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Not entirely sure how I wound up on the subject of pheromones, but after some “research” had decided there wasn’t enough evidence to prove either way, and some comments I read from scientists along the lines that “if it worked, you’d see it in alot more use” kinda closed the door for me.

I’ve recently broken up and am finding myself quite bored, and after searching for social groups in my city to consider getting involved in I somehow wound up at this website. My curiosity was picqued to the point that I’m now posting a greeting to this forum. I’m a little sceptical considering that the forum is hosted by the manufacturer, but the sheer volume of threads has convinced me to try an “experiment”.

I’m 32, an engineer, and a volunteer sports instructor. I workout regularly and it’s visually noticeable, but haven’t gotten rid of all the flab from my lazier days.

In a professional setting, work or sport, I don’t seem to have too much trouble getting people to do what I want. I do have issues with my boss, not other supervisors, and someone suggested that maybe he feels threatened. I don’t have much trouble in group settings, though sometimes I am over-sensitive to what people are thinking and my body language becomes awkward or weak.

I really have to work at being confident around (new) women, especially if I’m interested. I know I advertise my interest, which kills chances before you can even meet.

My objectives? a) More respect from my boss. b) make communicating with women more relaxing for both myself and them, perhaps encourage them to initiate dialogue or spark interest in them. I’m not necessarily interested on captilizing on it… but the attention would be nice. Sort of a chicken and the egg situation, you need confidence to get attention, but it’s hard to build when it’s not there.

In my opinion both of those could and should be resolved by learning the right attitude and social skills, but what the hell… this place has got me curious. What would you guys recommend?

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actually i just had a second thought. at work it’s actually very little effort at all to have people do what I want. I figured I just had the right balance of demonstrating authority, respect for their skills and being plain nice. There’s the few odd balls, all very high management. What if i’m lucky and have a natural pheremone. What if artificial pheremones wreak my balance and have a “OD”. Ah well. I’m not even sure if humans have pheremones, seems silly to think about it at this level.

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Hey there and welcome to the forum

I would suggest looking into the A314 for work, which should help with respect, and for being around women look into ammo, for the sexiness appeal, instant shine for confidence, and instant openness for helping create conversation.

Hope this helps!

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Hey there Lugh, welcome to the forums! I know what you mean about being skeptical, since i started off that way too. I had seen an ad in a magazine about that Athena 10x and was curious (not planning on buying, but just wondered if it actually worked or was a scam), so i got online and started browsing. I ended up in 2 other forums where alot of posts either read “post deleted” or “user banned,” which made me wonder what they said that wasnt allowed. Eventually i saw this forum and looked around, where people are allowed to say what they want (for the most part) and declare they DIDN’T get any hits with what they were using. That’s what convinced me to try it out… that and the $25 gift certificate.

You were right in that you produce a natural pheromone, since ALL humans produce them. What’s sold here are synthetic ones to amplify what you already produce. That’s why we can’t say “use 3 sprays every time” to every member, since we have no idea how much pheromone that user produces naturally. The best way to find out is start with one spray, check the results over 1-2 days, then move up to 2 sprays. Keep doing that until you find your personal sweet spot for that product.

So, as for your objectives, i would recommend A314, Instant Honesty, and Ammo. A314 is a product based on androsterone, which gives off that alpha male vibe that could help you deal with those higher up bosses. However, while it does create respect, it can also create distance between co-workers (since you’re the alpha, they’ll hold back and wait for you to initiate conversations), which is why it’s good to mix it with Instant Honesty. That does exactly what it says… helps create deeper conversations and promotes people saying what they’re really thinking. It’s best to spray this on the wrists, which will help keep IH from having as much of a self-effect on you. :wink:

As far as the club goes, Ammo is a great product, even as a stand alone. It’s a androstenone based product (sexual) that has been well-buffered with social pheromones (13 i believe) and even comes pre-mixed with its own cologne. Smells something like Irish Tweed, i’m told. The cover scent is needed since, well, -none smells like BO without one. :open_mouth: But it helps enhance social atmosphere while adding that spark of sexual tension. Also blends well with IH.

Hope you have fun experimenting! Cheers!

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Mr. Feel Good & MikeMan gave great advice there. I’d have to mimic the A314, IH, and Ammo recommendation. This should cover all the basis of what you’re wanting to accomplish. You may want to consider Instant Openess (great for those initial converstations) instead of the Honesty. It’s more of a chatty, social mix whereas Honesty is better for those deeper, more serious connection type of convos. Depending on how much you want to spend, another product to try is Instant Shine. It’s a great mood-lifter for both you and those around you and makes you really seem like the life of the party. I personally love the stuff and have considered a Shine bath once or twice :smiley:.

Once you get your products, be sure to try them one at a time until you get a good feel for what each one can do by itself, then start working on your combos. Otherwise, if you just spray a bunch on, and not get the results you were expecting, you’ll never know which product application to adjust. Of course, I don’t think there’s a user here who hasn’t done the “phero bath” at least once! LOL!

Yes. Exactly. Pheromones can’t do everything for you. They will merely enhance the vibe you’re already putting out there. Your actions still need to be congruent with your phero signature, and if it is…well, watch out world! Here comes lugh!

Good luck!

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Hi Lugh, welcome to the forum. Well, if you wreak your balance by wearing too many pheros, well, the worst case scenario is probably that you have a bad day, people treat you a bit weird (but will probably forget about it quickly as they will have a vague realization that their behavior was not rational), and you try something else, or less the next day. If you read the mens or womens forums, you will see that occasionally someone will have a bad experience with a particular mix, but I’ve never heard of someone having general widespread negative reactions.

There is a forum section for posting research abstracts. Or you could use scholar.google.com to find scientific papers on the subject.

good luck

xev

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Hello lugh, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Its OK to be skeptical, we are used to it. Its one of the reasons they give out the $25 as well as sell small to-go bottles. Androtics is very confident in there products.

That doesn’t happen, synthetic mones wash off. It has been proven that all mammels produce pheromones. Not by Androtics but by the scientific community. Its also been proven the some mones that we produce do signal others. Baby’s bond with there parents through mone signature. Copulins a female mone have been proven to raise a mans testosterone levels by 130%. They are very real. There are plenty of studies and abstracts in the section of the forum with that name. They are provided by members not by Androtics.

Please read “what mones can do and what they cant do” its in my signature below. This will give you a ideal on what to expect.

Best choices for your situation

A314, Ishine and AMMO

A314 will up your status and increase respect.

Ishine puts everyone in a great mood, Its warm charismatic uplifting. Its a better match with A314 then IH. Yes IH is a communication mone but its deep serious connecting. People already take you serious at work. You already have the alpha vibe going and want to increase that without becoming intimidating or overwhelming. You need something to lighten the A314 vibe not weigh it down which is why I suggest Ishine.

AMMO is sexy attractive mildly arousing and its a great well balanced all round product.

If you have any questions just ask, Your GC is on its way to your email

Have fun

Tisha