Hi, I'm new here! :)

[Ray_Ray_SuperJay]

hello everybody!
i’m new to this forum. i already read a lot of reports and advices.
i got kind a skeptical about the actual WORKING pheromon effect. after i tried pheros first, last year.

i ordered one bottle of “Pheromax”. tried it a couple of times. i was never really sure IF there is any effect at all because nothing really groundbreaking happended.
but i always got this special feeling that it may have worked.

anyway.

after i read a lot of interessting stuff in this forum it got me really excited again!

i’m 21y old, have a athletic body, and i like going to clubs and flirte with hot women. the stressing is on HOT, i’m the kind of guy who’s always in for horny sex anywehre and anytime(if I can say it like that).

I think I’ve done my research. and my conclusion is as following:

• Instant Shine (for looking Very exciting and VIP-like to the girls)

• Instant Honesty (for getting an immediat convenient and
  trustworthy connection)

• Turn Up The Heat (for giving out that Hot, Sexy flair and making the girls
  Really Horny)

what do you guys think of my combination? will it fit my porpouses?

THANKS in advance! i already love this forum!

peace Ray

[RaiderMagic]

hey welcome to the forum dude!

haha pheromax? never heard about it, but you are much better here!

i think the choices that you have selected are great for your goals. i think you will do well and i cant wait to hear your reports!

normally most people would go straight towards the sexual pheromones, but they don’t realize that you need to build some trust and comfort before you can lead to sex. it seems like got that down already!

enjoy your stay here and take care!

edit: you posted in the wrong section of the forum, but a mod will straighten this out!

[360addict]

those are some pretty good choices for what your looking for..

I see that this is your 1st post, i recommend introducing yourself in the introduction section and you’ll be qualified for a gift card

[ntk23]

Pheromax: employs 3 mg androsteNONE and 2 mg androsteNOL.
http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php?products_id=18
At least they do say what’s in it. Many products I’ve seen in some seedier parts of the net don’t say anything apart from “contains pheromones”. Well, there’s a lot of good advice on this forum; Renny’s congruence thread is a good one, I recommend it. It sounds like you are being congruent already when you’re down the clubs, if you “like to flirt”. There is also a lot of PUA/seduction literature out there that can be useful in creating the “total package”, I don’t know if you’re familiar with any of that stuff; there seems to be quite a Venn-diagram intersection between the guys on this forum, the seduction community, and NLP enthusiasts.

[Wolfy]

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

i ordered one bottle of “Pheromax”. tried it a couple of times. i was never really sure IF there is any effect at all because nothing really groundbreaking happended.
but i always got this special feeling that it may have worked.

I worry about a product that says “Comes in Attractive box” Are you supposed to wear the box?
I don’t care if it comes wrapped in gold leaf, does that make it work better, are you supposed to wear the box?

Androntics products, come wrapped securely in bubble pack and packed in a shipping package, they spend their money on product, not packaging.

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

i’m 21y old, have a athletic body, and i like going to clubs and flirt with hot women. the stressing is on HOT, i’m the kind of guy who’s always in for horny sex anywhere and anytime(if I can say it like that).

I would strongly recommend Instant Openness, it is like bottled liquid flirt, a few sprays of IO and a spray of Turn Up The Heat and you are like Mr Flirty sexy guy. be careful wearing to much TUTH, you will get guys flexing their mussles at you and trying to pick a fight.

are you really 21 or 28?
That makes a differance, I would suggest trying Instant Gentleman as well, I find it good on the 20-27 year-old ladies.

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

• Instant Shine (for looking Very exciting and VIP-like to the girls)

• Instant Honesty (for getting an immediat convenient and
  trustworthy connection)

• Turn Up The Heat (for giving out that Hot, Sexy flair and making the girls
  Really Horny)

I might switch the Instant Shine for Ammo.

@360addict

I see that this is your 1st post, i recommend introducing yourself in the introduction section and you’ll be qualified for a gift card

yes that is good advice!

[Ray_Ray_SuperJay]

WOW! so many nice replys already! you guys are fast! THX

@RaiderMagic
yeah i really fast realized that this Pheromax product isn’t even mentioned once in here. so i guess it isn’t a good product at all. but i’m very confident in this place here, cause here i see a lot more proof and specialized products.

i will post my experiences for sure, but not that soon. cause i’ll will order my stuff in like 3 - 6 weeks.

and sorry for posting in the wrong section, i will pay more attention to that next time.

@360addict
ok sounds great, i’ll do that right now. hehe gifts never get old.

@ntk23
ah you already did some research. good one!
haha you’re spot on! i actually just visited a very good seduction site for the first time the other day. there i found alot of really awsome tips and tricks which are always welcome if it improves my “skills”.

it was there were they mentioned pheros again, which got me intressted in them again.

@woofie2
yes you sound very reasonable, haha! wearing the box… would look kind a stupid.. i guess.

no i’m really 21(but my english isn’t my original language, live in switzerland. half American and half swiss), and my target age for girls is, 18 - 22.

ok now i have one more thing i’d like to ask: why should i take Instant Openess over Instant Honesty, or the other way around? i mean what’s the real difference between the two? because to me they look very similar.
how i understand it is like that:

Instant Openess:
JUST helps to break the ice of start talking to a girl, but i usually don’t have much problems in approaching a girl, and start to talk. but if it gives me a big boost OK, why not.

