So I was reading around and noticed a few threads stating how too much Ammo can have a negative effect. I was wondering, can Ammo make you “the creepy” guy?
I think it’s all in your game. AMMO is a social/sexy attraction mix… So imagine these two scenarios.
A) You’re wearing a casual smile, and a casual stance next to the bar, sipping on a draft of a local craft beer. A girl approaches you, she smiles and introduces herself, you return the favor, and ask if you could buy her a drink.
or
B) You’re standing off in the corner by an empty bar stool, staring off into the crowd of people, eyes undressing every girl that walks by, with your bottle of bud light permanently attached to your lips.
Mones help nudge the situation in the right direction. It’s up to you to lay the proper groundwork first.
Ammo is well balanced to begin with, so the creepy effect is much more difficult to attain. Its usually very young guys around co-aged guys/gals who report this with Ammo, by 23 you should be able to use it pretty freely - unless most of your targets are teenagers.
If you sweet spot properly, this will not be a problem as you would probably have to wear a massive OD of it in a totally inappropriate environment and be surly, silent/staring, clingy or make highly inappropriate conversation.
Creeping people out is really much more of a problem with very overt androstenone - TUTH, IJ, NPA, plain none and the like.
So basically don’t be creepy and it will all be good lol
This, and don’t overdo it on the -none.
I’ve heard wearing too much is akin to walking around with your junk hanging out.
I’ve used up to 3 sprays at work and only had positive feedback from both female and male coworkers. Though I wore some Beta Nol today for the first time and they openly said I was wearing too strong cologne this morning lol. Same Ammo I wear everyday around them. (To which they said really enjoy of I guess in moderate amounts)
I actually used 3 sprays today and had great results. Also used some IS and P103 and surprisingly all of my hits were from older women(40+). They were acting like schoolgirls around me and every time I came near they’re face turned red and got all flustered. One even wanted to introduce me to her daughter lol
Same happened to me last night. 3 sprays AMMO, TAC, and p83. 50’s something walked right up to me and asked if I would come meet her daughter. Kinda creepy in its own right, i feel… especially since both were hanging out and drinking at a dive bar…
Still. A nice Hit!
I can image the convo…“hey mom come be my wingman tonight!”
Oh almost forgot! On of the younger girls that works with me, 21 I think, wouldn’t leave me alone today. Started rubbing her ass on me and followed me out for a smoke. I just gotta say I’m convinced there’s something to these products. Was extremely skeptical and I was having serious buyers remorse after dropping $60 on these but now im thinking about what to try next.
Now under certain circumstances I wouldn’t mind a Mom breaking the ice for her daughter, but it all depends on how the two come off. This Mom was a bit inebriated and more than a bit trashy, besides that I couldn’t understand a word she was saying. It took her three tries before I knew she was referring to her daughter!
Any game or attitude that gets you chasing women, eye fucking every woman in a bar or on the street, constantly initiating with a woman, basically constantly being the aggressor and not the PRIZE will get you a creepy vibe.
I find my success number closing etc with the best looking provincial models I’ve had success with was on days I wore NO mones.. You see my natural mones are mostly none, and I’m laid back and look like I don’t give a fuck in my facial expression ,whether or not I’m interested in scoring so these beauties come after me.
Soon as I go out with mones, and start talking more because they make me and others gab my image goes down the toilet.
In all reality My best success with scoring with women has always come with good clothes, brand new car, fresh shower, good hairstyle, great shaped body, CLEAR presence of mind, and cool and calm laid back personality, a man who only says what necessary and nothing more, and NO USE OF MONES.
50% of the time I’m further BEHIND when using mones.. Don’t know why..I’m bipolar that could be why they cause so much trouble. I’ve been experimenting with them for 18 years on and off. I’m 43 can’t possibly be ODing easily these days.
Quite frankly when you dont’ have mones you know you have to count on your game and nothing else. That makes you work harder!
This is provided your body produces enough NATURAL mones. My natural mone signature comes off as friendly and sexy yet my facial look comes across as "he doesn’t give a fuck about me ", and my personality comes across as an active listener , not a bragger, and a sweet guy whose not going to date rape you ladies. This automatically attracts women who are used to be CHASED by men and are sick of it. These are usually the hottest women!
why have you continued to use mones for so long if they work against you so much?
Over the past 3 months my success has increased again as I’m on HRT. Bodies getting back to wear it was 15 years ago, and other areas in my life are better now than then.
Before HRT I relied on mones because my test levels were always so low. I tried every supplement in the world to increase natural test but to no avail. I was diagnosed with test levels below lowest end of the normal range and put on Androgel therapy.
I am going in for a testosterone test in Oct, and will probably need to increase it some more, but for some reason it feels like I am going back to myself of 15 years ago.
Secondly, I am coming of a drug called clonazapem which is for anxiety and panic attacks. That drug although aiding these problems caused a lot of sedation and cognitive decline. My short term memory was impacted on this drug.. I could not think straight.. I turned to every self help product and mone there is and continued to believe they are my only hope of giving me an edge since doctors refused to let me taper this drug for over a dozen years.
Now that my test levels are coming back to normal, my mind clearer to think and off the drugs, put on 15 lbs of LBM and waist 4 inches smaller, I’ve had more confidence leading to success building up to a date with a very good 10/10 model again. Perhaps it was just a change in my OUTLOOK, but these things caused the change.
Still I don’t attribute my recent success to direct physical improvement or more mental confidence, its the testosterone therapy and less drugs in me having this effect on the results.
But for some reason when I add in mones (especially high none ones) I get those cognitive problems hours after application dies, sometimes bad anxiety, depression and inability to focus. Perhaps I can SENSE these negatives moreso now that I am on less drugs although perhaps they’ve always been there.
I would like to use mones, often and do think they help , but lately they’re causing problems for me. I may just need a break till my system adjusts to the hormonal and drug changes. After all mones deplete the neurotransmitters in the brain and my levels may already be low.
My BEST success with hot women have been early in the mornings 7 am to 2 pm without mones when my mind is freshest and my test levels highest.
I don’t believe after such a short recovery I will sleep with this model, but I’ve kissed her. On the other hand I’ve approached 6’s and 7’s and got flat out rejected every time.. i don’t know why. Perhaps I’m more impatient around them as I know I can get physical faster, and that scares them off.. In other words I become the creepy guy around 6’s and 7’s. Around 10’s I know sex wont’ come easy for me so I automatically stay aloof , initiate then back off.. I had known this girl for 9 months but recently asked her out.. Perhaps she is sick of the great looking guys who just want to sleep with women and sees me as ltr material , and I came around at the right time.. Who knows it could be luck… seem to be having more of that lately. Even without any mones. 
I’m guessing you need to recalibrate your
mone dosages.
You need to remember not to be swayed by a small sample size, also be aware
of recency bias- these seem to plague you quite a bit.