Not having any luck at all

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My initial order of Shine, Honesty, TUTH and Ammo (all to-gos) has proven to be completely fruitless.. anyone who read my intro will remember I was hoping to open what seems to be a closed door with my wife, who has little or no interest in sex anymore. I’m a gentleman who respects and loves his wife, I help a lot around the house to try and lighten her load, I don’t pressure for physical intimacy, and I try and engage in regular conversations beyond the daily grind, to prove to her I’m interested in her feelings, beliefs, and opinions. All this ever gets me is some hugs, and on a good night, a spooning to go to sleep. On average, we’re physically intimate once a month, and I was hoping that the pheromones would help trigger something either physically or psychologically to help increase this low frequency.

I followed the noob guide on starting light and working up to different variations of sprays, locations and mixes. I started with Ammo shared on the wrists, to one spray each, to various points on my neck/chest/nape etc at varying strengths. Started combining with Shine after 5 days, then a splash of Honesty to help her feel closer. The idea behind TUTH, if I understand correctly, is to convey the vibe that I’m in the mood and ready for action, which I think with me is a redundant signal.. She knows how high my sex drive is and that I’d happily follow her to the bedroom at nearly any time

I’ve worn various combinations of all four (throwing in TUTH as an additive to see if there’s any reaction), starting lightly and working my way up to double shots of all 4 at once.. NOTHING! No reaction that I’ve seen in the 3-4 weeks (I forget just when they arrived) of trying.

Not only that, but I’ve used 3 of the 4 to-go’s in light amounts to work (TUTH a couple times, just to see if there’s ANY reaction at all) as my cologne, and have not noticed one single IOI at all. I’ve worn it on transit, in long coffee shop lines, bank lines, around numerous women at work, and some social settings (no clubs, one pub) and haven’t experienced any of the reactions that I read about on these forums.. Nobody hanging around a little longer to chat more, no arms touches, hair flips, none of the subconcious signs of interest.

I’m not sure what to make of it all.. I haven’t been anti-social, hoping that the pheros would do all the work.. I’m more chatty myself, more social, more engaging than my usual self, but I’ve had less reaction than I had before I sprayed myself with any of this stuff. Either I’m doing something completely wrong, I have a vibe that tells women to back off that trumps anything I spray on myself, or Calgary women are immune. (it’s also possible that the cold of Calgary has everyone frozen :stuck_out_tongue:)

I like how it all smells, but it’s too expensive as just a cologne.. I might as well stick with the close-enough Tag spray for all the results I’m seeing.

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I’m going through a VERY similar problem myself. A lot of people here have given me some great advice, I recommend you look through my posts and read what they’ve said.

TUTH, I’m sorry to say, is probably not going to help in your situation. Shine has helped my wife become more talkative and improved my mood somewhat.

As far as pheromones go, I’d recommend Shine, Instant Honesty and Instant Openness, and highly recommend IFM.

However, the only thing that is truly going to help your situation is communication. Have you asked your wife why things have cooled down? Is she willing to talk to you about the problem?

If nothing else works, I recommend therapy. That’s the route I’m going now. There could be many underlying causes, from menopause (don’t know how old your wife is so it may not be an issue) to simple stress.

Going instantly for the combos was a mistake I made also. It’s quite possible that you’re OD’ing on pheromones, which will make people, including your wife, stand-offish. Try two sprays of Shine and two sprays of Honesty, around the head or neck area. What you need to do is talk about the situation and find the underlying cause. Make sure you let her know how much you still love her and how desirable she is. A lot of women start feeling like they’re not as attractive as they used to be, and end up “turning themselves off”.

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wow, well it happens to me too :frowning:,i am a dj, i live in California (LA area) im new here, so this is my first “reply”, i know i have to “play” around with the dosage…
i have turn up the heat and instant shine, plus instant honesty, which by the way smells so good :wink:, i just got my order last week, (thurday i think)
i went out, clubbing, mostly, even tried different variations with TUTH, IS, IH, don’t get me wrong i am not complaining abouth it, (i just order ammo & Instant Openness all to go)
still trust and i am pretty sure that pheromones works, but sadly i have not experience at all yet, hope to get some help :wink:
am i doing something wrong?
i followed everything, you know wrists, neck, behind the ears, chest…hope to get any help or advice
thank you in advance :wink:

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Awww man, I hate it when a guy follows all the right things and still doesn’t get anything.

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think it’s probably a combination of things. Here is a list of possibilities. I’ll list the ones I think are likely first because they are common or seem to fit from reading your other posts. You know yourself and can decide how close each one fits with your knowlege of yourself.

The Calgary weather. Gotta take this into account. Cold is no good for diffusion.

Male pattern blindness. We all have it to some extent. Is she or they throwing out signals and you’re just not picking them up.

Culture. Hey Calgarians have to be pretty darn stolid to live there. It may take more consistant exposure to break through the personal barriers than more touchy feely places. Don’t know that Calgary isn’t touchy feely but I figure it’s a possibility.

You aren’t using enough. We spend a lot of time cautioning younger guys especially about using too much and going slow. Less is better but too little is too little. You seem like the cautious type. Try 4-5 sprays of IH and those two glasses of wine next date night.

