Hi all,
I am a chinese from SEA. I’m not new to pheromones. I started my pheromones journey 2 years ago in LS website. Currently I have NPA, SOE, Aquagen, APC and PI and they are all from LS.
And recently I just found this forum and smartmones website. I’m so glad and feel excited. I just saw more choices and great products here, and going to add them into my phero arsenal.
Planned to get TUTH, IS, IO, AMMO, IH, A314, SP, P83, MX200 upon receiving my gift cert~
Hi Raym,
Welcome to the forum.
Its good to see you found the forum and have found some products you might like. There are alot of knowledgable people here so if you have any questions feel free to ask. It maybe required for you to tell us a bit more about yourself in order to quaify for the GC. Tell us about your personality, and what you wish to accomplish from the products.
Please let us know how the products work for you.
Again, Welcome
Welcome!
Of the products you have now, what has been your experience? Which do you like and why? Which don’t work for you?
If you tell us about your personality and how you relate to people, we may be able to give some interesting suggestions.
Hey Ray,
Welcome to the forum! It will be interesting to hear the perspective of a long term user from another neck of the woods for sure. I do hope that you find time to post your results when you start to play with the Androtics products.
Good Luck with it all!
Hellohello raym, welcome to the friendliest and most helpful community you’ll ever find 
Glad to meet another SE-asian!
Whereabouts are you from? 
Tell us a little more about your character, and how the pheromones you already have affect you (or don’t affect you!)
I’m pretty new here too, but with no phero-experience, so perhaps I can learn from you!
Have a great day!
Annabelle
wow, thanks for the welcoming messages~
I am 26 years old chinese with fair skin, a white-collar worker. My targets are those chinese girls around 20-30. My main problem is that I am a very quiet guy, and I talk less. I hope to attract those talkative girls to talk to me, so that I can start talking to them.
APC -> few of my female friends just compliment about the nice smell of it, but I didn’t notice any reaction that I expect from girls
PI -> I mixed it with SOE in an atomizer with 3:7 proportion, then have tried many times in public area, and restaurant, library, but to no avail, I didn’t notice any special reaction from any girls, not even a DIHL. And soon I got fed up and tend to OD, and mix it with NPA and SOE in great amount and the result was the same : (
Aquagen -> only used once or twice, don’t like its smell, the smell is too strong and got no result with it
SOE -> I know this works for many other people, it supposed to cause others feel good and feel relax to be with me if not wrong. But I have tried it for many many times (with PI, with NPA, and as a standalone), I didn’t notice any positive reaction from girls. those girls that don’t like to talk remain silent to me. I wonder why it doesn’t work on me.
just some additional points, I am actually good looking(above average, but not too good), 5ft 8".
Sometimes I can be talkative, and I do smile often. but overall I am quiet.
And I actually used the pheros correctly. I did a lot of research on how to use them, where to apply, and amount to apply. I also mix pheros accurately with proper mixing tools
Hi annabelle~
I am actually from Malaysia, nice to meet you here, : )
Hey Ray,
Sorry to hear that you haven’t had much hit from pheros. Being a quiet guy is quite hard to get hits, even your are using pheros. I would recommend you to learn approaching gals and initiate conversation with them first, as you may know, girl rarely approach a guy first, especially our asian gals (I am SEA as well from Cambodia), at first you might feel uncomfortable to do so, with little shy and afraid of rejection, but you will be improve from this.
Here at Smartmones, there are several HQ products that is suitable for various purpose. I have found that you already list some products to be purchase already. For your case, I would recommend you start with consumer product first before moving to the mixes and putatives:
Here are a few to get started with:
Ammo: increase your attractiveness and attention to the gal, also lightly arousing.
IO: is know as ice breaker pheros, as it make gal want to approach you, make conversation with u. It also increase fun chat and comfort.
Instant Shine: both your confident and charismatic charm.
Instant Honesty: deepen conversation and increase feeling of closeness & connection.
A314 is great for work place, though it might not so fit your target to get attraction from gals, as you said you are so quiet, and A314 can cause distancing and make you unapproachable. However if you learn to approach them first, it will be a great product to go for, as it give you an alpha vibe high classy guy that most gal want to date with.
Instant Gentleman can also be an alternative of A314, but it give you a cool alpha male vibe which is approachable.
Turn up the heat is not so good for your stage, it cause arousal. though it is good to have it as your arsenal.
I have no experience with the mixes and putatives, other master here might help u on that.
I know shipping cost does matter for all of us in SEA. So it is a great ideas to order what we might need all at once. Ohh, my order from LS is on the way as well , I bougt SOE, NPA, The Edge & A314 , hopefully it will arrive Tuesday. Let see how i can hit the world here 
have a great day.
You might try io and ih to get women talking to you. You still have to initiate the conversation though.
You could try ig for a capable masculine aura.
I do have a query, is my SOE equivalent to the Instant Shine or Instant Openness or Instant Honesty as for the effect wise?
I would say that is correct, but I have never used SOE, only have heard how it is similar to IO and IH. But they are different products, and you may get more help from either of them.
Also, I have heard that Asians have a harder time producing pheromones, and consequently, Asian pheromone users have been reporting to use very large amounts of pheromones in order to produce the same results a person of another race might need. You said you have followed accurately how to use the pheromones, but have you tried increasing the doses to the point of Over Dose? Sometimes, OD’ing can be the best way to find your limits and to find your comfort level. Perhaps you may have used too little? Can you tell use the highest dosage you tried consecutively with no response or no sign of an OD?
Yes, I can tell when I have ODed. Especially with my NPA, I can sense a smell similar to the body odour when I OD.
I am going out with a female friend now, going to apply some SOE + NPA, wish me luck
only the best of luck!!
SoE consists of 1 -rone and 4 -nol (alpha imo).
So it is more than IO (and even more than IH/CTTM2), maybe with little edge from IG to the mix imo.
I have not experienced the effect, I will try it when my shipment is arrived next week.
Welcome to Pherotalk Ray!
You seem very anxious to get your pheromones so you can try them out. I won’t delay you any further seeing you already received some great advice on the ones best suited for you.
Your GC is on it’s way!
thanks~ will make use of the GC
feeling excited to try the new products
Hi Ray,
I from across the causeway :-), but Chinese as well
I just started on pheromones about one month ago. Still trying to calibrate something that works on SEA girls. We can help each other along the way.
And Annabelle, nice to meet someone from the same region here