I need some mixing advice asap. No time and I recieved my first order!

Ok here’s the deal. I just recieved my first set a pharomones.

I applied
2 drops A314
2 1/2 sprays Instant Shine
3 sprays Akuto mx113

I went out a little bit ago and noticed very little effect on people. One guy at a coffee shop kept attempting to look at me and his wife walked over to him right after I showed up. Peoples thank you’s seemed more sincere. I also hung out with this girl I know and she almost called me hot twice (fruedian slip) she has a boyfriend. I think she was stoned too. Oh and my buddy Brett gave me less shit than usual, and was being rather nice (i hate the word nice, but it fits). OH! and I was at the pet shop with my dog. There were alot of females, but I didn’t get any responce at all except from the one who already has a crush on me and came to play with my dog.

I going to scrub all this off because i’m going to a bar tonight for a birthday party.

I want something a little more sexual
I was thinkging

4 drops a314 on forearms
4 sprays of mx113/akuto to my chest
perhaps skip instant shine or go heavy and put on 4-5 sprays.

I thought I may of OD’ed earlier so another thought was

1 a314
1-3 Instant shine
1-2 mx113

What do you guys think?

Good god, wow!

My immediate advice: stop overdosing and mixing randomly. Especially don’t mix in experimental products like MX113.

Think of these like colors. You’re mixing bunch of colors from the box together blindly, and you’re making brown.

Done with intent, that can be okay, if you want that. However, if you want to stand out, you usually want to go either very basic, or extremely symphonic. (you don’t appear to have enough product to do the latter). “In the middle” gets much more natural social results (less out of the ordinary/less spottable – i.e., better for working environments and such)

For now, just try one at a time, until you get to know each. It comes faster than you think, but you really have to take it slow at first. Within a month, you’ll have far more chops (and greater social acuity) than you do now.

Now, if you want something very sexual tonight… none of those are extremely sexual, really, although MX113 is sexual leaning.

A314 is more of a status pheromone, useful for creating trust and respect. Some polite distance, too. It can be sexy to many, especially higher end women or women looking to settle down, but Statue of David “ball outs” sexual it usually “ain’t”.

Shine is exciting and youthful. Good for first stage seduction if you’re at all into “game” dynamics. Even if you aren’t, comfort and excitement building is key to most early relationships of any type. Women tend to allow sexuality to enter into the picture after they first feel comfortable with you.

Out of what you have, you may wish to use MX113 alone tonight… and don’t use too much! Maybe a spray on each hand. Apply it in the middle of the get together, if you can, so you have a real time baseline to compare against. (“It’s like this now… okay… and I’ll go to the bathroom, spray this on.. there… and now it’s like getting to be like this” – watch effects over time, since most people are good at maintaining their composure in the short term)

For the bar scene, you might want to try something with higher androstenone if you have it, such as Turn Up The Heat.

Androstenone gets good responses from women who are “in heat”. Luckily, women tend to go out on the town to bars when they are, so you’re going exactly where there’s be the highest concentration of such ladies. With this, too, don’t overdose. The more androstenone you use, the higher the age bracket you tend to stir.

Also, location matters. You’ll see Thomas Lavoie on this forum get great results with androstenone, but keep in mind that he’s near Montreal… a very sexually open place. I’ve even heard it called one of the most sexually open areas in the world. What works well there, might be far too strong initially for a more conservative area.

Just noticed you’re from Indiana. Wasn’t there long, just a stayover, but I remember it being very outwardly conservative… with lots of pent up sexual aggression, especially from the college crowd. More “out there” out behaviour seen at night, once people had the excuse of being drunk in order to truly express what they desired. (something to “blame it on” tommorow) That’s just one night of observation long ago, though, so feel free to take it with a grain of salt. You always need to work within or around your local culture and social dynamics, however. Every place is different.

OK! Thanks

I thought I might be throwing pherimones at myself but I just wanted to see something, anything realy.

I do have alpha androstenone in the mail at 2.5 mcg/spray uncented. I have some blue lotus oil i’m going to mix with it.

So I’ll go with the 2 sprays of mx113 and see what happens.

