I Hit My X-Wife

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…………………. With a healthy dose of Turn Up The Heat.

As I have said in past posts, my ex-wife’s biggest reason for leaving our marriage was her not being attracted to me anymore. Over the past 3 months or so I have been steadily using pheros while she is around. Let me break here and clarify that she is not only my ex-wife, but she is also the mother of my beautiful daughter (in my avatar), and the best friend that I have in this world. Still! With that said, we spend a considerable amount of time together. She has dinner at my house at least 3 times a week, and hangs out sometimes during the day on weekends. Let me make it clear, there is no sex involved.

Now, I came up with an idea to try to make her eat the statement “I am just not sexually attracted to you anymore.” My idea was to use a small amount of pheros to begin with, and over time increase them, the theory being to re-establish an attraction that increased over time, and every once and a while load up to se how she reacted. By using a small amount in the beginning, I thought it really would not alter my original phero signature that much.

I transferred AMMO to an empty to-go bottle that I got, and started with one spray. I did the same with Instant Shine and IO. I timed everything by her menstrual cycle. 3 weeks of that mix, and when she started her period I would leave out the AMMO and just use the socials. When she was done I went to full sprays from the 30 ml bottle for AMMO and IO, and 2 sprays of IS. I did this for three more weeks. When it came time for her period, I again stopped the AMMO, and this time replaced it with IFM. After this period, I kept going with the mix from the month before adding in one spray of IFM right up to the day she ovulated. That day she came by for dinner and I had doubled up on everything but the IFM. 2X AMMO, 4X IS, 2X IO. I posted the results of this night at the end of the post below.

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Now, I really hadn’t tested my TUTH, but I just got tired of waiting for the right situation, (I mean really, I haven’t been anywhere near that situation in over 16 months) and I really wanted to see what would happen.

She was due to start her period in a few days so I thought what the hell, lets try it.
5:00 pm

1X AMMO
1X TUTH
1X IFM
2X IS
2X IO

She arrived at 5:15, I started cooking dinner. (Tai glass noodle salad) She sat at the counter bar drinking a hurricane I had made her, less than 3 ft from where I was working so she could talk to me and still keep an eye on my daughter in the living room. She was very fidgety. She started by like, picking at her nails, and over time I caught her lightly running her fingers over the tops of her forearms, and doing the same along the nape of her neck, and side of her face as she was talking. I have never noticed her do those things while talking in the past. I am pretty sure she had no idea she was doing it. I made her another drink and we sat and ate dinner with good dialog.

Alright, dinner is done. She brings my daughter upstairs for dunk time, (a bath) and I clean the kitchen. Great time to kick it up. 8:45 PM

2X TUTH from to-go
3X IH from to-go
1X IS 2X

I purposely had put a bunch of folded laundry on my love seat earlier in the day so the only place there was to sit was on the couch. My daughter got one third of the couch, and me and her took up the other 2/3. We could not have got any closer to each other. She had her hands on her legs and her thumb was rubbing the side of my leg. She had no idea she was doing it. She would start to scratch her head then run her nails through her hair and then rub her index finger over her lips. At times I would purposely touch her leg when we were talking about the show we were watching, and would put my hand on her knee each time I would get up to get a drink. I picked up my daughter and brought her upstairs for story and bed time.

I went back downstairs. I sat back down on the couch and within 3-4 min it all started happening again. She could not leave her hair alone. I look over and she is now sitting with her hands between her thighs with one of her legs bouncing. I am just sitting there watching TV thinking WOW, she never does this. At one point I glanced over and she was playing with her bra strap, then lightly rubbing the skin underneath. She did it for for at least 5 min in the area a few inches over from the top of her armpit. She then grabbed a pillow from the top of the couch and laid down with her legs behind me, hugging the pillow on top of her with the pillow covering her mid section. She lightly rubbed her middle finger back and forth on top of the pillow as she watched TV. I don’t know if that was anything or not.