Tisha suggested IH and TUTH, have you tried this? How and what happened. It will probably take several uses around someone who is as used to you as your wife is.

Consistency. We say try each product for a week. It’s easy to get carried away looking for anything to give you one of those off the wall experiences we read about but the fact is those off the wall experiences are few and far between. Many of those reactions come from people who don’t have a lot of control over themselves or have their guard down already. Concentrating on one thing at a time and using pheromones to help push in one direction will yield better results than trying this and then trying that.

I truly hope there is something of service to you here. Give us a report on using IH and TUTH as Tisha suggested, include amounts, app points, activities. If she doesn’t see it and respond in a day or two shoot her a pm with a link to the post and ask her to take a look. Best to ya!

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Sound advice, also consider that she is very used to your natural sig by now, so edging into a new one slowly will be the most effective.

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I’ve used mones for over 5 years and ran the gamut from crazy nymphomaniacs to hostility to zip. BAsically my normal life with a little edge and extra spice tossed in. THe laws of the universe were not warped or did the rules of society blend to my will. As I studied and experimented I found combos that gave me fairly consistent desirable results. I also honed my acting skills and learned to work with the mones (rather than against them). Took a couple years years and a lot of wasted money to really nail it. I have a dresser top full of stuff that either didn’t work or gave me negative results. I certainly can’t wear anything and learned only to don what best complements my natural phero signature and persona.

With the above said, the only situation I’ve experienced where mones were consistently wimpy or ineffective was with close friends, family and lovers. They work great with causal acquaintances, work-mates, new friends and strangers. I suspect those I’m closest to figure they have me pegged and you’d have to part the sea and perform handstands to change their normative expectations. The only consistent exception was A1: it defeated PMS symptoms while around my my lover.

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Thanks everyone, there’s good info and while it’s not good to see there are others having trouble, it’s nice to know I’m not the only one not seeing results.

I’ll try the TUTH and IH this week, as I’m nearly out of Ammunition.. testing different strengths and points makes things run out quickly, I thought I’d have the most success with Ammo, so I expermented the most with it, starting with it alone, then with shots of Shine, or IH & TUTH, added in.

I figured the cold would affect things, so I’ve been trying to keep my applications inside, and stay outside as little as possible during the colder times. It was -15C this morning, fk me, spring is not sprung

txironhead, you’re quite right about communication.. We found out the hard way starting a couple years ago that there were communication barriers etc, but we’ve learned and moved on and talk a lot, but there’s no new ground to cover. I tell her everyday that I love her and that she’s beautiful & desireable (not just with the words, but with actions in a non-predatorial way :wink:)
Therapy is not far off I don’t think. we’re both 36 so hopefully it’s not menopause. She has a lot of stress going on with kids & life, and she feels guilt about not being sexually available to me, and that only compounds our situation and makes her feel worse to not have any desires and be unable to meet my needs .

Renny, big thanks, yours was a helpful post. I’ll try the doses you & tisha recommend, and see if there are any differences.

Gegogi, it’s cool to know that eventually it can be done, but unfortunately, I don’t lots of money to waste, I probably only tried smartmones out because of the $25 startup. We’re a family of four, two young kids, and I can’t go spending hundreds to experiment with pheros.. I’m currently debating the guarantee, to return what I’ve got for either a refund or a credit to something else. I had in mind perhaps a 2x Ammo, as it smells really good, but with no results from it, I’m not sure.

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If it really is an overload of stress, give her a spa day. If money’s short, it’s not a problem, shoot me a PM and I’ll tell you how to do a “home spa” for a fraction of what a normal spa would charge. Plus, it’s more fun, and could possibly lead to a little “steam” in the bedroom!

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hehe, yeah, been down that road.. done the spa thing.. seems as soon as she’s back, she’s right back down to business.. would love to hear the home spa ideas.. foot baths & rubs, back rubs, hand massages, all been done. and just so it’s clear, I love doing these things and I don’t do them for reward, but to be close and non-sexually intimate. I can’t file & paint nails though.. lol :cool:

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It seems that a woman will not be as responsive to pheros if she already knows your phero sig. To this end, my thoughts are that the absolute best thing you can do to generate new interest in a person who “has you pegged” is to change something about yourself to give them a focal point to notice that “something is different” about you, even if only subconsciously, and from there they may begin to change their perception about you.

Just some thoughts/ideas from my own experiences: change your hairstyle, work out more and get into better shape, start wearing nicer clothing and/or just show an interest in taking better care of yourself as a whole. All of these things could go a long way towards breaching the gap between what pheros do for you (10%) and what you need to do for yourself to generate renewed interest (90%).

All of this being said, I’m still a rookie phero user myself. But I’ve read the posts on these boards extensively and the above theme has hopped out to me again and again. Hope this helps. Good luck to you buddy.

-Pop1

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All good ideas.. over the past couple years, I’ve changed my style a bit to be a bit more business than casual, kept my hair cut instead of a mess, nicer clothes, shaved more, kept the hygiene up to snuff, all in an interest of being a better companion.. This stuff is just another building block in what seems to be a futile endeavour