Should I bring instant shine?

We are going to applebees and then to a little posh bar.

Well, the mx113 is in my pocket and I left the IS and A314 alone. :smiley:

Hopefully I end up like this dude with the glasses. :cool:

The best way to understand what’s happening is the best way to see what’s happening in all sociale situations – interaction… and then later on, the grapevine (what people say about you to their friends).

Tonight will be good, since it’s an actual function. Get in close and talk to people for awhile. Hopefully there’s no cigarette smoke competing for people’s noses in Indiana. That can hurt the perception of any other odor, incuding pheromones.

Sounds like it’ll be gorgeous!

Make sure you just mix a little of them together at first, to make sure the blue lotus dissolves.

Androstenone should serve you well if you go to snigles bars often.

Looks good.

Other people here may have recommendations, too. I make far too many mixes to be able to test them all as thoroughly as some of the users here have.

If I were to involve Instant Shine at all, I’d probably do the opposite… Shine first then MX113 later on. Shine at Applebees, which will be more congruent. It’s an upbeat sort of place. Then bring in MX113, which has a nice dark n’ sexy scent package. It’s a better match for a high end bar.

Be aware that there’s so little androstenone in MX113, that you could easily overwhelm it – at least temporarily – with the Instant Shine. That’s why I wouldn’t recommend MX113 then Shine.

Also, it’s probably cold in Indiana right now… make sure you apply to very warm, highly diffusve areas of skin to get the molecules out. The back of the hands is good, especially for men – we tend to have very warm hands. The back of the neck is excellent, too, because that’s where your so-called “brown fat” is that makes the bulk of the heat your body generates.

Basically, you want to spray this stuff as in broad strokes (so you apply a wide, thin layer of molecules) on the largest segment of air-exposed warm skin as possible. That’s the basic idea behind application spots.

I like hair application with some pheromones, too, but I never use the “darker pheromones” unless I have ready access to anti-androgen shampoo. Pheromones can remain bound to your hair for quite awhile, so “friendly is best” up there.

thank god someone said it.

DO NOT MIX MX113

If you do, use something like TAA OIL or A314 (to slow diffusion). There is no need to shower yourself with tons of other mones. When MX113 already has 5.

the point is, it’s a stand alone spray.

I dont get why people do the same thing with Ammo (like adding nols or -none) Its just a waste of mones and money.

Actually Ammo can mix well with several products. I add None to Ammo because even at 6 sprays it’s only 15 mcg’s of None and I can easily wear 20. I am 45 yrears old though and produce a lot less natural None than a young pup.

I also add Instant Shine or TAA because it just makes it a happier mix. Ammo 1.5 contained TAA but it’s no longer available. I also wear IFM with it, as I like the female comfort factor that it adds.

Lastly, adding CTTM 2 can make for a realy lively mix.

interesting. I naturally produce a lot of pheromones so I stay clear of showering myself. IMO AMMO doesnt need more -none, esp if you use it as an every day mix. Adding TAA wont hurt, because TAA is not in AMMO (from my understand) same goes for Instant Female Magic.

If I want more -none in my AMMO mix, I just spray more AMMO. I find that theres no reason to add Androstenol, because Androstenol was added to AMMO to buff the -none. which is why a lot of people wear Androstenol with their -none.

When I first came here, I dropped LOADS of money, I slowly began to learn how to manage my sprays, and be consistent with a mix I felt was ''Just Right"

btw. the mx series was created about 2 years ago, based on forum members ‘‘mixing experiments’’

alot of times, MHaris reads something like

1 spray 10mg -Alpha Androstenol
2 sprays 10mg TAH
3 sprays -none
1 spray TAF

and then incorporates that into a MX mix.

makes no sense to add

2 sprays MXxxx
1 spray 10mg -Alpha Androstenol
2 sprays 10mg TAH
3 sprays -none
1 spray TAF

might as well just double up on the spray and save money. perhaps buy something that is opposite of the mix or that is not actually in the mix to begin with…

technically speaking, you can probably had more -Androstenol, but I would suggest AT LEAST using a half a bottle AND THEN, adding to the mix.