She laid there for maybe 10 min. then suddenly said “I have to go”. I was said “what, the show still has 10 min left.” She said “Ya, I know but I really think I should be headed home now. Um, early day tomorrow and stuff” So I say “ok”. I walked her to my door. This I don’t understand. I go to give her a hug good bye, and she gives me a butt out hug. You know, one of those hugs thats like a bend over at the waist, and make sure the naughty areas are no where near each other kind of hug. She never does that. After all of those hits, and I get a butt out hug?:confused:

Anyway, I have no doubt she was feeling phero effects. She used a lot of body language, and did a lot of things that were uncharacteristic of her normal self. I can only imagine the effect of TUTH in a sexual situation.

This next 3 weeks I will bump up the AMMO to 2 to-go sprays and see how that works.

Thanks for reading.

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You’ve obviously done your homework.

The final hug was because she’s conflicted. She stated publicly her position, and now is confused because she’s rethinking it or feeling unexpected feelings.

It will be intersting to see what develops.

I suspect if she found out about your pheromones right now she might be irritated.

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Now that’s what I call phero devious. You’ve got the pheroscience down pat. I just don’t know if pheromones alone will break her. She sounds stubborn. :slight_smile:

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great report.

i think Ammo is the greatest men’s product they got,
and i have alot of them :wink:

i have to say,
the 1 spray of TUTH may have been a good idea.

TUTH in anything over 1 spray gives me anxiety.
im uncomfortable and jittery,
i have to move and im snippy for no good reason.

pairing it with 1 spray of Ammo may have been overboard for her,
two more sprays after that may have been too uncomfortable.

i know guys say they get away with much more,
but i have subjected women to the men i have sprayed with the men’s products and they can only tolerate so much 'none.

there is a threshold.

maybe your gal isnt 'none friendly?
im proof some girls arent.
i get anxiety attacks.

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You conniving, devious, sneaky… I love it!

She was getting seriously horny, having stated her position, she couldn’t go back on it but I’ll lay money that she is seriously considering it!

Nice report, looking forward to the next one!

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First, I think your post, and your experiment, is AWESOME! :smiley:

BUT… GweW has a point… If you do manage to get back with your ex, a serious discussion needs to happen… pretty much right away, explaining the hows and whys of the situation - WHY you ended up back in bed, etc. She’s clearly able to be sexually attracted to you. Her decision is ultimately going to be emotionally based - does she WANT to be with you sexually?

However, if you are chemically manipulating her into that feeling, and she finds out badly… danger, Will Robinson!

BTW - I totally thought this was going to be a -none rage post… was curious about the smiley next to the clicky too… :wink:

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ROTFLMAO.

This is great. Sliding into hilarious. Very good timing with the products. Knowing her cycle is definitely an advantage.

But you have heard the caveats:

Be careful bumping the 'none too high. If she goes into major irritation or anxiety all this groundwork will be lost.

Be careful about her rummaging around and finding your phero-stash. That could get ugly.

Good luck!!

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Hmmm… I know I react VERY well to TUTH and Cops. Makes me SUPER horny, w/out bitchyness. :smiley: It does that to other women here too.

Perhaps some formulation of that for you? ONE spray TUTH and some carefully placed cops (where to place?)… might do wonders!

(Isn’t that what Dirty is? I think I had Dirty and I/Jerk confused for a while…)

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the only problem is that he needs to figure out where she stands with 'none in general.

'none around me in anything higher than Ammo is
going to have me forever associate whoever wears it with ~hell~
and not in a good way.:smiley:

cops signal to another woman that he has been around.
as someone who has been with him before,
this could be great or it could backfire terribly.

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Very, very true. But, just another suggestion. It didn’t seem like she was over-noned from the posts… But it’s way too hard for any of us to tell from our keyboards. :slight_smile:

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I dont think she was over-noned. I had no tell tale signs of it. It looked to me that that she was turned on, but conflicted with it, if that makes any sense.

