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Mat here, new to all this, but doing some reading on the subject. Want to try some of your products out. 45 years old, tall 6’5", 240lbs or so, with a deep voice, so tend to be intimidating to people of both sexes at times. Reasonably descent looking, not Tom Selleck per say, but not Jo-Jo the dog faced boy either. :smiley: Single, no kids, never married, mostly my choice, never met miss right, never looked that hard, lol. Never had a “type”, always been a fan of women in general, all shapes/sizes/haircolors/races.

I have always had issues, as I am not the “perky” type, as in, I don’t wander around smiling all the time, which tends to lead some that I am sort of the unapproachable type. Been told by many that on 1st meeting, I seem to be almost a bit gloomy, nothing could be further from the truth. Many times I have heard that once you get to know me, I’m one of those 'sweetest/nicest guy’s you ever meet types", but 1st impression is that either from my size or demeanor, people tend to be stand-offish, unsure how to take me.

So this is an interesting undertaking on my part, to see how some of your products may “soften” that initial impression I hear I tend to make. Course then the pendulum tends to swing completely to the other side as you get to know me, that being I then become the good friend, not the guy you want to date from a female perspective, as it may hurt the friendship/relationship. Been referred to by many friends since I was in my early 20’s as “every bodies Uncle Matt”, the guy who will help anyone do most anything anytime he can, or the guy who gives great advice when you need to talk to someone or about something etc. 1 friend refers to me as the “seemingly rough outer shell, with the marshmallow inside once you get to know me”.

Probably going a bit far on the intro part, but does say give a descent background for members to get an idea personality/background wise, so there you have it.

Looking forward to see how your advice and products may work on me. Might be of interest I work in a public relation type job, and have daily encounters of people of many diff. races, meaning from Asian < Chinese/Japanese/Tai/Vietnamese> to Canadian to Latino to Polish to German to African American, all in all I work with people from all over the world on a daily basis. Company I work for has 9K of employees, HR dept says we have employees from over 150 countries on payroll. Can you say diverse? And golden opportunities now and again? Add a estimated 20K plus on a daily basis customer base, with upwards of 40K on holidays and weekends, and well you get the idea. Run into a fair share of females of all types/ages daily.

Right enuff of my babbling, lol. Not known for short answers, if you hadn’t guessed. :open_mouth:

Mat

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Hi there,

Welcome to the forum.

You need Shine, IO, and AMMO.

Shine will make you and people around you in lighter mood.
IO will make you more approachable. People will want to talk to you. You will have more conversation with people.
AMMO will make the girls attracted to you. It can help to break away from the friend zone. It can also sexually attract girls.

Good luck

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Hey Mat!

Glad to see you joining us :slight_smile:

You say that you don’t walk around smiling a lot. Just as a social experiment, have you ever tried going out one night and smiling? Just having a mantra of, “I’m a happy positive person” could really change the way people perceive you when they meet you.

You said you’ve been doing some reading, then you may have come across the 90% you, 10% pheromones thing. Meaning, that just spraying them on isn’t going to change anything. A hobo in a suit is still a hobo. So, you’ll have to be a bit more congruent with your pheromones. So, if you’re wearing IO, be approachable. Smile, initiate contact with people.

As for my recommendations? I’d say stick with the socials for now to see how they are. IO would be really good for you, I think. You say you don’t have a problem getting into the deeper side of things, but it’s the approachability that’s getting you down. IO will make you seem more approachable (but remember, you need to be congruent with this! Spraying IO on and sitting in a corner and frowning won’t do you any good).

I OD’d on IO not too long ago, and just wanted to be the life of the party. A karaoke bar was a bit dead, but I was adamant enough to get it going and I wasn’t going to let anyone spoil my fun. Mind you, I did have people with stink breath leaning in to talk to my face when the music was loud. Still, was fun :slight_smile:

IG is also pretty good. It makes you seem like a guy who has it together. When I wear this, others tend to laugh more at jokes I make, and pay more attention to me. It is my favourite pheromone.

As for the smiling… ISHINE :smiley: This thing perks you and others around you up. It should have you smiling in no time :slight_smile:

As for strengths, I’d say go with 2X IO, and 2X ISHINE if you can spare it. ISHINE is very much a lather onto yourself kind of pheromone. You can’t really OD with it. IO, atleast for me, takes a bit to work. I have a 4X spray which I use, and it takes about three from that to get me going. With 2X, if you have a ridiculously high tolerance like me, you’ll be able to find it without going through your bottle in a week :slight_smile:

AMMO could also be a good choice. I have 3/4 of a bottle, but it’s in the old scent which I find kind of precious since it’s not available anymore, so I don’t use it that often. AMMO is a well-buffered sexual mix. It can be worn anywhere and will give a hint of sexuality without being overbearing. Might be worth looking into. It’s in the new FF22 scent now (though it may be sold out since it is rather popular).

Best of luck with everything! And if you have time, do take a look at Ladder Wiki - Free Relationship Advice and Dating Tips for Men . It is a great website that has a lot of valuable information, and could give you a new perspective on things in terms of chatting ladies up. Or even interacting with guys (talking with guys is basically like flirting with them, though you avoid the touching, and replace the slight sexuality with vulgarity) :wink:

I hope that helps :smiley:

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Good advice above. Another possible choice for softening the impression you leave and making you more approachable is ig. I suggest you try that one out too.

You can get the small to-go sizes of products at first, and that way you can test several without breaking the budget. It helps to home in on the ones that really work for you.

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1st thanx to all who have already given advice. I found out something from a good female freind <married/35/causcasian>I didn’t know. I told her I described people’s perception of me as gloomy, and she said that is without a doubt the wrong word. Maybe this helps before her thoughts. I am a Pit Boss at a casino, have been for the last 10 years. We have very strict S.O.A. <standards of appearance> uniform wise, and I was part of the team that wrote/set up the standards.

She said the following:

I can remember the 1st day I met you like it was yesterday. I had just been hired as a dealer, and was sent to your pit, a nervous wreck. As soon as I walked in, you turned and looked at me, and the thought that hit me was that I was being violated, meaning the you looked right through me, almost like I was under a microscope, sort of boring your way right into my soul. I knew immediately I couldn’t lie or bullsh!t you, ever. There was an intensity, seriousness, maybe passion very few men have evoked in me in that first look that was unsettling. I just sort of felt frozen, powerless, I couldn’t even look away, then you smiled and said Howdy, and in that second I went from being completely off guard and uncomfortable to relaxed, knowing we would be friends for life.

So if I had to make a one word description of you on 1st meeting, I would say “intense”, or “serious”. Now that I know you, that would change to include “caring”, “giving”, “mischevious sense of humor”, “honest to a fault”. You have that uncanny ability to just look at someone with those big hazel eyes, and make them either very comfortable or very uncomfortable, depending on which is your goal. And you take people in at a glance, noticing every thing. One coworker describes you as “Holmseian”, another as “The Detective” you notice from head to toe every little detail from shoes to nails to clothing to jewlery, all while seemingly never looking anywhere but right into peoples eyes. If you ever learned how to use those eyes, that look you give, to your advantage, you would be unstoppable with females. I often wondered, as with your size and demeanor, you look like a police officer, if that wouldn’t have been a better career choice.

So go figure, although now I do get part of it, told you I was part of the team that put together the uniform standards, and I check my people for compliance daily, part of my job. So maybe gloomy was a bad choice of words, she seemed to think so.

M