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txironhead, 33, near Houston, TX

Just got my order of Turn Up the Heat and trial of Instant Shine. Tried the TUTH, the scent is great. As I am allergic (sinuses) to many of the colognes on the market, I was worried at first, but it didn’t bother me. Can’t really list experiences as I didn’t get out much yesterday, but based on the scent alone I like it. I’m going to try a spray of TUTH combined with a spray of Shine today and see what happens.

Oops, forgot to mention, in case it’s not obvious from the above post, MALE.

Looking for that last "pull"
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Hi there,

Welocme to the forum.

Let us help you with some recommendations. Please let us know what is your purpose of using pheromnes?

Whoa re your target?

Are you shy or outgoing?

Cheers

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Hi and welcome to the forum TxIronhead :smiley:

I see you’ve already ordered your first products eh? So what made you go for the ones you picked? What are you hoping to get out of using phero’s? Do you want to use them for mainly for general social situations, dating, improving things at home, work etc?

I would suggest you try and be patient, I know it’s hard, but try… Get used to each phero on it’s own first and find your sweet spot in terms of dosage, before you jump in and do combo’s… Otherwise it can be tricky to know what hits/effects to attribute each phero with :slight_smile:

Looking forward to hearing all about your phero adventures!

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hey! welcome :slight_smile:

it’s great that you are enjoying your scent!

pheros are really great to use other than for scent as well :wink: for turn up the heat, make sure u dont over do it since it could give off.. “that guy” vibe.. the dude whop tries too hard to get with girls.. at least i think. it is a great one to use in the bed room though, so keep that in mind!

instant shine is a great social :slight_smile:

welcome!

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My target is, basically, my wife. We’ve been together for ten years and recently things haven’t been going so great. She told me that while she still loves me, she’s just not really attracted to me. Physically, the only things that have changed about me are dental problems (which she swears does not bother her, and I’m slowly trying to remedy, but no insurance + low finances = long term project) and more gray hairs, but I dye my hair fairly regularly (back to the natural brown-black). Lately she’s been moody, almost depressed, but she refuses to see a psychiatrist to determine if she has depression because we don’t have the money. If she is depressed, then there’s not a lot I can do about it.

I’m basically trying to become attractive to her again, to be able to turn her on physically. I’m also exercising, taking more care with my grooming, etc.

As far as my personality, she’d describe me as a talker. I can meet a complete stranger and talk for an hour if we have something in common, especially if it’s motorcycles or tattoos. I’m equally comfortable talking to both sexes, but I’ve always seemed to be “the guy” that girls like to talk to. Unfortunately, “that guy” never seems to be able to get a date with those same girls.:confused: My longest relationship prior to my wife was six months. I truly believe that we are meant to be together, and I believe that this can be worked out. If nothing works and she does leave, I won’t turn stalker, but I honestly believe no one would ever make me as happy as she did.

My main self-doubt comes from my dental problems. I don’t have an Adonis body, but it’s not bad. 6’3", 185lbs, 33" waist. Endowment-wise, I’m satisfied, I don’t whip it out to compare to others but I’m a little better than “average”. As far as technique, I have a rule: I don’t finish unless she does, preferably multiple times. I highly enjoy foreplay and oral.

After reading more of the forum, I probably should have gone with Instant Female Magic, but they’re out of it anyway, and the trial of Shine that was included should help.

I’m open to suggestions, and thanks for the warm welcome!

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

A lot of guys come here trying to improve things at home. I am in my mid-40s and married 20+ years.

I will tell you that if there is a problem in the marriage with desire it usually has more to dowith the basic relationship and communication rather than just lust or desire.

There is a thread in my signature block for Married Guys. Give it a read. But the basic thing to pull from it is what I mentioned above plus the use of the social pheros - like Instant Shine. I would highly recommend Instant Honesty. A lot of guys try to brute force it with 'none (TUTH) but as I mentioned above because it seldom has to do solely with lack of desire you will often get more lieage out of the social products first.

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I agree with BS on IH and TUTH. Too bad IFM is out of stock.

IH will increase the closeness. SHe will talk more personal and deeper with you.

TUTH will turn her on. YOu will be sexually attractive to her. Hope this can spice up your sex life.

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Considering she really doesn’t want to talk about it at all, and admits that she feels guilty about how she’s treating me, you’re probably right. I do know that she’s always suffered from low self esteem (her mother’s the cause of that), maybe if we survive this I’ll introduce her to the female 'mones available here, or maybe buy some to mix in secretly with her Victoria’s Secret Amber Romance body spray she uses everyday. Something along the lines of Shine or some confidence boosters.

I just found out through SteveO that trial sizes are available for sale. I must have missed that when I was searching the site. I’ll definitely try to get at least a trial size of Honesty and A314, maybe I’ll wait to place the order until I can grab a bottle of IFM, too.