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That’s kind of what I thought from reading your post, but the others are very correct to look at it from ALL angles. :slight_smile:

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What a kick ass post :open_mouth:

I have to agree with that tigerlil said however. It’s great that you’re using these pheros to your advantages ( and getting some hilarious hits at that ), I don’t think if would solve the root of the issue you have with her… and pheros that almost unconsciously force her to be aroused would seem like cheating :roll_eyes:

Unless you’re doing it just to mess with her head, Tricksy ~ :stuck_out_tongue:

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I don’t know though. He said that they’re pretty much best friends and are still very much in contact with one another. If the trust is there and the friendship is there, and the only thing missing was a little heat, I wouldn’t really consider using pheros to be cheating. I don’t think they should be used as a cure for the problem, if Jesse has any intention of getting back with her, and I also think he should be working on other ways to keep her sexual attention that are more inherent in himself, or just on how he looks (new haircut, fitness, etc.), but I don’t see a problem with using pheros as a way to get things back in gear.

Good luck, Jesse!

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I don’t either, as long as there’s full disclosure. Getting back in the sack with TUTH will be great, and I hope he does it. But a full and complete conversation MUST follow, explaining, basically, “See! See! You CAN be attracted to me with this here spray!” From what follows after that, they can build up a sexual realtionship in addition to their already very close platonic relationship.

They’ve got an beautiful kid, so at some point it worked! :wink: There’s lots of people on the forums who come here for some help with their sex life in a LTR. IMHO, the most satisfied ones are the ones who use pheros in conjunction with open, honest conversations and connections with their SO’s.

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Now as far as using phero’s to put things on the right track, I’m totally down for that.
I’m afraid of her reaction when finding out, though. I hope this discussion really entails alot more understanding and communication. :slight_smile:

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As do I. I read your earlier post to mean that you thought using pheros at all might seemed wrong. Eventually, she should definitely be informed, but I think he might wait until he can find out why exactly she found him unattractive before and change those things. Perhaps then he could stop using them on her. Upon telling her, he could also point out that he hasn’t used them for weeks, or something similar, and yet she still found him attractive, so pheros certainly weren’t the deciding factor.

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3 sprays of TUTH is 7.5 mcg Androstenone, plus whatever amount is in AMMO. And if you have been wearing TUTH on other days, you also can count on build up. Even if she had been ovulating that day 7.5 mcg none is too much.

That much and I’d have been fidgety too. I’m not as surprised as you were at the butt out hug. That is a sign of pure tension and not in a good way - think anxiety attack.

Test this out. Put yourself up against the wall, try to remember exactly how she moved. Were her shoulders rolled inward? Where did her body touch yours? Was the hug fast, like she couldn’t break it fast enough? What about her eyes? Did she show any facial expression of desire or was it all about tension? How do you feel when you copy her stance in her hug? Do you feel turned on and conflicted or do you feel anxious?

The body can’t lie. Whatever it said was her true reaction, not a rationalization. If she was having an anxiety attack you overdid the -none.

Diane

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I think you’re playing with fire here, and I’ll tell you why.

Sex is NOT the problem. It’s what she felt comfortable TELLING you was the problem. There is more to it than that.

I think the sex is a symptom of the problem… and just putting pheros into the mix is only going to cause problems down the road.

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Ok, I am currently working on a lengthy reply to all of the things that have been brought up. But I am going to answer this one first. I did not see any anxiety at all . All I saw was a women who could not stop touching herself. In the beginning she picked at her nails then ran her fingers over very, touch sensitive areas. You know how like right after sex a man lightly runs his finger, almost tickling, up and down your arm in a sensual manner? That was what she was doing to her forearm, face and neck.

I sensed no tention at all. She could not have moved any closer to me. She did not try to make space between us, and she was unconsciously touching me.

As for the -none, I really dont think I overdid it. I may have, but I dont think so. I saw no signs of it. I had no build up. I was at sea for 3 days prior to this, and had not used any phero’s during that time. There was nearly 4 hours between the applications of -none. 5 mcg’s from the TUTH and AMMO at 5:00. And 2 to-go sprays of TUTH around 9:00. My personal opinion was she was very turned on and either didnt understand why, or was turned on and doing her best to fight the urge to act on it.