Hi, looking forward to trying some pheromones!

Hi I am an 18 year old male from Manchester, England. My girlfriend purchased an ann summers pheromone perfume and felt the effects shall we sayI (I realise the quality compared to here is likely poor). Anyway I tried to find a male equivalent and stumbled across this site. I am really interested and looking forward to trying out some of the different types and seeing the effect. I am a reasonably confident person and don’t worry too much about anything. The reason for looking into these is partly due to it sounding interesting and and partly due to looking for a little fun, the thought being this could provide some.

What I could do with some help on is pricing, I noticed some bottles e.g. the instant honesty is hugely more expensive than others, is this due to stronger effects or ..?

Also why are the higher strength bottles not recommended, is stronger not better?

Do these pheromones affect your own at all, or even clash?

If you got a 2x strength but used half the quantity would that still work the same?

Last question, sorry I know I’m asking a lot but I’m completely new to this, what sort of pheromones would you recommend?

Thanks for any help/advice you can give me!

Hi ACLD,

to answer some questions - Instant Honesty hasn’t always been so expensive. It is a very good product, we all swear by it. The thing is, its main molecules (androstenols) are difficult to obtain lately, hence the price. It is difficult for all of us.

Yeah, stronger is NOT better. You’ll find answers why, too little space to explain all that in a single post. I strongly recommend that you read all sticky threads you can find in the Men’s section as well as here in the Introductions subforum. You’ll learn a lot, everything has been explained so well there that I won’t even try to do it again, because it wouldn’t compare. For my first few days after I found this forum, I was just reading :slight_smile:

It’s very cool you’ve got a girlfriend who’s open to trying things - you will both have a lot of fun with this pheromone adventure :slight_smile:

Welcome :slight_smile:

Thanks Marihino for clearing that up with the price, it really had me confused. I think I will be able to relate with all the reading, I am often the type to find an interest and immerse myself in it until I know everything I can find on it! I am going to look into the explanations on strength not equalling better.
What I am wondering about doing is using half the amount of a double strength, the reason being is it would work out cheaper overall. Would this work the same? I noticed a few UK members in reviews so I imagine there is shipping to the UK but is it very expensive?
Yeah she wants me to get the TUTH and wear it without telling her so we can see any effects without any placebo, heres hoping it works :smiley:

Hi ACLD!

I’m also an 18 year old male just entering the world of pheromones. The consensus on the forum is that TUTH is generally too powerful for us young guns because we already produce quite a lot of its molecules on our own. I once saw somebody write that its the chemical equivalent of running around with your cock out haha. But regardless that’s pretty cool that your GF wants you to try; something like ammo or even something lighter might work a little better. But I’ll leave the suggestions to the experts here.

Welcome to Pherotalk!

shipping is free in the US and 20$ to the rest of the world (there are a few countries that pheromones can’t be shipped to). I live in the UK myself, and while that 20$ isn’t little, I don’t complain, as every single time I’ve been receiving my orders in about 36 hours from them being posted - like they post on Monday morning (which is Monday evening here) from California, and I get it on Wednesday morning, UK time.
Double strenghts can work out well, but some pheromones (especially the sexual or authority-related like androstenone or androsterone) can be overdosed. People get too strong a signal about you and see you as a horny creep. So better have more of a lighter one. It’s not worth paying a bit less if it’s not gonna give you good results, right? The so-called social pheromones, like IH, IO or Instant Shine can’t really be overdosed (although you could use so much that the results are wrong, like you lose some of the authority induced by other mones), so they are available in 2x versions, and I believe 4x as well as a custom order. It’s sometimes worth doing not only to pay less, but to use fewer sprays of the cologne and still get more pheromones working. I personally use Instant Shine and Ammo in double versions. You would probably be perfectly fine with regular Ammo at your age, as you produce a lot of your own androstenone, and girls your age are not responsive to too high levels of it. Old people like my good self produce less of it, while girls my age respond much better to heavy androstenone mixes. Mean trick of Mother Nature :slight_smile:

Do your reading, we’ll check on you soon :slight_smile:

Loving the analogy there FightOn, but it does leave me unsure at what to go for. You see I’m not looking for something to wear all the time, I couldn’t afford it to be brutally honest. So thats why I was looking at TUTH, the thought being it was really to give that kick when I do so to speak. I wasn’t sure about AMMO because it seems to be more of a general he’s good looking kind of vibe which is not necessarily what I am going for. My girlfriend and I have an open relationship so I was looking to use it at a club or party as well so… Basically I am happy to take any advice. I am still lost to be honest with why you cannot use half quantities of double strength? If it has twice the number of molecules per gram and you use half the number of grams will you not have the same number of molecules?

But that analogy is spot on. I have used it myself on this forum quite a few times. Saying that you choose TUTH over Ammo so you can just give that one strong kick instead of wearing Ammo regularly is like… OK, which guy gets laid more? The one who is well groomed, looks happy and is friendly, talk to people? Or the one who comes to the party unshowered, unshaved, grumpy, and all of the sudden whips his cock out and shouts: “who wants to fuck?!”. If you have a girlfriend, and you’re in your bedroom with her, getting your cock out can make her happy and turned on, even if you’re wearing the same t-shirt as yesterday. So can wearing TUTH. Doing either of those things while meeting completely new people, not so much. I can understand that these things are expensive. But ESPECIALLY when you can’t afford to wear it all the time, you don’t want to waste your money for something that’s not suited, do you? The pheromone being more sexual doesn’t mean that you will get more sex. You need to cause attraction first. TUTH won’t give you that. It’s for arousal in relationships that are already actively sexual.

Ah ok, see I hadn’t quite got that. So really I want some variation of the AMMO and that would be good for when I go out? If I am looking for AMMO would you recommend the summer edition or not? I usually prefer to wear more woody fragrances when it comes to aftershave in case that makes a difference. Thanks for all the help everyone.

Oh and I never go out with out a shower first :slight_smile:

I don’t know the summer edition. Ammo is a very good products, although still - at your age a single shot will quite probably be max that you can use without overdosing, I’ve explained why a couple of posts ago. And don’t overlook products like IG. A314 gets me laid more that Ammo or P83 or other products known as “sexual”. Simply because it suggests qualities in me, that women find attractive and desirable. And there is many things that are more desirable for women than a boner. It’s not hard (no pun intended) to obtain a boner when they find a man with those other qualities :slight_smile:

Welcome Alcd!

The reason for the prices of these products is explained in this thread. If you do not totally understand and need to ask further questions about the pricing you can go into that same thread to clear things up.

The other questions that you have can be answered by reading the thread in my signature introducing you to pheromones.

For what to start up with I suggest these :

Ammunition -----> Confidence boast and to give of that strong , sexual vibe

Instant shine ------> Make you feel calm , refreshed and give of that youthful vibe that draws ppl to you.

Together they make a killer combo for attraction

Your gc was issued!