welcome! I don’t know if I should omit one thing for another, or if two of the ones I’m looking at are so similar that getting something else would be more effective, etc etc. Instant Honesty and Instant Openness seem similar, should I switch one out for another?

Thanks, and I’m looking forward to trying some of this out,

-Brock

Oh, in case you were wondering what I do for work. It’s a family business (me and my dad’s) called New Wave Coolers. We set up a high end filter system under a sink, and run a 1/4" line to a very stylish water cooler with a ‘cap’ on it instead of a plastic jug. I’m the one out in the battle field getting all the sales, so it’s an important job for my family’s income.

I love it because I get to deal with new people, new environments, and new situations every day, and I have to deal with owners/managers for the decision making process to switch to my product. So far we have been very successful, but there are always those few ‘cold’ people that were great shots, but don’t want to ‘try new things’ or are afraid of change. That’s where I’m hoping to gain new business by trying this stuff out!

Also a great environmental business, we’ve eliminated the need for about 55,000 big plastic jugs being used yearly, and only 10% of those ever get recycled, and Canada has actually become the first nation to label the plastic they use for those jugs (#7), as dangerous because they leech out a chemical called Bisphenol A which mimics estrogen and causes lots of problems not only in people, but in wild fish and amphibian populations (makes them all female).

So I like to think I’m making a huge difference, and hope these pheromones can help me in my crusade.

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Hi Brock,

welcome to the forum!

yeah - there really is tons of information here and awesome members…

The products you want to get are all useful for your intended purpose, but if you tell us a bit more about your personality and specific situations you want to use the pheromones we can help you decide which ones are the best for your situation…

from what you shared with us so far i would say: without a doubt you have to try A314, Honesty and Shine…
A314 for trust + respect
Honesty for a feeling of connection
Shine to make people feel good

have fun here
magnum

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Welcome to Pherotalk! I just got started here a few weeks ago, similar to the way you have: I was doing some research and I wanted to know if these really worked, and figured this was the best place to come. As you probably read, they give you a $25 gift certificate to try them out before you really need to commit to buying anything. This really enticed me into buying.

Now, I recently got my first shipment of pheromones from the store, with what they’re supposed to do:
Instant Openness - increase quantity of conversation
Instant Honesty - increase quality of conversation
Instant Shine- Make you/others feel more confident, happy

Now, I haven’t gotten into true experimentation yet, but I’m seeing subtle changes in people that I haven’t noticed before. I think it’s very much a “see it to believe it” type of thing. The three I listed are all “social” pheromones, meant for causal conversation and hanging out, nothing too serious, as far as I could understand from the descriptions.

I was looking into getting A314, but I wanted to start smaller, until I convinced myself that they worked. I got 3 To-Go bottles, which is allowing me to do much more sampling than one large one. I suggest you do the same.

Let us know how it all turns out for you, and don’t be afraid to ask questions!

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Thanks for the lightning quick replies, wow. I’m glad to see how active this forum is and it won’t take long to figure out what I should use!

Magnum, Most of the people I deal with are women, usually 30+. I deal with a lot of secretaries, and a lot of managers these days are women, I’d say more than 75% of the people I deal with are women aged 30-50. The rest are men aged 40-50.

The problem I have, is that being a salesman, people tend to take me too seriously… The whole thing about sales is that you don’t sell a product, you ‘sell yourself’.

People buy from people they like.

On average, I spend about 10 minutes (anywhere from 5-15), explaining the product and ‘making a friend’ and answering questions. The whole point of it is getting them to like me so they feel comfortable buying from me, it’s a major trust thing because we run water lines in their business, and though we’ve never had a leak in several years, people are skeptical.

I’m a friendly guy, good looking, and always in a positive attitude, but some people just completely close up to a salesman, and I even get some hostility and outright ‘NO’ without them hearing what I have to say.

There’s some stigma that I’m there to rob them, but really I’m helping them drink better water, save money, and help the environment. So I need them to be in an open, positive mood to get into the same vibe and feeling I have about it.

I sell a superior quality product that reduces ‘water consumption’ carbon emissions by 98%, and costs 20-50% less than what they spend currently, it really is a no-brainer, but like I said, there’s a stigma that goes along with being a salesman.

Regardless of all the benefits, some people just close up and resist change, and unfortunately, there’s not too much I can do about it with any amount of selling, friendliness, or providing information.

That’s where I’m hoping pheromones come in, and your suggestions are great, do you have any more? Since this is a business expense, I’m willing to spend a few hundred dollars here because I’m convinced that I will be making it back with the influence of these products.

ajo41992, good suggestion on using the sample ones. I deal with a few dozen people every day, so that’s a lot of situations in a few hours to see any results!

