Hi All,
Newbie here looking at ways to avoid being “friend zoned” by the girl I like a lot before it’s too late! 
Hello and welcome to the forum.
You have a few options but it would really help to know your age to recommend some products. Plus a little about your personality would be a big help too - outgoing, shy, friendly?
Let us know both and we are happy to help!
bosshank
I agree with bosshank,
Some more details about yourself will be essential to giving the best recommendations. Also your nationality and/or the girls nationality plays a big role also.
Hi, thanks for your replies.
A little more about me: I’m 50 / M and quite friendly and chatty. I’ve been told that I’m handsome, but no so sure myself!
I have been good friends with a girl who it about 15 years younger that me for a couple of years now. We have been friends for several years and the relationship developed into being friends with benefits during that time. I want to see if I can get this to develop more as I feel that she is going to want to start dating, but not necessarily with me and I would like to be that guy! I’m aware that my pheromone levels have dropped due to my age and as she is a believer in the chemical attraction between 2 people I don’t want to miss out on this chance if at all possible. She has felt this attraction between us as we have discussed this, but it wasn’t powerful enough for her. Just looking for a little boost if at all possible?
Thanks,
Andy
Sorry, just to add. I’m British, living in England and caucasian and the girl is the same also.
Hey thanks for the details AndyW987.
I’m sure the more experienced, older gentleman around this forum could give you much better recommendations than me, but just by quickly analyzing your scenario, I’d say a few products come to mind.
First would be A314. This is the alpha product that gives you the appearance of maturity and great value. This one seems to always be essential for getting a woman to take a relationship to a more serious level.
Next would be TUTH. This is the potent sexual product. It is also a good dominant one too as well. So this can help you appear more sexy and powerful, and what women doesn’t want that? Also it can spice up the bedroom fun to great new heights. And if you blow her mind she’ll surely not want to let you go.
Third would be IH. This product promotes deep bonding connections and can also help people open up to deep conversations and even revealing some secrets. This one could be well used to bring her to that comfortability level you would want her to be to consider a serious relationship with you. And you can also talk it out and she’ll be serious and honest with you.
You can also consider Instant Shine.. not really necessarily for the goals you seek but this one is like cloud 9 in a bottle, so if everyone is in a great mood it can help everything go smoother.
Some guys will wear these in combos, some will wear each one on its own at different times. It’s really up to you, but again I think one of the older gentleman around here will chime in and give you a more exact recommendation.
Hi Jdub,
Thank you for your through reply and information. This is all new to me and all the information is interesting and will be of great use to me. I have already ordered some TUTH and AMMO as a start and will probably order some additional products in the next couple of days once I have gathered as much information as I can to help me decide how best to move forward with this.
Your explanation of the possible effects of A314 and IH have got me wondering if I should have included them in my first order, but I will possible try TUTH when it arrives as we have some time planned together next week.
Kind regards,
Andy
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Hi Andy and welcome!
To start what I would do is use the Ammo very first thing and save the TUTH for a little while and build her up with the Ammo. I would start with 1 spray and work up from there. Being 50 and if it is the regular version of Ammo and not the Heavy or 2X I would work up to 4 sprays at the most unless your sweet spot is less. You could always work up to say 3-4 sprays then dial the Ammo back to say 2 sprays and then add 1/2 spray of TUTH and see what you get.
With what you have now I this is what I would do. Now to add to what you have I suggest,
A314 This one at your age should work very well. Besides work and business, this will provide the value and show her you are a keeper. The attraction apparently is already there and if you can build the value now it should work very much in your favor here.
IShine Also very important and will help give you that youthful vibrant healthy glow and for her to view you as a potential healthy mate she will want to be with. Will boost your confidence and put everyone in a good mood.
IH Will get to the heart of her feelings on how she really feels which is what you are after. Just be prepared to hear anything that may come out of her mouth.
I hope this helps and if you have any questions at all please ask and good luck!!!
Hi Justin,
Thank for your welcome and advice. I have used AMMO on the few times we have met recently and I can notice a change in the way she looks and acts towards me. On out last encounter I added some TUTH into the mix and there was definitely more of a response from her during our evening with more touching and more passionate and frequent kissing so I hope things are starting to progress and will continue to do so with the help of your suggestions.
I have just ordered some IH, IS an IO and will experiment with adding some of those into the mix next week when we meet up again. Fingers crossed that the effect is positive and things move in the right direction for me.
Thanks,
Andy
OK great that things are going your way. You did right by starting with Ammo and let her get use to this signature and then transition the TUTH. Just remember less is often more, and what I mean is that it is best to have slightly less than OD and scare her off.
I agree with those socials you picked and would start with the IShine. I highly suggest using a Ammo/IShine combo and what I would do is go slightly lighter on the Ammo and hit her with this setup. I say go slightly lighter on the Ammo so you can add a small amount of TUTH later on.
Keep us updated on how things go!