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Hi!:slight_smile:

I’m 32 and live in New York. I enjoy research, physiology, psychology and fitness. I maintain a healthy body, mind and lifestyle. I’m relaxed, confident and mildly extraverted. I first learned of pheromones as a student in college. I discovered pheroTalk browsing online for health information and learned of androtics by reading postings on PheroTalk. I’m on the forum because I want to learn answers to the following questions.

Update: Thank you for the replies and all of the great answers! I posted summaries of the answers I received in the replies I read below each question. Please let me know if my summaries are inaccurate. Thanks again!

1) Observe reactions.
What are the best places and situations to observe reactions to Alpha A314, AMMO, Turn Up The Heat and the instant line?
For all products: The best place to observe reactions are those where you have the most knowledge of the individuals’ personality/mood etc, because that knowledge makes reactions easier to judge and hits can happen everywhere (Josef). Being able to observe reactions to pheros may require learning to guage peoples’ reactions. The trick is knowing what the pheros are “saying” to people, judging those reactions, and you behaving/speaking in a manner that backs up those signals and gets people to do what you want them to do. Reactions may not occur in people who know you well because their conscious mind may override the suggestions they receive from your new pheromone signature; however, acting congruent with your signature changes their perception of you. (Bosshank). The best place may be work. (Bosshank).

For -none: A great place to observe reactions is a local store with 4 to 5 drops of -none. (Josef).
For A314: the best place to use it is work to see more clear reactions; however, some are afraid to approach until you give cues. (Tisha23).
For Ammo: everywhere. (Tisha23).
TUTH: sexual environment. (Tisha23).

Which products cause the easiest reactions and the most difficult reactions to observe?
For easy to observe reactions: 4-5 drops of -none in a local store. (Josef). The easiest reactions to see depend on the environment and what works for the user’s chemistry. (Tisha23).

What are the most typical observable reactions among strangers and familiars to those pheromones?
Typical reactions are subtle, such as increased attention, body cues and language, socializing and flirting, but can be blatant. (Tisha23).

2) The right amount.
How can the right amount to apply be figured out for single product applications and mixture applications?
The method to figure out the right amount for single product applications and mixtures is to use each product solo in gradually increasing amounts until you get results consistent with the molecule that makes up the product, and then adjust the amount for the extent of the desire effect. (Josef). Finding the right dose for each pheromone takes a little trial and error; though ranges can be given by the forum, individuals need to experiment to find their own sweetspot. (Bosshank). Older users might need higher doses than younger users. (Cat).

Does increasing the dosage increase the reaction in a responder until there is an OD reaction (like this progression of the intensity of reactions to 6 sprays: 1,2,3,4,5,OD), or is there more of a bell curve reaction, where increasing the dosage beyond the “sweet spot” results in diminished returns in a single responder and then an OD reaction, (like this progression: 1,2,3,2,1,OD)?
First dosage increases result in slightly increased responses. Much later increases do not increase responses but may result in diminished returns which are the OD effect. (Tisha23).

Also, is the sweet spot for desired results really a range of number of sprays based on responders’ differing sensitivity, or do people tend to have the same reaction to the same number of sprays?
Yes, there is a range, but it’s usually small and no more than 1 spray wide. (Tisha23).

3) Simulcast.
Can all the products achieve each products’ individual desired results when i) used at the same time and ii) in the same amounts, as individual applications, or would the results be different? For example, if IO achieved the desire results at 2 sprays when used separately, will the same result from IO be achieved if used in a mix?
The individual products can all be used together in the same amounts for each products’ desired effect; however, you may not want the same intensity of the desired effect at the same time. (Josef). Effective combinations depend on the individuals goals. (Cat).
The results will have subtle differences because some products steer the other products. (Tisha23).

4) Common applications.
Are the most common applications the use of a base - AMMO, Alpha 314, Instant Gentlemen or Instant Female Magic - and the possible use of a specific product - TUTH, Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty? If not, what are they?
Yes, picking one or two base pheromones as a base and adding socials to steer that product is best.

5) Improve.
Which pheromones should be used, and how to: i) increase the chances of getting a raise, new position or new job in an employer’s office, ii) enhance chances of receiving honest answers, rather than lies or no answers, from co-workers and opponents; iii) attract romantic interest from healthy girls in casual public places, iv) generate sexual interest in girls, and v) increase the likelihood a girl will act on her sexual desire?
All of the products can be used to achieve these results; however, the results are much easier to obtain when acting congruent with the products. (Josef).

For job raise: A314, IG, IS. (Tisha23).
For honesty: None overcome a person’s plan to lie to you; however, IH makes others more likely to talk about deeper subjects and confess or confide in you more. (Tisha23).
For romantic interest: Ammo, IG, US.
Generate sexual interest: TUTH, Raw Power, P83.
Increase likelihood a girl will act on sexual interest: IFM.

