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Are you doing drugs ROFL
This is the only statement you made that I agree with >>>>>
Older women do not lead boring lives.
Having a boring life has nothing to do with age. A boring life can happen at any age and its a choice. Also keep in mind what you find boring may be the most fun important fulfilling life in the world to someone else
Sex doesn’t go bad or become less exciting to us with age.
I dont know where you got this ideal. Sex usually gets better with older more experienced men They are more attentive, take there time and know what they are doing. They have learned some skills at this point. There are hormonal changes though which I will discuss below.
We dont change men, they grow up all on there own. Your confusing the fact that with age comes maturity. Yes women mature faster but men do get there all on there own. You cant change them into a mature person they just grow up.
We are not looking for an immature guy.
Why do older men attract to younger women. Because they are immature LOL No of course not. Its exactly the same for women. Immaturity is not the reason. Maybe more excitement but old married people can lead exciting lives as well. Again its choice and what kind of effort both partners are willing to invest in the relationship.
Its simple hormones and instinct.
As women age they become less fertile. This is why older men attract to younger women. They are fertile and yes age has not changed them visually yet. We all know men are more visual.
Men also become less fertile and begin to be visually different. The visual stuff doesn’t bother us to much.
For women ovulation slows and the level of certain hormones. For men testosterone lowers producing less androgens. The result in this lowering testosterone is less firm erections and less aggressive sexual behavior. Aggressiveness is a marker for high testosterone.
So its natural instinct for both sexes to attract to the most fertile younger person.
Preferences on visual attraction, maturity levels etc etc are just preferences and differ per individual not because of age.
Together these are what governs our attractions and choices.
This whole statement stunned me the most. Dump the baby… you have got to be kidding me. I don’t know many young men with this mind set let alone women. This is about values, responsibility and yes maturity but it doesn’t define young and old. Your opinion is a reflection of your character and values here. It shows your lack of maturity. Which is fine your still young but its not attractive at all. LOL
Just because all you want to do is party doesn’t mean thats what all young people want to do. True there is a high percentage of partying young people but life has a way of making you grow up. Being responsible for your actions does not mean life becomes less exciting. There are also many young people of both sexes that want more from life then partying. Who understand having responsiblity in life doesnt mean its over.
Tisha
Now that Tisha slapped you over the head with the very accurate womens opinion, how about a slightly older guy (21) who knows a little bit about HS, relationships with women (Old and young) and PUA text book materiel.
The first notion that older women live boring lives is false, far from it. It is best characterized more simply: Younger Women go out and party to discover what they want, older women know what they want so they do not need to go out to discover it.
This applies to men as well. Until you know who you are and what you want, you lie a faster pace life to discover it all.
Excitement and stimulation is fun to everyone, but the trick is to find happiness in the simplicities in life. Finding true joy in a child, Significant Other, occupation, ect is the purpose of life. A true passion to consume your time no matter how mundane. This is the secret to being happy.
After so long the party scene gets old, it loses its edge. It is not enough or it is too much. And you move on.
I am 21, but have a passion in my life. Working on that passion is fun to me, no matter how small. People call me mature because I can stay on task and not sleep for a couple days to get better, But I do not refer to this as maturity, I am on my path.
In PUA terms, I am on my path. I provide stability, I exude confidence with my passion, and have wealth in that area as well. That comes with maturity.
Women love mature men because it triggers attractive qualities for reproduction.
When I was a freshman I dated a junior. Was I mature? No. I dont consider myself mature now. For goodness sake, last night I went out with a buddy and bombed at a bar and went to eat. When eating two cute gals sit next to us, and their crazy-homeless-cat-lady mother sits next to them. My buddy and I decided to have a conversation about making it ‘hail’ on strippers and leaving bruise marks with our waitress. It was a messed up conversation.
That is not mature. But, it is fun. I have dated women my age, and early 30’s, every nationality but Albanian and Russian and every body type and height. Why do I do well? I have FUN, not mature, but am RESPONSIBLE.
I do not make others laugh, I make myself laugh. I am the party. I have a passion. I have desire. I work to reach my goals. This is attractive. When something goes wrong, I pony up and solve it, because I am Alpha and responsible.
Younger gals feel the same emotional triggers as older women, but older women realize what traits correctly go with the triggers. A beard as a freshmen may resemble maturity and stability, but in reality is a facade. An older women realizes this internally.
Women are women, people are people. It is how they look at the world which changes, and time brings experiences. Experiences change perception. This is the only difference between what women want in different age groups and demographics.
Back to the PUA thread, because I oh so love this topic.
99% of game is ROUTINE and OUTERGAME. Despite what they say. Inner game works like this for most PUA products:
- Affirmations of confidence.
2, Framing success as progress.
3, Using Routines to emulate true success.
4, Validation of success to boost confidence. - Ta-da, you have your inner game handled.
The more reference experience you have that is positive, the more self confidence you have, Your brain reminds you those habits are good, the more you do them the more you rationalize other habits are bad,. When you try an unsuccessful habit it acts as proof that the good habits are helpful to your well being, and they become automatic,. You increase your reference experiences on auto-pilot, and you become more confident.
You repeat this by going out, failing, and pushing on.
