How to think about pheremones' effects

Now that I’ve been using SmartMones for over a year, I’m writing the intro post that I wish had been there for me to read when I got started. There are some other great posts about what the different pheromones and combos do, so I won’t go into that here. Instead I want to talk about setting realistic expectations and using pheromones for the best results.

First off, pheromones work. Just accept it. They do not, however, work as obviously and clearly as a hammer on a nail. (More on how they work in a bit.)

Second off, pheromones are usually subtle. When they have powerful effects, they effect people’s emotions and feelings in a way that anyone out of Junior High School has learned to hide. You have to really be looking “behind the mask” to see many of the effects.

Third, people respond differently. Men and women have big, obvious differences, and every individual has their own different response, just like everything else. Imagine the varied reactions you’d get if you asked every person you saw in a day “can I have a hug?” Those are the same kinds of variations you might get in response to the pheromones you’re wearing.

Fourth, more is not better. More is just different. Think about how alcohol or caffeine work. A low dose provides a really different experience than a high dose, overdoses are no fun, and so on. Again, pheromones are like that. Most of the Androtics Direct products are designed to be used with one or two drops or sprays. Stick with that until you get how that works.

Fifth, more is not better. Every pheromone is a message to the subconscious. Too many messages and they just turn into noise. Don’t try mixing pheromones until you know how each one works individually and how powerful each one is. Start with one pre-mixed formula, then try another pre-mixed, then try a third before you start blending.

I now think of pheromones in two ways. Mostly I think of them as mood music. You know the effect music has on setting the mood. You know you have to pick the music carefully, have the right volume, and have everything else going too if you want to set the right mood. Playing Barry White in a busy grocery store is not going to make customers start getting busy with each other in the aisles, but in your bedroom, with soft sheets and candlelight, it can be a big help if the music is not too loud and not too soft. And just as bringing a girl you just met into your bedroom with Barry White and candlelight might freak her out and send her running, so too can bringing a too strongly sexual vibe via pheromones.

The other way I think about pheromones is as clothing. Just as I’d wear different clothes to the beach than to the office, I’d wear different pheromones. And just as I’d carefully put together an outfit for a night on the town, considering how the individual pieces work together, so would I be careful of how I blend pheromones if I’m blending. You don’t want one piece to be too loud or too subtle. You don’t want to wear a jacket with flip-flops. When you wear a jacket over a t-shirt you’re projecting something different than when you wear a jacket and tie. Have the same level of awareness of what you’re doing mixing pheromones before you go mixing. You don’t want to be a pheromone fashion disaster.

In both cases, what you are doing with music or clothing is projecting an image and setting a tone that it is up to the other person to react to. They may like it and let themselves go with it. They may hate it and want to get away from it. They may fight it. The biggest difference with pheromones is that they won’t consciously understand what’s causing their reaction the way they would if it were music or your clothes. Usually that will make people more receptive, since they’ll think their reaction is coming spontaneously from within them, but sometimes it will make people more resistant, because they won’t understand why they feel the way they feel and it will scare them.

Phereomones are not overpowering. They are not commands. They are subtle suggestions.

The best way to get started understanding all of this is to simply use them on yourself. Take a detailed mental inventory of how you are feeling and write it down. Put some pheromones on where you’ll smell them. (I put them on my wrists to get about the same dosing other people would get. You could put a smaller amount on you chin but I’ve found it’s usually too much.) Wait 15 minutes and take another inventory of how you are feeling. Notice what’s changed.

You probably won’t notice a dramatic change. You might not even be able to put into words the subtle change you feel. You might notice more what you’re feeling less of: less anxious, less focused, less needy…

If you don’t notice any shift at all, most likely you’re either not looking carefully enough or you just expecting too much. Try the experiment this way:

Find a picture of someone you know but feel fairly neutral about. Someone you know to say hello to but not more than that. If you don’t have one handy, go out and take a photo of someone who works someplace you go often, like a cafe or bar or shop. The photo should be of them in a fairly neutral pose. A little smile is OK, but nothing big. Now, look at the photo and ask yourself how do you feel about this person. Should be fairly neutral (if not, find another photo). Put the photo away and put on some pheromones. Wait 15 minutes. Now look at the photo and ask yourself how you feel about this person. You’ll start to have some inklings of feelings. Write them down. Those are the pheromones talking.

