all i gotta say is i got a shipment of ammo along wit a free turn up the heat and a shine. thanks for that by the way. and i must say this ammo stuff really does work. its funny to me cause i already didnt really have trouble gettin chicks. but now the advantage is almost unfair. lol i feel like im taking a test at school wit a cheat sheet. its great. i havent really tried turn up the heat yet tho cause ive been reading posts to learn as much about it as possible before i step up to that one.
the other thing i wanted to talk about is instant shine aka legal feel good crack in a bottle. ive been using this at work combined with ammo. i work in a resturant so i talk to new people all day every day. i gotta say that i can see the diffrence in the mood of my tables. they seem a lot friendlier towards me and my tips have increased because of it. i also see a lot of milfs that come in during the day with their kids and they tent to give me a lot of i would bang you stares lol.
so now what ive decided to do is test all of these other products ( i just made an order) and im gonna give detailed feedback everytime i go out. i am very happy i came across this forum and these products.
the first test im gonna go with i think should be fun. i just ordered ifm. another bottle of shine. honesty and openess. i had poseted before about gettin out of the friend zone combos now i go out with this girl about once a week so im gonna try diffrent combos to see what kind of reactions i get out of her. maybe i can help all the other guys that have friend zone posts. i just think it would be interseting to see what happens. cause in the end she really is a friend to me.( but if the chance came i would bang her and she knows it) so she is gonna be our labrat. and before i started hanging with her again i did dissapear from her life for a while and came back reinvented and she does notice it cause she told me i think that part has to be done no matter what. ok well i will be hanging with her either this monday or tuesday night my order should be in by then.
anyone got any ideas on what combos i should start with? with the main one being ammo since ive started with that already with her ?
hit me with any feedback or tips. i will be posting my results as ( friend zone tests )
i am still a noob so i hope the pros hit me wit some advice. thanks again guys. . one .
damn right lucky. Yo buddy, u wanna send me a pm sayin how u applied that stuff like detailed directions & stuff cause I got the same tools 'cept the magic & i havent got it quite right yet.
It’s not just the pheromones working for you. It’s you. A happy disposition and positive vibe is infectious even without pheromones. The pheromones intensify it and amp you up. Behaves like a feedback loop (if you’re a guitar player you’ll know what I mean).
I’ve never noticed anything too dramatic with the pheremones I tried (Perception gel). Mostly it seems like people treat you a little nicer and I notice my mood is a little more confident. I must be partially anosmic because to me the pheremones just smell vaguely musky, in between male cat urine and human sweat; not much smell really and nobody has ever commented on the smell itself.
Actually each type of mone has a distinct scent. For example, androstenol is very different than androstenone or cops. Perception didn’t do much for me, and I had both the spray and the gels. I seem to recall the main active mone was androstenol. Maybe the “time release” feature they claimed rendered the dose too mild. I enjoy a more in your face 'nol buzz from a strong non-buffered dose (think: 5 or 6 zaps of Spaceland)
I think Perception is a balanced formula, not too heavy in any of the major pheremones. I could only smell it in very large amounts (2 doses), and it smells vaguely like a little bit of body odor. I noticed people were a little bit more talkative around me, in an interested sort of way- people seemed to be more open and helpful than they usually were, and I noticed a slight elevation in my mood (a “cozy” feeling). I was more curious to see what would happen than trying to achieve any particular goals- I didn’t try to hit on women, but I might have noticed a few people being more friendly than usual and taking notice.
so jamesbonded you think i should go 2 shots of heat on her? what about the others i got. you think i should throw in some honesty and openess the get her a little open as well? i was also afraid to use turn up the heat cause it smelt a little funny to me lol
Here is my point, even if you already know her, she is your friend, and if she stricktly view u as only a friend for a long time, too much turn up the heat will confuse her and probably scare her
You’re right, Perception is a balanced formula in the same sense as Ammo and EA, albeit a weaker concentration. I just looked up the ratio at LS, and the ratio is: 1 androstenone:2 androstenol:1 androsterone. Although androstenol hogs the show a bit. My bottle developed gross little “floaters.” Don’t know what they were but I suspect a large bacterial colony. It’s the only product I know of that uses a water carrier rather than alcohol or oil. Plus, the atomizers leaked badly. Too bad it didn’t work at all for me.
As for turning a female friend into a lover or friend with benefits, take it really slow. Most likely it won’t work out and the ensuing awkward situation may cost your a friend. True friends are really hard to come by but can last a lifetime. Lovers are a dime a dozen and don’t last very long.
sounds like a mostly social mix? I refrigerate mine. It has plastic/polymers in it (which are water soluble- it does take soap though to get the smell completely gone), maybe that’s the floaters you saw seperating out. I also believe it has alcohol as it evaporates quickly. I’m planning to try some pheros without androstenone and see how it goes. Also I will try an androstenone product in isolation to try and see an intentional OD.
“Friend” is the wrong term. At this point I’m trying to elicit longer conversations from people- so I guess I want more friendly acquaintances.
Thanks for sharing Daedelus 
so don’t forget the social nol or ishine (taa) to balance out the androstenone aggressiveness!