Hi Im Andrew

Hello there,
my name is andrew at 20 years of age

I found out about this shop/forum through some research.

About me:
I would describe myself as a rather introverted person. Actually I don’t have problems when it comes to talking with women (but I’m not an alpha guy <IMG class=inlineimg title=“Big Grin” border=0 alt=“” width=16 height=16>).

After a while I think to much and say stuff that I don’t wanna say (meaningless stuff).
This especially happens when I met this woman (once in a week) when I go and do my self-proclaimed “hobby job” <IMG class=inlineimg title=Embarrassment border=0 alt=“” width=16 height=16>.
She’s kinda engaged, but I have a small crush on her.
I’m not good at spotting ioi’s, but I think sometimes I saw some from her (some random situations)…

Guess a problem I have is to calm my brain down in certain situations and just having a good time <IMG class=inlineimg title=Cool border=0 alt=“” width=16 height=16>.

I’m unemployed right at the moment, but I’m working on that. Might have found something at the beginning of december.

Other random facts:

  • Never used pheros
  • Looked up dooooooooooozens of threads for research <IMG class=inlineimg title=“Big Grin” border=0 alt=“” width=16 height=16>
  • Has hopes that the pheros will help in certain situations (no, for me it’s not about getting as many chicks like a rockstar)
  • Thinks about making a journal or a normal thread with results/changes.
    If someone has questions, feel free to ask :>

hey, welcome to PT!

IO and IH should help others open up! IO would make others chattier and IH would make them connected and comfortable.

Ammo might be good to attract girls. I Wouldn’t gurantee that it would attract that specific person, but MANY MANY girls, and maybe even her would become attracted.
So give ammo a try ! IT goes well with instant shine, so get some of it too!

It seems like you did some research about mones and this site. Yay! Come join us in the men’s forum. We should help you with not only mones but other thigns, such as how to pick up and talk to girls. We are here to help and be supportive, cool guy.

IG and A314 are also good for attracting girls. It would showcase maturity, dependability, manliness and power. A314 is more alpha, but since you’re shy start off with IG!

Hey Andrew and welcome to the forums.

I’m glad you did some research and made attempts and efforts to learn a little bit about the products. Makes our jobs a bit easier in helping to guide you.

Right off the bat, you want to take charge and you want that alpha vibe. Women just love it regardless. No one wants to date a Nancy. So that IMO is one of the top notch projects that you should look into. What can help you with that pheromone wise is Instant Gentleman. It’s not too overbearing, but it’s also not a pushover. It is a great happy medium.

For attraction on an every day basis, like what everyone else will tell you will be AMMO. It’s got the trifecta of the most used and proven molecules. Androsterone (IG, A314), Androstenone (AMMO, TUTH, IJ), and Androstenol (IO, IH, CTTM) and it really really just works.

Based on how you write, I would also recommend you look at Instant Shine, that has a charismatic feel good vibe. It’s awesome and it’s one of the staples of my usages.

Secondly, to help develop some skills, look up some books. Many members here have had great success with Mystery Method.

Also way of the superior man, and other books on alpha mindset and inner game from David DeAngelo and Vin DeCarlo are also good reads.

You’ve entered into an awesome time for discovery and fun. Welcome.

Welcome!

To help make conversations with strangers easier, try CTTM2 or equal amounts of IO and IH. (Try 1 or 2 sprays of each on your neck.) Either one of these will make people want to talk to you. You’ll need to participate in the conversation to help keep it going, but the -mones will grease the skids for you.

Good luck!

Greetings and Salutations Andrew.
First thing I want to address is remember this woman is engaged…I understand having a crush but keep in mind that this isn’t a random single woman you’ll be meeting for the first time.
A.) She already has some preconceived notions and impressions of you that even with mones will take time and effort on your part to change.
B.) Being single is different than having a BF and having a BF is different than having a guy that (at the moment at least) you plan on marrying and spending the rest of your life with.

Can you attract this woman?..yes
Will pheromones help? Yes
Will they do it all?..no, you WILL have to do things to change her perception of you.
Can you change her perception of you before she says “I do”?..hard to say.
Even if you can become attractive in her eyes will she leave her fiance for you?..probably not. Consider the investment she has in this. If she’s engaged she’s already met and most likely has been accepted by his family and he probably knows hers and is already thought of like a son to them. Depending how long she’s been engaged family has been told, things get bought, halls rented etc. If she suddenly calls off her engagement this can be a financial issue for both families not to mention the general disappointment she’d have coming from her own family. (unless the guys a jerk and her family hates him)

Now I’m not saying you shouldn’t work on your confidence, and developing attractive qualities…you should, and mones will definitely help in that area. I just want to make sure you don’t approach this thinking that spraying some mones on every time you see her will make her break off her engagement…it could happen, but it’s a real long shot.

That said, Coolkat is right about IG and A314. I would start off with IG maybe get a to go sized bottle, this will also help with job interviews…it’s a little alpha but not aggressively so, it conveys masculine maturity, reliability and strength. Use a single spray or two per day for about a month. Couple it with some Instant Openness…it’s fun and light and chatty…makes people just want to talk to you.
When those run out, switch to A314+Instant Honesty.
The status and alpha effect gets turned up a notch and the convo goes from light friendly chit chat to deeper more meaning full conversations between people that have a connection.

P51Mustang gave some great book advice. Reading the stuff he suggests will give you a lot of info that may sound counter intuitive at first but it’s good advice.
Best of luck bro.

Welcome to Pherotalk Andrew!

Your situation is not simple and so in order to solve anything that is not so simple you dissect it and try to take things step by step.

The guys already gave you some great advice and pheromone suggestions.

Dito on the instant gentleman that will make you seem more mature and dependable. It will also give off that cool , suave guy vibe. This pheromone will assist for both work and in your social life.

Seeing that your crush is married and not single or have a boyfriend which is different I wouldn’t even know where to start.

You can have a crush on her for many reasons and a crush suggests just that it starts of really high and ends with a huge crash. It could be the very fact that she is married and unavailable adds to her attractiveness.

I would think carefully to where this could lead before I pursue but that is only an opinion.

I will read your posts to see where this leads and how the story unfolds.

Your gc was issued!