Hey everyone. My name is Jin (prefer to use my alias), I’m a univeristy student (college to all you Americans) from the UK. I just wanted to say that having skim read a few posts, this seems like a genuinely warm community, one which I can see being involved in, even if I didn’t buy the products. I am completely new to pheromones, I only found out they even existed last night whilst browsing the internet for relationship advice.
Here’s my story. I’ve been friends with this girl for around 10 years and we’ve both been happy to be in the friendzone. Recently though we’ve started to get really close and it’s got to a point where she’s visibly annoyed by me having close contact with other girls. The problem is, I don’t want to take the risk of losing my best friend, just in case I’ve misread the signals. So I thought maybe using pheromones will help move things in the right direction because I’m not her type physically and vice versa.
I’ve heard that Ammunition is the best product to use. Is that true? Has it worked for other people? If so, could someone give me examples of the successes they’ve had? Is there a product I should use along side it for optimum results?
Ideally I would like a product that will increase physical/sexual attraction, as I fear that the biggest hurdle would be overcoming the friendzone.
I genuinely mean no offence by my next question but seeing as this message board is run by androtics direct, is there any bias towards their products? I’ve come across brands such as chikara, how do androticsdirects products compare to such brands?
Thank you very much for taking your time to read my somewhat long message and I hope to contribute to what seems like a truly wonderful and warm community.
Welcome to the board Jin, You’ve certainly found the best community for Pheromone advice and the best products. I’ve been in a similar situation to yours a few times in the past. You have to really be careful, but my best advice would be to be honest with your friend.
I think your choice of Ammo would be a wise start. Ammo was what I started with, and I would definitely recommend adding some IS to it. Maybe even some IO or IH, and even some A314. Ammo and IS has been my go to mix since I first started with mones.
Even though this board is run by AD, the discussion here is open to products from most other Pheromone companies. I think if there is a bias towards their products, it’s only because the customers truly prefer there products.
Good luck with your friend and welcome again. There is a wealth of great information here, just use the search function to find whatever you may need. Also, you probably qualify for the $25 gift card for new customers. There is a link on the main page of this forum you may want to check out.
Thank you for responding sheenis. I ordered ammo, p83 and instant shine. Is that a good combination to help grow attraction with someone you already know well? Thanks again.
Jin, I’ve just received my first order of P83. But from everything I’m reading that should be an amazing combination. I haven’t had time to test it out yet, but I will very shortly. I think you’ve made a wise decision.
Wow - there ought to be enough users in the UK you guys need to start a club or something!
Ammunition is a great all around product. it has enough none in it to let you friend know you are interested but it is balanced enough that you can wear it anywhere. If there is something there it should help bump things in that direction.
The other product to think about is IH. IH helps generate feelings of connection - which there obviously is - and as a result you often a get a lot of soul-beraing conversations. Some ammunition and a good dose of this - and I would think she would certainly open up and let you know know if she is really interested or not.
What you have to decide though is if you are interested in her romantically. Seriously interested. Because if you are then it is worth taking a risk. If not, then just keep it at friends.
There are a lot of other decent products out there. And a lot of us use them. But because this forum is run by Androtics we try to keep most of our commentary limited to the androtics products. Now you can certainly ask questions about other products in the mens forum and people will answer them truthfully. Just do not try linking to anything elsewhere or that will get you into trouble.
I always here that the most successful relationships started of as friendships however most women in Northern america don’t go down that route because they are not attracted to their friends.
That is where the problem lies if she is not attracted to you or see you as that alpha male then chances are she will want to just be friends.
The men know more about this and will work with you to assist you in the path you want to venture in.
As for the smell - Ammo is by far the strongest scent there and the others will settle to a background level after 30 mins or so and will hardly (if at all) smell them over the Ammo.
Yes pretty reasonable to start off with and 25mcg of P83 is a reasonable dose - Most seem to report results in the 20-50mcg range. Remember to get and stay close plus initiate Kino from the off and escalate as much as you can. P83 thrives on physical contact.
I might suggest you go to 2 sprays of IS though. Esp alongside Ammo.
If you are thinking on anything else, I’d tend to increase the Ammo before I increase the A314 - One spray /a is quite present and considering you ages, too much may make you seem very daunting to her.
So 1x ammunition, 2x IS, 1x P83 and 1x A314 perfect combo?
A question I have regarding pheromones is, do pheromones like ammo, make you give off a sex vibe and in turn if they’re interested it gives them a nudge in your direction or does it make them want you more regardless of whether they have an underlying interest?
Its a very good start - I’m still looking for the perfect combo several years down the line - best I can say is that I have a range of selections/choices/mixes that are liable to perform well with different people and types of people in different situations!
Then there is the personal/personality factor as well - you will need to adjust your mix to complement that too.
They certainly make you seem more sexual and whatever the range of social feelings you are promoting but the ultimate result depends on the individual subject - I would say there are a wide range of responses depending on the individual and their personality, situation and levels of interest. And of course, if she has no such inclination, no amount of pheros will change that. In fact, they may drive her away or make you seem strange or even creepy to her.
You usually have to nudge things in a sexual direction yourself though. The number of times I’ve had a woman bowl me straight off my feet when exposed to my phero sig are fairly small (but memorable!), however quite a number have kept their cool to begin with but later made comments that hinted they were turned-on and up for it a lot earlier than I had expected. eg - “The way you smelled when you came out of the bathroom tonight made me so horny!” “All the way home in your car, I was just wishing you would stop and fuck me!” It was worth the wait to build-up some more anticipation inbetween.
She’s not the horny type at all tbh. If anything she’s extremely reserved in a sexual sense. Will it loosen her up? Make her more touchy feely? or would it have an adverse affect. Thanks again.
You might be surprised how even the most reserved and strait-laced types can change when exposed to the right behaviour/personality triggers and phero signals!
However, IME a very outwardly reserved woman is often one who might respond best to a more social/status signal - initially at least. This is where your behaviour is important to help her relax and enjoy herself enough around you. Your choice of activiy is also a factor here - something physical might be better as opposed to polite conversation.
Having a lot of fun sheds inhibitions and self-imposed barriers better and faster than anything IME.