Everyones body chemistry is different, and someone like me, would probably have to add a ‘light’ molecule like Androstenol. but not lots…maybe just 1 spray or something.

How can you possibly know the effects of AMMO if you mix it with loads of other stuff before testing it solo?

its like adding sugar to lucky charms lol. theres no need.

maybe you have an ultra sweet tooth. first taste it, if its not sweet enough, add a teaspoon of sugar. if its too sweet, add more milk. etc etc.

coming off the bat with …

4 sprays of AMMO
3 sprays of -none
3 sprays of -Androstenol
4 sprays of TAF

…thats absurd.

without knowing it, you just added 30 mgs of none, and 30 mgs of Androstenol. when in reality you could have just sprayed AMMO 4 more times. LOL.

I am 45 and naturally produce a lot less None than you. Therefore, adding None to Ammo is a given for me. TAA was in version 1.5, but that is no longer available.

When I wear Ammo I can only wear 4 sprays before the scent starts to become overwhelming, that’s why I add None separately.

What is the difference between using a product up twice as fast or using 2 products and getting just the right levels you’re looking for?

I think it all comes down to personal preference and the mad scientist element in us. I enjoy testing and tinkering and finding what works just right for me, instead of what works best for the overall majority. I barely touch the consumer products anymore, preferring to make my own mixes.

oh def. I experiment a lot. but not so much with MX’s or AMMO (all in one sprays). I add A314 OR TAA oil to MX113 for serveral reasons. MX113 is a friendly mix, if I want to make it ‘darker more commanding’ I add A314. also, it helps slow down diffusion. same with TAA oil.

If you really need more -none in your AMMO, you can always get AMMOx2. (you can multiple the strength of any product). you can even get AMMOx5 if you really wanted too. all with the benefits of the Androstenol buffers.

I agree about the scent being overwhelming. Im actually not a fan of AMMO. Its great for beginners who are trying to figure out a spray or what they like, but once youve been around the block, its easier to create your own All in one mix.

Theres a difference between modifying an all in one mix, and creating your own all in one mix.

Agreed. I have been playing with SteveO’s sex mix and absolutely love it, tried adding a bit of Rone thinking it could improve on it for me, but found it only dimished the impact.

Okay mixings gurus, tell me what i can make out of these bottles of magic.

Going to town this saturday and would love to have an instant result.

I have purchased the following bottles:

Ammunition
Honesty
Turn up the heat
Female magic

Any suggestions or previous successes to pass on.

Chat to you guys again real soon,:roll_eyes:

thanks

You can go with the Ammo, Instant Honesty and Instant Female Magic. Depending on your age, you could maybe add a bit of TUTH as well, but if you are younger then you’re gonna want to watch the Androstenone level.

Have your fun and phero baptism like we all do, and once that’s out of your system then test each individually for a week, vary dosing until you find your sweet spots for each, then start mixing and having fun.

You did pick up some truly excellent products, and I know you’re going to have a lot of fun.

And be sure to come back and tell us abut your phero fueled adventures.

is it wise to spray each of the potion on differnet parts of the body or all in one place???:open_mouth:

Either way is fine, but if you layer your pheros on top of wach other, it is best to let them dry down for 10 minutes or so between applications

Well the result of round one are in and …I’m not actually sure what the results were. :confused:

I was really mindful about over doing it so I went with two spray of the turn up the heat and waited for about 15 minutes before applying one spray of instant honesty.

One of the factors that I has added to the confusion is that I was meeting several friends at the pub and there was limited victims, sorry I mean females. But never the less after being in the pub for several minutes I did catch the eye of one girl looking towards me. She left shortly after with her very drunk boyfriend so I didn’t have the opportunity to further the passing eye.

As far as my friends went, well they were their normally cuddly self so again this has left me with a mixed result. I suppose I spend 3 hours in the pub.

Next time I may well do something slightly differently, firstly try not to confuse my mates girlfriends (poor things), secondly find a better venue and thirdly maybe go with a mate or by myself.

A mixed day to say the least. :cool:

Suggestions welcome.