Routines, canned or created, give you the confidence to eventually not use them,. Catch-22. They also build confidence.
In fact, the few products that deal with inner game outside of positive affirmations, is hypnosis. One other product exists, but it is self help repeated in a frame of pick up. It is revolutionary for the genre, but not for self help.
One this this does not do it make you mature. Your true self, and all PUA generic material, works upon one key concept, be your best self. Your true self is not accurate, Be the you that you wish could be your representative.
Now, your ideal self, the true you, acts more mature. Why? What comes with maturity. Alpha, Status, Respect, ect, ect. It is great to be Mature in the correct context.
Now, is it you who wants to be this or a woman? Both. Only you can envoke that change on an internal level.
An older woman does not leave a man to find someone more carefree, you can be all those qualities and be mature, the difference is the weight and bitter reaction to life and its experiences. When bad things occur, or problems, most people cannot handle them. When a couple breaks up due to this, a person will often look for the opposite to try and find someone to fill the need of being carefree. Think of it as a rebound.
People attack negative stigmas and emotions of experiences and emotions to a person, and they embody them. So it you meet me IRL and someone robs you when we are together, you will associate that memory with me on some level.
Lets say in a relationship you lose your house, your partner takes on some of the blame. Life happens, and when you have two people who cant redirect and frame the negativity life offers in a new direction, relationships implode.
We, as people, then seek out the polar opposite. Older men seek out a younger woman, gets burned by her and goes after someone his own age. Just like women. They do this because rather than take responsibility for bad reactions in life they direct them at another person and look for something different, as different as possible.
I think my life experience is showing. Responsibility is not Maturity, women are attracted to both, but responsibility is more so. It is weather a woman can realize what she truly wants in a man. Men are much more shallow, we desire a woman who can bear children and nurture them. Women have an array of emotional triggers. A little food for thought, the bearded kid who had the confidence to approach the older girl looked older, and his confidence won her, not his maturity. Just an idea.
I like to throw in my two scents on this topic.
I am 20 years old and I still have much to experience in life. But maturity is only a small fraction to how attraction works. Maturity is based on your beliefs and the responsibilites you consider important in life.
Because of my upbringings, I knew I acted and respected myself differently than compared to my male peers in high school. In fact some teachers said I acted well beyond my years. Do you recall the saying, “He/She has an old spirit”? That saying usually is about a young person who doesn’t act their age. Yet when it comes down to relationships back in high school, I had ZERO. Why? Because back then I didn’t have that much self-confidence in myself as I do now. And people, especially girls and women, can sense that in a person. You can have all the maturity in the world, but if you don’t have confidence in yourself and believe in who you are, you’re going to attract very few people, if not no one at all.
I don’t know much about PUA stuffs because I don’t go to clubs or bars. But I will say this: In order to attract anyone from the opposite sex, you have to accept who you are as person, be confident in who you are, and be honest with yourself. That’s one thing I like about pheromones because of the fact that you still have to put in work in order to see the full benefits of pheromones. You’re not going to attract everyone because not everyone is attracted to the same traits and characteristics. But if you put yourself out there and enjoy the things you do in life, you’re bound to attract someone. Like KIMBA, I too have a passion in life and as long as I enjoy what I strive to do or make improvements to better my life, my life will speak volume and values to others around me.
Like I said I still have to experience life more, even grow up a bit. But don’t have your mind set that this is the only way to attract people or this is the only way women will like me. That’s one thing that is a problem with being a nice guy is that you look for approval. It’s ok to be a nice guy, but it’s never ok to let anyone and everyone walk all over you or kiss up to people. It took me a while to understand that. But once I understood and started to accept who I am and started getting a backbone, I started to attract people who were genuine, honest, and appreciated me for being myself and that included beautiful women. I can honestly say I love my life and will still love more to come.
Ok… cradle your either incredibly naive about women, or your just completely ignorant. What is old for you like 25? Lol anyway its true that most high school girls like older guys, thats the only thing you said that made any real sense.
Thats ok, we all have days when we cant express what it is we are meaning or feeling. We still luv ya 
There is something you need to know about age. I know men who are in there 50’s and act like they are 12 and boys who are 18 and are mature and responsible beyond there years. These traits are really not about age. They are about life experiences and character. The more life experiences you have the more your character grows. Don’t confuse maturity and age.
Oh and Casey Anthony is a sociopath. If girls are like that where you are move away now. LOL
Tisha
Well I guess that is just human nature… You have heard the saying. The grass is always seems greener on the other side of the fence.
The things we dont have always seem to look better then the things we have. The key to living a full exciting life is not having what you want, its wanting what you have.
Your theory with out all the… old boring unsatisfied shit is not far off. LOL
Life is about balance its what we all strive for because perfection is just an illusion and this is just people trying to find that balance between mature and immature. You can have responsible mature spontaneous fun all in one package. 
I would say its the complete opposite younger women are attracted to more social fun mones and older women are attracted to more status mones that’s my experience anyway.
Yeap, Kind of true. That is why I said A314 helps attract older women 30+. I think ammo is pretty good for young girls with IS and IO/IH. You can add p83 to add sensuality, since increasing -none attracts older girls