Instant Honesty:
is real good if you already approached her, cause she will feel like she already knows you for a long time, trust you. feel very confortable and intimate confortable around you.

and can somebody explain me the differences betweenInstant Shine and Ammo too? i thought ammo is just like a less aggressive Turn Up The Heat?!

And this is my Evil Plan:
first Instant Shine will make me look like a VIP who is entering the club, and the girls will be like: wow he looks soo exciting.

than Turn Up the Heat will make the girls horny around me, and make them like: oh my god he is like a star and god damn i’m soo hot and horny on this guy.

than maybe girls will still think, damn ok i’m horny and hot on this guy, but i have to try to keep my will strong and act normal, cause i don’t KNOW this guy at all.
and than the final phase, Instant Honesty will unleash such a good connection which makes them think: cheeses i feel so close to this guy and confortabel around him. it’s like i really KNOW this guy.

and the best part of it. if i talk to a girl she might be HONEST and say me the TRUTH: boy I’m So Horny on you, i want You, right now!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! haha!

may sound a bit fancy and over the top, but i think you get my scheme.

peace Ray

[Wolfy]

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

no I’m really 21(but my English isn’t my original language, live in Switzerland. half American and half Swiss), and my target age for girls is, 18 - 22.

I can understand, I would have similar or worse problems with German. (French, Italian or Romansh I would be totally lost)

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

ok now i have one more thing i’d like to ask: why should i take Instant Openness over Instant Honesty, or the other way around? i mean what’s the real difference between the two? because to me they look very similar.
how i understand it is like that:

Instant Openness:
JUST helps to break the ice of start talking to a girl, but i usually don’t have much problems in approaching a girl, and start to talk. but if it gives me a big boost OK, why not.

Instant Honesty:
is real good if you already approached her, cause she will feel like she already knows you for a long time, trust you. feel very comfortable and intimate comfortable around you.

It has been my findings, that IO will get people chattering, if they really want to talk to you or not.
IH works better on closer friends, than meeting nice ladies at a club.
I had IH for a few weeks then bought IO, the difference is shocking as a young lady walked past me in the store, spun on her heels and smiled said hi the second day I wore IO. I have not had a strong reaction like that to IH.

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

and can somebody explain me the differences betweenInstant Shine and Ammo too? i thought ammo is just like a less aggressive Turn Up The Heat?!

Instant Shine is a “feel good, young and healthy” vibe pheromone, like spraying on instant sunshine, so you and everyone around you will be generally happy and feel good.
Ammo is a similar, TUTH but is buffered a little better for easier use, seeing as you are a younger guy, TUTH’s high level of sexuality may cause distance between you and the targeted women. Ammo is a slightly more versatile version.

@Ray_Ray_SuperJay

And this is my Evil Plan:
first Instant Shine will make me look like a VIP who is entering the club, and the girls will be like: wow he looks soo exciting.

than Turn Up the Heat will make the girls horny around me, and make them like: oh my god he is like a star and god damn i’m soo hot and horny on this guy.

than maybe girls will still think, damn ok i’m horny and hot on this guy, but i have to try to keep my will strong and act normal, cause i don’t KNOW this guy at all.
and than the final phase, Instant Honesty will unleash such a good connection which makes them think: cheeses i feel so close to this guy and conformable around him. it’s like i really KNOW this guy.

that is a good thought, Instant Shine will help with the status, A314 is real “I am Mr Man” Status vibe. (trust and respect, think Sean Connery as James Bond)

IO with TUTH will send a This guys is making me horny, and I want to talk to him vibe.
IH is a more of a truth vibe, this guy tells the truth, and I should be truthful with him.

[Ray_Ray_SuperJay]

It has been my findings, that Instant Openness will get people chattering, if they really want to talk to you or not.
Instant Honesty works better on closer friends, than meeting nice ladies at a club.
I had Instant Honesty for a few weeks then bought Instant Openness, the difference is shocking as a young lady walked past me in the store, spun on her heels and smiled said hi the second day I wore Instant Openness. I have not had a strong reaction like that to Instant Honesty.

hmm.. ok, that’s some good advice there. so according to you Instant Openess should work better for me? I will now change Instant Honesty with Instant Openess. because it will fit my porpouse of meeting nice girls in clubs, and having fun with them much better.

Instant Shine is a “feel good, young and healthy” vibe pheromone, like spraying on instant sunshine, so you and everyone around you will be generally happy and feel good.
Ammo is a similar, Turn Up The Heat but is buffered a little better for easier use, seeing as you are a younger guy, Turn Up The Heat’s high level of sexuality may cause distance between you and the targeted women. Ammo is a slightly more versatile version.

well then i think i don’t really need Instant Shine. so does that mean TUTH wouldn’t work for me because i’m 21, and would probabely turn off the girls?? cause i thought TUTH is perfect for getting girls horny?!

but if Ammo fits my cause better for making women hot, then I will also change TUTH with Ammo.

that is a good thought, Instant Shine will help with the status, A314 is real “I am Mr Man” Status vibe. (trust and respect, think Sean Connery as James Bond)

same here, i will change Instant Shine with A314. cause i presume it will also be more appropriate for my goals.

Instant Openness with Turn Up The Heat will send a This guys is making me horny, and I want to talk to him vibe.

so to achive this result in my case, should I use Ammo + Instant Openess?? cause TUTH + Instant Openess wouldn’t work for ME and probabely TURN OFF the girls??

thank you very much for helping me here. i appreciate it.