One major drawback I’ve discovered, I’m allergic (sinus headache) to large doses of IS. One spray didn’t bother me, but as I continued to apply (one quick spray every other hour as recommended) the headache came on. I’m allergic to a lot of colognes and perfumes, so it’s no surprise, just a disappointment. I hope one spray will be enough to get the job done. Maybe on a day that I’m outdoors mostly I’ll try to get to three sprays. The good news is that I don’t seem to have any adverse reaction to the TUTH (knock on wood).

I highly agree that good conversational skills are key to a lasting relationship, but what do you do when someone refuses to talk about it? I’ll keep up with the Shine, try to get some Honesty and IFM when it’s available to try and draw her out of her shell and hopefully see me and our relationship in a better light.

Also, what’s the best way to use the oils? Apparently some products are only available in oil form. And what seem to be the best places to apply Shine and TUTH? So far, I’ve stuck to wrists, chest and lower neck.

I honestly appreciate all of the help, support and encouragement I’ve received so far. It really helps in this dark time. Hopefully in a month or two I can report hot monkey sex that puts holes in our waterbed.:smiley:

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There is togo size for TUTH, Shine and IH but not for A314.
If she refuses to talk, IO may help. It can open her up and make her want to talk to you.
I am also allergic to Shine but it only last for 2 days. After that, no more sneezing.
Application point – wrist, neck, hair, arm, chest would be fine. Make sure you wash them off properly especially TUTH when you shower.

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I’ll try Shine for another day or two, see if I can get used to it. No sense in using the TUTH until that time of the month is over. I think I’ll look into some trial sizes of Honesty and Open. I really, really want some IFM now, since that seems to be the main one for making a woman comfortable. More guys (especially the ones that are on here just to try to get laid) should realize that THAT is the hardest part. Why do you think it’s easier to score with a drunk person? Their inhibitions are gone, and they are comfortable with the situation via chemical means. But what happens when they’re sober? This way, they are comfortable with you without the “oh crap what have I done” factor. Of course, if you’re a complete a**hole, taking a bath in the strongest 'mones on the planet won’t help you.

Wow, nearly hijacked my own thread :open_mouth:

Anyway, I know that just turning her on won’t solve all of our problems, and things do need to be talked out. However, right now she’s shut herself off when it comes to any kind of communication and most kinds of affection. I figure if I can get her to feel a spark of what we used to have it couldn’t hurt, a crack in the shell so to speak, and if she discovers that she can still find me attractive it may open the door to openly talking about the issues. I definitely need to try the Open, maybe with a little IFM when it’s back in stock. I may just try to continue using the Shine until the IFM is in stock and order it and the Open at the same time. We’ve always been truthful with each other, both of us realize that all it takes to ruin a relationship is a lie, so I might not need the Honesty as much. It’s getting her to talk at all that’s the hard part, so Open should be the best bet, with IFM to “smooth” things over. A nice hot bath with one of her Bath Bombs from Lush would probably help too. Or a milk and rose petal bath. I highly recommend either of those to any man who wants to impress his woman with his thoughtfulness. Less than ten bucks for either option, and women LOVE them.

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I see your already started with Ishine and TUTH. I do agree with James and think IH will do wonders. Not just for deeper more meaningful conversation but it adds a feeling of intimacy and connection.

IFM will be back but not for a while yet.

A314 is great but dosnt come in a to-go because its oil based.

Ishine works well to the head as well. You lose a lot of heat there so it aids in diffusion.

Dont use the anone product in the hair though.

Neck and chest for TUTH is great. You may want to spray to the neck and use your wrist to rub it up the jaw line. A lot of men have nice results with this method.

If you have questions just ask. Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha
Hostess

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Got the gift certificate, thanks! I’ll be using it to order Honesty and/or Open. Really wish the IFM would come back in stock, that seems to be a definite candidate for this situation.

Nice 'Stang in the signature, btw.

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Well, I’ve been using the Shine for a week now, 2-3 sprays an hour apart on chest, neck and wrists. Tried it in the hair once, made my eyes burn so quit trying that. The only difference I’ve noticed is she’s a bit more conversational about random things, but still closes off when sensitive subjects are approached.

Today I tried 2 sprays of Shine with 2 sprays of TUTH, since I figure she’s nearing the end of her period. Didn’t see any difference, really. I think I’ll stick to Shine for a couple more days, then switch to only TUTH to see if it makes any difference. I’ve been limiting the dose to max 3 sprays, I’ll start there and if necessary go to the 5 spray max.

I really, really wish I’d ordered the IFM first. I’ve decided to wait to place my next order until it comes in, and maybe a trial of Open or Honesty.