mmm, maybe its you then? haha.
dang, I miss college… the big ones. should go back to UCI. >_>
How do you compare mx203 to some of your favorite combos or other MXs?
And damnit, want a job with mostly Asians… preferably hot… I can dream.
mmm, maybe its you then? haha.
dang, I miss college… the big ones. should go back to UCI. >_>
How do you compare mx203 to some of your favorite combos or other MXs?
And damnit, want a job with mostly Asians… preferably hot… I can dream.
Maybe it’s me as in..being able to wear mx203 around asians? Perhaps…Gegogi’s one of the few people who can shower in -none and get away with it. Tacitus..well last time I noticed, he was regularly bathing in pheromones, so yea..maybe it’s just me. Or maybe people can learn to use it around asians? I don’t know. I’m asian myself, maybe that might have something to do with it.
I can compare it to a few things. The most obvious comparison is to mx201. Same scent, minus the TAA and Alpha-nols. I can sense the difference in between the two of them. With p93, I didn’t feel strong self effects. I noticed my behavior shift, but it certainly doesn’t turn around like it might with IS. That playfulness is still there, and I attribute it to the p93.
It’s not anxious or butterflies in your stomach like p79. Definitely not like mx200 to me. I can’t pin down what exactly mx200 was like, but it’s not like mx203.
I can definitely say it’s relatively mellow. IS might be bright, but kind of sharp. Instant Honesty is smooth, and warm. mx203 is like mellow and chill. Not lukewarm, but lukechill? I guess it’s like that pool that’s just a touch colder than the air on a sunny ass day.
Okay guys, just got my order in!! That was quick. I was hella excited to get that bottle of TAF, I’ve been wanting to try it out for a while now. So it’s my lunch break, on my way back to work, I spray 3 sprays (15mcg) on my throat and 1 spray on my left wrist, huff it good once or thrice (that alcohol burns oh so good..), then spread it to my right wrist, and then kinda around my neck and face. I wanted good self effects. So that’s 60 mcgs, and I feel tingly. It was more of a rush at first, but then it kinda simmered down into a relaxed bubblyness. Like sitting in a champagne jacuzzi. Oh, it should be noted, however, that I took a few hits of the ganja during my break. But the bubblyness is different than being high. Trust me on that one, besides, I’ve been smoking this particular strain for a while now, so it’s not even that strong to me now, not to mention this strain isn’t the type to give you the bubbles…makes me wonder what it feels like after a couple drinks.
I’ll comment interaction with people later, it’s only been like 10 minutes. Not even.
I had a few okay nights, had some good hits, but nothing really that I wanted to talk about. With the new arrival, I’ve got plenty of new options to try out. TAF and TAK are the two that I’m interested in experimenting with. There seems to be a lot of interesting potential in TAF, and TAK sounds like it could use some more looking into. If I read correctly, TAK is another component in mx203, which is what distinguishes it from simply being mx201 and added a-nol, and taa. Also have p93 on its own to get a better feel of it, and to end it all p74 because it sounds great. Lots of combinations to start trying now. Goody.
Okay, piece. I’ll see yall later.
Just read through your journal, bro, and liking it very much. Lots of good info; hey, you have some p79 experience. The ladies sent me a 30mL bottle of 2.5mcg. I’ve been told it intensfies other pheros I might be wearing. Any opinion on your past use and what to expect?
Thanks, Charlie. Well, since the bottle just dropped in your lap, there’s not much you can do about the mcg/spray, but I have a bottle of 5mcg/spray and I find that on its own, I prefer around 20-30 mcgs, with other ingredients about 15mcg. But honestly, I haven’t pinpointed it down as much as I’d like yet. I’ll probably need to go through my whole bottle first.
Breaking new ground.
Alrighty.
So last night I tried something new. I sprayed 1 spray of TAF (15mu) on my throat, then 1 spray of IS (2x) over it. I know IS 2x feels slightly different than regular IS because it’s concentrated, but I think I’m beginning to understand how TAF can intensify things.