6) Share.
What is the best way to share the results with the forum and ask questions?
The men’s forum is the best way to share results and get answers to questions. (Josef). If you can’t get an answer that way, PM Tisha23 or call Steve. (Tisha 23).

7) Others.
How do I find information about the putative, experimone and mx series results?
Searching the forum is the best way to find information on putative, experimone and mx series results; however, not knowing the suspected results may be in one’s interest because it allows unbiased testing. (Cat, Josef). If that fails, post a product question in the appropriate forum. (Cat).

8) Recommendation.
Which products, other than A314, AMMO, TUTH and the instant line, are most recommended and what do they do?
The most popular products are listed in the left-side bar on the store. (Josef).
The other popular products are in the advanced section, but starting with the consumer line is suggested because using raw molecules takes some pheromone understanding. (Tisha23).

I’ve read the product descriptions, some great stickies and a lot of really informative threads but I wasn’t able to find the answers to these questions. Thank you for your great help! :slight_smile:

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Hey Captain!

I’m impressed - you’ve really done your homework!

You’ll find the guys (and girls!) in the forums are very helpful and encouraging as you make your way from rank amateur (pun intended) to seasoned phero user.

I have been having issues myself with getting the right dosage. I am 40, and it has been suggested that I might need to use a little more than the younger crowd. I’m waiting for my products to come in to give that theory a try.

Your question about a dosage bell curve is good; I don’t know the answer, but I bet someone responds soon with an answer.

Regarding effective combinations: I haven’t checked the guys’ section, but I know the women have a lengthy post discussing that very thing. It really seems to depend on the individual and his/her goals.

>How do I find information about the putative, experimone and mx series results?

Use the search feature, that’s the quickest way. I found the store itself doesn’t always have satisfactory explanations, but your chances are good that someone on here has already asked and gotten a response.

If not, just post your product question in the appropriate forum. You’ll see that everyone on here is friendly and helpful. I love 'em all!

Cat

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hey captain, hello and welcome to the forums.

i think you are limited to one question per post so you have exceeded your question quota for at least the next three days. i’ll take a stab at them however, in the hopes i won’t be banned for doing so.

1)hits happen anywhere, everywhere and sometimes nowhere. if you want an easily spotted “hit”, just buy some chemset -none and wear 4 or 5 drops of it uncovered to a local store. any will do. reactions will be easier or harder to judge based on your knowledge of any particular individuals personality/mood etc.

  1. the right amount appears to be directly related to how many different products you have received in your first order. if, for example, you only order one bottle of TUTH, one spray will do. if, however, you have ordered everything in the instant line, two or three putatives and some experimental test mixes, make sure to use at least two full sprays of everything. alternatively, you can take the longer not so easily practiced method of using each product solo in gradually increasing amounts until you get results consistent with the molecule that makes up the product. you can expect people to be chatty with A-nol for example, but how chatty is too chatty for you depends in large part on you and the circumstances you are in or hope to be in.

  2. this one is tricky. since we each have different body chemistry, we are each going to smell a bit different once we are wearing each product and also depending upon the environment we are wearing them in. you’re going to have to take some time and learn each product individually before you can make a statement that x+y+z=knocking boots. after trying x+y+z under the same circumstances with the same people, try it again with different people, then try it again in varying amounts. only once you get to the point of expecting certain reactions to each individual molecule will you be able to determine what your own personal sweet spot is and how it can be tailor made for the next outing. you might find for example that 2 sprays of instant openness does get people talking more but maybe once you add 2 sprays of Ammo or a spray of TUTH into the mix, you don’t really want them talking much more because you have something else on your mind so why not back off on the IO at that point to maybe 1 spray just to take the aggressive edge off of the -none product.

4)i am either reading your question wrong or i just plain don’t understant it. mystery boy is definetely not straight, putatives are not common and instant jerk is certainly intentionally offensive.

5)the answer is all of them. no seriously. just because a product advertises in your face sexual vibes like TUTH doesn’t mean it is the only one for sexxin up the ladies. IFM is a personal favorite of mine for that but it is sold as a “comforting” phero product “for that time of the month”. hell, i use it all month long and get consistently good vibes from the women in close proximity when i do, which i then convert into sexual activity without ever touching TUTH. it is up to you to be congruent with the products you are using, otherwise you might as well try your hand at the lottery. your chances of getting a raise while wearing A314 are much better when you act as if you deserve the respect of everyone in the office and honest answers are much more easily obtained when you wear Instant Honesty while having a legitimate heart to heart with someone rather than just dousing yourself in IH and stopping a random stranger and asking them for their social security number.

6)the mens forum is the place for you. there is no standard, we just show up and type away, getting feedback from others along the way. no one is going to come down on you for asking a question , we are all still learning what these things are capable of so i think it is safe to say that we all appreciate your feedback.