Remember, pheromones are just one added tool for your social toolbox. They’re a good tool and you’ll be glad to have them, but they’re not a substitute for dressing well, being well groomed, having conversational skills, and so on. Enjoy them, play around with them, and share with us what you discover.

-kSage

Fantastic read! I knew you were a wise one.
Reps. for a great report.

Good report!.

Good point, no Pheromones or cologne are a substitute for general good hygiene.

That’s a great post. Reps for sure.

The picture idea is great, will try it tommorow.

Awesome post! Reps!

Awesome Report - Reps!

This is a great post. I wish I had read something like this when I first joined.

Bravo! I agree 100%

I like the tip on writing your feelings down. I think this should be a sticky. +1

I like these ones best, they are exactly right.

great observations after a year of using pheromones!! great post … reps

I just joined and I would have to say that helped me understand alot of what all this is about!

quality post. a must read for all inexperienced users. reps

Hey. Many thanks for some wise words to us noobs. I’m still waiting for my first order to come through (damn PayPal and their incredibly slow e-cheque system), but I’ve been reading these forums every day since my order and this is exactly the kind of stuff I’ve bee looking for.

Cheers from England! :slight_smile:

All right! Well said, good advice.

Yeah, this is an excellent post, reps. I am finding very interesting insights into the human condition, with myself and others, daily with phero use.

I’m very new to pheromones, and I am certainly glad that I read this post.
It gives me a good idea of how to start using them, and not to have high expectations. I do realize that pheromones alone will need support from my personal makeup. That makes total sense. This is a really outstanding post. Thank you so much. I get a feeling that this information is a very firm foundation for working with the products.

Is there a way to cross-post this to the women’s group? Or maybe this should go as a sticky in introductions.

Great post, Actually if the newbies are doing there homework and at least reading the stickies all of this is already explained in Steve’s

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106

Toilofdays Pheroboot camp also covers some of these aspects.

Renny’s Congruence? What's That?

You also have…

So the information is there for those who want to learn something and read it. I know they have tried to keep the posts limited in the sticky section in hopes that they will take the time to read them in each section of the forum and to not place redundant info in them. Its actually disappointing to see how many new members do not read the stickies. This is not to say your info is not good, its excellent but just in case link the post in your signature so people are more likely to see it when you post. This is what I did before I had any stickies which by the way were there when you joined. :wink:

Tisha

This is a great thread worthy of being a sticky. Trouble is we have too many stickies in the Men’s section. A lot of the ‘what works for:’ threads were written several years ago so some of the advice is redundant or out dated as the technology has moved forward. It would be nice to see new, revised versions of those threads.

I didnt say it wasnt worthy of being a sticky so please do not feel that is what I was impling. I think its excellent but its been covered. The posts I listed above are basically timeless when it comes to pheromones that is why they are listed there. The product line has not changed despite the out of stock items right now and new products are editted in periodically. This is why the what works for posts belonging to Jasmin are still there.

I do agree there are so many wonderful posts by members and I always wished there was another way to display them seperately in there own section. However it was not something they wanted to add to the forum and they want to keep the number of stickies down as to not crowd the page.

This dosent mean his post will not become one. Steve takes care of that. There are other sections of the forum it can be placed in. I was just pointing out that if it doesnt putting the link in his signature will ensure it doesnt get lost in this huge forum. Unfortunately either way 50% of the new people do not read the stickys.

Oh by the way I just nominated it for post of the week, dosent matter whn he posted it, so be sure to vote