That was pretty straightforward in terms of interactions. Lots of friendly hugs, very enthusiastic and upbeat greets. I was talking to a hot girl I haven’t seen in a while. Asked her if her new bf was treating her better than her old one. She quickly clarified that she wasn’t dating him. Told me she felt so free now, she could do whatever she wanted. (Hmmmm…?
) Made a big point of that. But I guess I kinda lead her on that one..so who knows how genuine of a hit that might have been.
Another girl that I’ve known for a while tried to approach me a couple times, but I was being stupid and let my attention be grabbed by people coming and saying hi. She kinda just walked away when people were interrupting. I need to work on that. I don’t think that’s an effect of the pheros, I gotta work on being able to put the interaction on hold while still being present, quickly addressing the interjectors completely, but briefly, then resuming current interaction. It’s really a bad habit more than anything because I love multitasking and my attention isn’t always evenly divided.
Anyways, after a smoke or two, I sprayed 1, maybe 1.5 sprays (the spray needed to be primed) of p74 (12.5mu) on my throat and walked back to the kick it. I didn’t really get a good feel on it that night, but after today’s experience, I think I have a better handle on it now. At the time, I felt things lightened up. It wasn’t like a euphoric sort of uplifting, it was very, very gentle. I felt more inclined to comment on things and just be a more loud presence. I had been drinking so I’m sure that’s a factor. One guy who’s entourage could best be described as a hipster crowd, commented how I had a funny look when I walked in, it made him laugh but not in a derogatory way, it was as if like me looking content made him feel more content. Anyways, his behavior to me definitely changed. I couldn’t get a handle on p74 that night though, so there wasn’t much more in terms of hits.
On the way home, I was pretty sleepy, so I tried some TAF as I remember reading that for some it people, there was an awakening effect. Didn’t really work, worked for a few minutes maybe, but it definitely faded after a while.
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Today I wore 1 spray of p74 (12.5mu) on my throat at work. Didn’t really notice much, except I did do something funny. As I was walking to my workstation, I had my car keys in hand and I clicked my door unlock button expecting it to unlock my computer and log me in. Haha. I caught it in stride and just laughed while finishing the walk to my desk. I wanted to report that as soon as I sat down but I figured I’d wait till the end of the day.
There weren’t many things to note today. I reapplied 2 sprays around 4:30. I noticed more interaction. Lots of asking me for help for small things. Had a conversation with a coworker about how the things that upper management were asking for just wasn’t going to be able to get cheap but they didn’t want to spend any money on it…etc..never really talk to her.
Anyways, friends are here, later guys. Gonna try A314.
I don’t like my title anymore.
So I’m in Korea now.
I don’t have too much time, and I don’t have the mindset to sit down and regurgitate everything I’ve observed the last couple of days.
I reported the first night I tried a314 in this thread. Not very detailed, but might have something for someone out there:
I tried p74 alone again and I think 25mus is a good dose for me. At 12.5mus people are friendly and like to talk to me, but it’s not nearly the same level of nuthugging as 25mus.
Seriously, I can notice the difference in behavior from 12.5mus to 25mus. Although, either p74 needs to be buffered or something because at 35mus it started acting a little differently. I need more experience to pinpoint it though. My co-worker kept looking into my window after dropping him off at his apt as if I was trying to tell him something the whole time. Oh, there was some Instant Honesty on him at the time, so I’m sure that played a part. Either way though it wasn’t the IH, it was clearly the p74.
Also, around my friend, 25mus had him apologizing profusely for getting ashes inside my car, wiping it off and everything. He was extremely happy I picked him up from church. But I think that would probably have been the result without pheros. Who doesn’t wanna ditch church? ![]()
If that behavior reminds me of anything, it’s definitely of high school. The star QB who has dudes telling him how much he rocked the game.
Also, on my flight to Korea, I decided to switch it up and try mx209 (which was graciously packed along with my order - Thanks April! - amongst many other goodies!) I think the scent is very good for dispersion guys.