7)search the forums. you will find many different threads regarding most of them however it may be in your best interest to NOT know what they are suspected of doing prior to trying them so that you can observe and participate in your own unbiased testing. this may not work so well in an office environment where you may not want so much -none but should work well everywhere else.

8)just go to the store and see the left side-bar. it should show you which products are the most popular.

anyway, that was a long post and i am at work so i probably need to pretend i am working now. some of what i said was meant as a joke, other stuff i said was serious but it was all done in good fun, so take your time, try a few things and share your results with us in the men’s forum. good luck and have fun.

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you are really thinking about this. That is good. Josef answered your questions pretty well so I am not going to add a whole lot to what he said. Read the first thread in my signature block if you have not already.

What i will say is that with Josef’s answers remember the following:

Everyone is a little different both in your natural phero-signature and in personaltiy and behavior. This means a couple things: First, finding the right dose for each pheromone takes a litlle trial and error. We can give you ranges, but you will need to find your sweetspot for dosing through experimenting.

Second, some people are better than others at guaging people’s reactions. That means that some peoploe see the reactions to pheros more easily or quickly than others. A lot of people really have to learn to observe what is going on around them.

Third, everyone’s personaltiy is a little different so how you make the pheros work for you can be a little different for everyone. The trick is knowing what the pheros are “saying” to people, judging those reactions, and you behaving/speaking in a manner that backs up those signals and gets people to do what you want them to do.

So - to answer your first question - adding slightly to what Josef said - where is the best place to test products (as you pretty much covered the consumer line) really depends on your personal situation. Work can be good depending on your work environment. Are you constant in close proximity to people or do you work by yourself or in your own office? Is it your work indoors or out? Or is your work environment very stiff and formal or is it more relaxed?

One thing I will add is that resluts can dramatically vary with people who know you. Some people report very good reactions with people who know them well. Other people say that it takes a while before they notice reactions from people who know them well. We usually chalk that up to the fact that people who know you well already have you “pegged” as being a certain person or behaving a certain way and their conscious mind over-rides the new phero-sginature they receive at first. But if you keep it up and your behavior backs up (or is congruent) to the signature then they may start change how they see you.

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Thanks for some great answers. I posted summaries of the answers you’ve given under the questions in my original post at the top of this thread.

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Hello Captain, How ya doing ?

Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I see you have some summaries there, let me elaborate a little.

A314 ups your status, the best place to use it is work to see more clear reactions but it can be worn anywhere. Keep in mind some people are afraid to approach the alpha until you give cues that it alright like direct eye contact or a smile.

AMMO is good in any environment.

TUTH is good for sexual encounters. best used in a sexual environment.

The easiest one to see would depend again on the environment and what works best with your chemistry.

Typically reactions are subtle in nature. Increased… attention, body cues and language, socialization, flirting, Once in a while you get blatant sexual hits. Basically they just open the door for you, you still have to walk through the door and make the move on your own.

Slightly but once you find your dosage going beyond that alot will not make the hits stronger. Depending on what your using you can get the OD effect. The OD effect is diminished returns.

Yes its a range but not a large one. Take AMMO for example Your dosage may be 2 to 3 sprays. 1 may get you very very subtle results. 2 better , 3 even better, 4 back down to the results you got with 1 spray.

So 2 to 3 would be your range.

Yes you can use them together, No the results will have subtle differences. You can use one mone/mix to steer another in a certain direction.

Yes its best to pick one or two base mones and work around that with socials to get the results you desire for that day.

So if A314 is your base and you want to add a more friendly alpha vibe you would layer with IO.

If TUTH is your base and you want to increase the likelihood of getting “lucky” and making a connection with someone special you would layer with IH.

The IH steers the tuth from (Hi lets do the wild thing) to ( Lets make love) I know its a subtle difference but it can be the difference between getting lucky and going home alone.

All of them can help but some better then others for specific situations.

Job raise… A314, IG, Ishine

None of them will make a person tell the truth if they plan on lieing to you. IH will make them more likely to talk about deeper subjects and perhaps confess or confide in you more.

Attracting romantic interest…AMMO IG Ishine IH I cant say they will all be healthy though. Some may be unhealthy LOL :stuck_out_tongue:

Generate sexual interest TUTH, Raw Power, P83

Increase the likelihood she will act on it IFM

Ask questions in the mens forum or if you need more indepth help you can PM me or call steve.

Josef is correct, do a search, but testing blind is the best way to go so you know your reaction is true. These are products for the advanced users.

The other products that are popular are in the advanced section but I suggest you start with the consumer line and when you have those down if you want to participate in the testing of new molecules which is what the advanced section is about then move on to that. It does take some mone understanding and experience to use those products.

There I think that about covers it.

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

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Thank you Copycat, Josef, Bosshank and Tisha23 for your excellent answers! :slight_smile: If anyone has any different views, hearing them would be great. Thanks again!