-Brock

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One other thing… I often go back to people who rejected the idea, several months later.

Based on several years of experience, I deal with a lot of women during their PMS, which doesn’t help. Is there a pheromone that would help with this?

I ask because the first time I see someone, they’re completely bitchy, moody, and sometimes even cruel. I then go back a few months later, and they’re the nicest women I ever meet!!! :open_mouth:

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ok, for PMS there is a very good product called Instant Female Magic, it is great for calming and easing women’s moods. Unfortunately its out of stock right now…

Openness and Honesty sound similar, but they are very different in my experience. Openness is more useful if for small talk and to get people open up in a more superficial level while Honesty gives people a feeling like they have known you for years and they can trust you. So i am not sure if you need Openness but you definately want to try Honesty.

A314 is the most helpful product for sales because it makes people listen to your advice and respect you but it can be a bit serious so Shine helps making people comfortable and happy with your strong A314 signature …

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That’s great advice, thanks man. Is there anything else you’d recommend?

I will replace the openness with the female magic, that sounds like it should do the trick.

Another question I have is about the strengths. How intense are the differences for 1x 2x 3x?

Many times, I am only in a situation for 5 minutes, 10 seems to be a high average now that I think about it. These people are busy running a business, so I try to take the least amount of time as I possibly can.

Is using a more potent mix more likely to give me better results in such a short time?

Many people will make their decision as fast as 1 minute. I talk to a few hundred people a month, (average 25-30 a day), and many of them need to be persuaded within one minute because they are busy with work…

I often get the ‘Ok, you have one minute’

So, will getting 2x or 4x strength be a better option for my certain situation, where I often have only 1-5 minutes to get the sale?

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i recommend you get 1x strength first to see how much sprays you need of each product for optimal effects…

2x and 4x is exactly the same as using 2 or 4 sprays of the 1x product - you can buy them when you figure out that you need that much sprays for optimal effects…

with pheromones more is not always better… it also depends on how long your targets are exposed to the pheromones and whether you use them in indoor or outdoor situations…

a duration of exposure of at least a few minutes is necessary for good results… five minutes are fine, but you won’t see good effects in one minute or less… so try to keep talking for a few minutes and try to do it indoors to get best effects…

another point is that most pheromones last around 4 hours, if you intend to use it 8 hours a day you need to reapply…
(expect A314 - this one lasts one full work day…)

I am not sure how long IFM will be out of stock… its perfect around PMS women but it can have mildly negative effects on men… i recommend you read about it on the forum before using it… but as you have a lot of female customers i recommend it anyways…

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Perfect, thanks again.

Now one more thing…I drive to different cities for this job 3 or 4 times a week. The distance ranges between one hour and two hours.

Sounds like I’d be best off applying in my car when I arrive at my destination, as I work 3-5 hours in each day in the city, and the rest of the work day is driving to and from.

My question is…if I left them in my car, would the heat of the summer sun affect the potency of the pheromones? Are they sensitive to being over-heated or relatively indestructible?

I’d probably just leave them in my car so I’d never forget them, if I can…

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Hi and welcome. Yes, heat will destroy them so don’t store them in your car. Bacteria is also bad, so keep your bottle closed and don’t introduce foreign substances.

I would suggest 2 options to help you out:

  1. Buy a togo size of what you want. It’s tiny (a little bit taller than a stick of Chapstick), but the dosage is more potent to make up for the quantity in the spray.
  2. Get a pocket atomizer (I see people recommending Sephora) and pour some of your product in there. (Note, do not mix them in the same bottle.)
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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

These are great choices for you to start with. I would suggest AMMO over TUTH at first because its more versatile but if you choose TUTH just read up on it so you know how to best use it.

If you have questions just ask. Your GC is on its way

Look forward to chatting with you in the forum

Tisha
Hostess/Guide

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Cool thanks!

I already ordered and paid before the GC though, but whatever, if this stuff works I will be buying tons of this stuff over the years.

You guys were out of A314!!! I was looking forward to that one the most. I’ll be using the GC for that as soon as it’s available I guess, and I’ll need to order some of the Instant Female Magic as well, that’s out of stock too.

Looking forward to experimenting! I’ll be sure to post all of my successful results!

Thanks again,

-Brock

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Hey brock welcome. :slight_smile:

You may try instant honesty in sales the deep sort of I’ve known you forever vibe could really help you with some of the more standoffish people.Shine is definitely a good one. I want to get A314 for my fella at some point.

Your choices seem to be pretty good over all though can’t wait to see your reports.
Arr!:cool: