hi!

i’m j.
i’m a 24 year old queer intersex person from california… basically i’m a pretty cute twenty something androgynous kind of boyish looking person with a permanent light tan. :slight_smile:

i don’t tend to have any problems meeting people and getting dates, etc… that part is pretty easy for me, especially since i like men, women, transgender folks,etc… but what gender i’m most attracted at any given time to can vary a bit (though i do prefer non-straight people). i’m really starting to think my body always puts off pheromones that attract i’m folks of the gender i’m least attacted to at any given point in time. shrugs for example, say i want to date men and not very interested in women for a while, i’m surrounded by women who find me attractive… but then the second i’m like, hmm… i really want to date women for a while instead of men, suddenly they’re not interested and i’ll start getting hit on by men all the time. so something is a little off. i’ve tried some a couple pheromones with some effects.

*androstadienone seems to make nearly everyone really nice and affectionate towards me and tend to instantly want to help me even if i don’t know them (i live in an urban area where that’s weird)
*athena 10:13 (a friend had it)… it makes lesbians get all long-winded talkative on me (no, i don’t need to hear about ever ex you ever had) and straight men just act stupid and annoying (marriage proposals are bad pick ups) and i think makes me feel anxious (or maybe that has to do with the type of attention i get using it that i don’t get otherwise. heh)

i do like the idea that if i figure this out a bit better i can have some control over it… hence trying out pheromones again.

[note: oh, and this should go without saying but i’ve learned to say it anyway: please be respectful… no rude comments… i’m not a fetish object or a curiosity research project, etc… thanks.]

Hello Hanabi and welcome to the forum.

I would hope that everyone here is respectful and we certainly do try to maintain that here. The forum is lightly censored meaning if someone gets rude please say something to Mickaelia or Steve.

I am not really sure what you want to do with thepheros except maybe try to fix that timing issue whereby when you are interested in one sex you seem to attract the other.

I cannot talk to attracting guys - I am a straight male - but there are female products here called TAL and TAH. TAL is more of an aggressive sexual message and TAH is more laid back. Some of the ladies here liken the difference to angelina Jolie vs Marilyn Monroe.

Now as far as attracting girls I think something along the line of IG might suit you best. It gives off a smooth, calm, cool vibe.

after that you have the social products that you can wear anytime anywhere:

IO - helps you move along those intial chatty conversations.

IH - one of my favorites - helps generate feelings of connection and often leads to deeper discussions. this one can work very well with women.

IShine - makes the people around you feel happy to be near you.

If you have questions please ask - I and the others will be happy to help.

For female related questions you can send a PM to Bella or Tisha23 - both very experienced and helpful users here. Sillykitty is good also and pops in quite often.

Thanks… the advice was useful. And yes, it’s the possibility of fixing timing issue that makes me interested in trying pheromones again… probably should’ve been a bit more clear.

Hey Hanabi

Welcome to PT and an interesting adventure that surely awaits you.

I’ve not been around here long enough to comment on gay/trans mones users, but at some point I have read some threads posted by some gay guys & lesbians & questioning whether their sexuality will impact on their mone use/choices etc.

I guess either way, you’re gonna have to start off like the rest of us & test some socials like IS IO and IH, all great places to start for social communications, although each has a slightly different use/result.

Some of the guys here none it up when they wanna pick up girls, tone it down a tad when they wanna gain more respect/alpha status and the P series are as individual as you & I. Each to their own and I think it is safe to say, no one here will be as crass or ill mannered to discriminate against you based on your sexual preferences. And if they do, KICK their asses :smiley:

Welcome to pherotalk Hanabi!

As boss said everyone is respectful here.Of course, we have a few persons who come here trying to disrupt peace but they are dealt with.

No one is allowed to make you feel uncomfortable.

I am not 100% sure what product will work just for you but then again Steve is our pheromone expert and until you speak to him guess what the women and men section are full of experienced users who will be willing to guide you.

Your gc was issued!