I have a question for users of custom (“Advanced”) products from Androtics: does their high purity make them scentless?
For example, I ordered Androstenone 2mg (10mcg/spray) in the 30ml size (unscented), and cannot detect any of the characteristic effluvium. In Primal Instinct, NPA, etc., the smell is unmistakable.
Androstenone is a good acid test in this regard, though others I ordered were imperceptible as well (TAC, TAK, P80 and P91). Perhaps it is the very diluted concentration that masks each of the pheros’ scents, at 2mg per 30ml? The only detectable smell is alcohol.
It is just as well if they do not have an odor, but one must wonder whether the order was accidentally filled with lower quantities of pheros. Unlikely, but…
High purity doesn’t make pheromones scentless, infact it should make them smell the way they actually should. The reason you are not able to smell Androstenone in the custom mix is probably due to the lower concentration (0.067 mg/ml) compared to 0.5 mg/ml in PI and 0.48 mg/ml in NPA.
I suggest you spray some on your wrist and smell after drydown. If you can smell androstenone (many cannot) then you should be able to smell it this way.
Nbully, have you made any particular scent observations on the others: TAC, TAK, P80 or P91?
I recall Tacitus mentioning TAK as having a porcini mushroom aroma; yet, he was likely spraying from a 5ml ToGo bottle, and at higher mcg concentrations altogether - enough TO smell mushrooms.
I haven’t tried others except TAC. Mine was scented with neroli though and I didn’t notice any other smell. I remember Tacitus’ mushroom aroma reference regarding TAK. Do you notice something similar?
If you don’t notice any smell, don’t be discouraged by it. From what I know about Androtics and have learned from years of dealing with them is that quality is their foremost priority and they pay careful attention to dosing (since they were the first, and even now probably the only, company to actually start presenting the dosage per spray). So be assured that you are getting what they say on the bottle, no doubt about that!
I have unscented TAK. Out of the bottle, it smells like any other Experimone/unscented pheromone I have but upon application, it’ll be different. Certainly ‘feels’ different in the air. TAK is heavier feeling, kinda slick like, just washed mushrooms. I don’t know what Porcini mushrooms are supposed to smell like, but I did feel the ‘earthyness’ of it.
From those referred to, none exhibit any particular scent out of the bottle. The only distinguishing characteristic is the ‘alcohol’ in each smelling like ‘different alcohol’, somehow. Thus the concern for the bottles having been possibly under filled. Or at least being too diluted to tell.
Of course, ‘out of the bottle’ nor ‘smell’ are a proper phero gauge. But it was - initially - the absence of any scent from the Androstenone bottle that confounded things, in context of previous experiences with this phero. I then hard-snorted from this bottle, which produced no self-effect.
And so, in recalling Tacitus’ porcini mushroom reference, few users seem to report on these putatives (and TA-series) exhibiting any discernibly unique ‘effluvium’, contrasted to that which typically characterizes -none, -rone, the -nols, -dione and so forth. (Offhand, P79 would be one exception.)
Who besides Nbully and Phya have noticed olfactory singularities regarding P80, P91, TAC and/or TAK?
Just tried TAC. Can’t say that it had a distinct smell. I thought I smelled something, but it may have been something else floating in the air as I could only smell it once. TAF has no smell other than rubbing alcohol for me.
I smell nothing in TAK. There are a few other pheromones that smell like nothing too to me. WAGG. Androsterone and Androstenols definitely have a smell for me, as does androstenone, but as time passes it seems like I smell them less and less consciously. I don’t really smell copulins much anymore, I seem to feel it more than smell it- in fact the first thing I experience being around a big whiff of it is mild queasiness. As time passes I think my brain is blurring the conscious feeling/percieving thing into one experience. Very wierd.
BTW, interesting that you all mention porcini mushrooms as being a possible smell in TAK. This is how agarwood is sometimes described on perfumery sites, at least the good stuff. It smells ike a cross between a barn with manure in it, or porcini mushrooms- that’s the description I have heard. The lower quality agarwood is described as having a vetiver/patchouli/sandalwood smell. I haven’t tried agarwood yet but I’ve ordered some synthetic accord of black agarwood and also a few cheaper, cultivated natural ones to try out (the really “good” stuff actually some people find foul smelling in high concentrations, and per ounce it is more expensive than gold). Agarwood has religious uses and is also considered an aphrodisiac of sorts.
P80 definitely smelled strange or at least ‘heavy’ at high dosages (10 mcg+). I’m not good at describing smells but it is one putative that needs to be covered IMHO…
