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Hi there!

I’m a 23 year old male. I’ve got 4 years in the Army, and one in the oil field. I’m a frac hand. My background is in military intelligence, so pardon me if I don’t divulge too much information about myself. I like a small level of anonymity. I will tell you, however, that I am a huge grammar Nazi! It’s probably a fault, but I tend to pay a lot of attention to it. I recently ordered SoE and AV, but hadn’t gotten it yet. As per my small amount of research, I had read that that makes a good combo. According to some of the more experienced troops, SoE with just about anything is a pretty good bet.

My reason for getting into the pheromone scene is twofold: One, I’d like stronger social interactions and better chemistry with females in general. Two, there’s this girl I know that I have totally fallen for, and I want to make damn sure I don’t wind up in the friend zone!

Personally, I’m not expecting a miracle. I’d say I’m about average looks and have a type A personality. Clinically, though, I’ve got Low-T. I’m taking injections now for it, but it’s my understanding that those take tons of time to line out one’s testosterone levels. In the mean time, I’d like a little game booster.

Any questions, please ask. I’d love to hear back from every one and get to know y’all and what’s going on over here.

Thanks!

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Welcome to Pherotalk.

I don’t know AV (or do you mean AE?, which is good) but SOE is an excellent social product and a reasonable, if maybe slightly more serious alternative to the social product IO that is sold here. SOE’s oil base also means it lasts a good long time, although the roller application can make it a bit trickier to dose (think longer stripes rather than shorter :wink: )

For social improvement in your early 20s, I would suggest you look at:

Instant Shine - Happy/feelgood - goes well with many other products.

IH - Close/bonding/intimate helps “the moment” nicely esp IS/IH plus a sexual.

IG - Smooth/suave/smart and sociable status product - Makes a good impression without the sometimes overwhelming status of A314, which can be a bit much for younger ones - can be too serious, mature, not fun/cuddly and too “dad like” Women tend to tune-in to this one as they age, mid 20s seems to be the tipping point.

Ammo - Good all round sexual that can be used widely without the walking hardon vibe. If Summer Ammo is still on sale, that is also a very good one with a more laid back fun/social sexy vibe that is particularly good around younger ones. The scent is also far better IMO.

TUTH - much more overt sexual that is best kept for clubs/parties/raunchy places or with an established partner. Can backfire in polite/sedate company but is effectively moderated into something more usable with SOE, IH/IS (my favourite) and goes very well with IG for that status/sexual vibe. There certainly won’t be any friendzone issues with this!

If you have low test, IJ might be an option but I’d suggest getting to grips with TUTH and Ammo first as IJ’s very high none content makes it a right one to get to get used to and you need to be prepared to accept it will repel at least as many as it attracts - but when you find someone tuned-in to it, hang-on! :open_mouth: :smiley:

The “Killer Newbie Kit” might be a good potion to start off with:

Which gives you a togo of the entire consumer line at a healthy discount and the GC will also apply. That way you can try the lot to see what suits you best. :slight_smile:

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Great info, thanks! Perhaps I’ll elaborate a little more, too.

The girl I’m after like the “alpha male” type, and my problem is that I’m a wee bit over weight, which I still meet the army standard, but compared to other soldiers, it’s noticeable. She like 11B’s and Cav Scouts, which is where I get the idea that she like at Alpha male.

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Welcome, beergeek, to the mone forum!

Yes, frac hands are welcome as well as grammar Nazi’s. :slight_smile: I also haven’t heard of AV but SoE is a good mone product. I can see it working for your application.

I would highly recommend Summer Edition AMMO and IO for a strong manly vibe with a confidence boost that comes with that. That’s my take on SE AMMO. It’s easy for me to wear anytime.
If you’re going to be testing out the AD line, yes, I would suggest the togo’s in the Newbie Kit, which would have been great for me if it was around when I first started up on this forum.

Please, let us know how those mones fared for you!

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Oh my apologies. AV is “Aqua Vitae”. Thanks for the extra pointers and acceptance!!

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I had posted earlier but I don’t think it went through.

A little more back ground:
The female in question is very attracted to the alpha male type. I am a little over weight, but I still meet the army standard. It’s noticeable when compared to other soldiers though. But I’m totally head over heels for this chick.

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I’ve not used Aqua Vitae but from what I remember of what I’ve read, its a prety overt product. There are guys here who have more experience of it.

OK, if she shows a taste for alphas, then certainly put A314 on your try-out list. You get a spray version in the newbie kit but I advise the oil base for its more subtle, long lasting and natural effects which are great in wider social and professional areas. However the greater presence of spray does have value in dating/sexual activities. Pair that with some TUTH or your AV and you could be on a winner if you can back-up the signature. Some IH or the IH/IS combo in here will also broaden the trusting/bonding feel somewhat and help with shared experience and conversation that is easily steered into the very playful/sexual but TBH, if she responds, tha A314/overt sexual combo is a thing best kept simple. :slight_smile:

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My battle plan is as follows:

We go dancing sometimes (country), so even though its in a “club” setting, given the fact that we’d ride in the same car and be cheek to cheek while dancing, I feel as though that would be an appropriate scenario to test it. Maybe y’all could weigh in on a proper amount to use?

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Cars, dancing, clubs - all good scenarios.

I’m afraid we can’t tell you how much to use as there are significant individual/situational factors involved. This is where you do need to do the basic legwork to establish your best dose. Although I will say that your age suggests it will be smaller rather than larger.

Have a look at this thread - esp the “Finding your sweet spot” post:

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Being a 'gator I have a pretty extreme awareness of intrepersonal interactions.

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Welcome BeerGeek,

I can see why you came to us, the experts and normally I would be hmm this guy has a situation on his hands.

I mean you do but I know this forum and I have seen tougher situations like that with time, pheromones and expert tips and advice turn around

Lets see what we can do about yours

They already started but as you have guess the guys will take you under their wing , dissect the problem and operate leaving minimum scars

Gooood luck!

Your gc was issued!

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Well thanks! I certainly appreciate the advice and kind words I have received in such a short time!

Update: I ordered a “to-go” size bottle of 2.5 concentrate TUTH to compliment the AV and SoE.

Now, being an interrogator, I’m used of reviving requests for information which later become question in the booth, and those answers become actionable information. In order for y’all to get a better picture, and steer me in perhaps a precise direction, why don’t you ask me some questions about the aforementioned female. I’m really not too sure which details are absolutely important, which are helpful, and which are damning. So, ask what you think is important, and I’ll be able to paint a much more complete picture for you. Thanks!