Anyways, I got a serious blatant hit. I got a couple interested looks here and there, but I was also carrying around 6 cartons of smokes for my pops. So I get onto the transit bus that’s gonna take us to the plane and this young girl (I’m not sure on ethnicity, I think philipino or thai?) straightens up immediately, her eyes are bright and wide, looking straight at me. She’s flipping and playing with her hair incessantly, and I’m sure it didn’t help that I ended up standing right next to her for the duration of the bus ride (sort of by accident…
). I didn’t respond to her IOIs because I wasn’t sure of how old she was. So either because I wasn’t giving her any attention, or what, she kept flipping at her hair, etc, etc..lots of little movements to draw attention to her.
The funny part was that her mom noticed all the posturing and looked towards my direction to figure out what all the fuss was about, looked at me, and I think she figured it out. For the rest of the walk to the plane she looked back at me at every switchback on the walkway. It wasn’t like a get away from my daughter kind of look. But a curious, what’s up with him look.
I might have had some residual p74 on me since I didn’t take a shower after picking up my friend for 420 waaay earlier that day. If I did, it would have been that 25mus dosage.
So I’ll end it here. I’m in Korea, plenty of pheromones, and plenty of asian girls
. I’m actually thinking about letting my dad and his GF in on pheromones. I think they’ll really have a blast here. I’m most interested in trying Instant Gentleman (I’m hypothesizing it’ll be very good for asians in general). I also have the Shine, a little openness, mx203, and I’m not sure what else. I brought a lot with me though.
I’ll be stopping by now and then, letting you know how things go here. I’ll be in Korea for two weeks, so if you want me to try something, let me know and I’ll report back.
No really aggressive mixes though, I didn’t bring any of that with me. I’ll list what I have with me if yall are curious and wanna propose some experiments.
I’ll be going to a variety of occassions, as well as a wedding, so there’s lots of different situations to see the pheros at work.
Good report. ![]()
I always follow your progress. Also, about Instant Gentleman, I would really love to see your results.
omg… Phya… GO WILD. Take good notes and careful observations! Good luck man and have fun. well unless you like korean bbq, I hear all they eat is the pork and the beef sucks. =
But hey, in korea, cute girls… makes up for it.
Heh, the beef’s alright, but the pork’s better usually. It’s spicier than the beef, so that might be why it’s more popular? I dunno.
I’ve been using IG the last couple days. It’s really hard to tell, I can see the effects, but I think..well honestly, if I came in a bottle, I’d probably come in a bottle of IG, haha. I get similar reactions to what I usually get when I come to Korea, but now there’s much more disbelief that I’m my dad’s son when I’m introduced. I’ll elaborate on it later. I need more time with it.
BTW I have IS, IG, IO, and p74 with me. I thought I had some p93 variant mixes with me, but I guess not. I thought the p74 would be interesting because Korean culture has a strong “don’t bother people you don’t know” character at times. I wonder if people would approach me more with p74. We’ll see.
Can I change this?
First off, I lied. I do have a p93 variant mix. It’s mx203. So I have Instant Gentleman, Instant Shine, Instant Shine (2x), Instant Openness, p74, TAF, and mx203. Don’t ask why I didn’t bring the p93. I should have. DOH!
Okay, so I took some notes yesterday. They are a little scattered because they are my observations over the course of three days.
I started with 1 spray to the throat, the day after 2 sprays, and today 2 sprays to the throat and 1 spray in my hair.
I’m not sure about my family’s reactions because of the fact that a lot of serious shit is going down right now. So there would be a lot of ‘serious’ discussions anyways. It’s not the first time I’ve heard this, but I’ll note it anyways. My dad started off the discussion about family politics by saying, I wouldn’t ordinarily involve you in these types of matters, but you’re older now and I think it’s important that you’re aware of what’s going on. I’d been here for two days, but today was the first day we really talked about it. Eh, not that unusual though, like I said, it’s happened before, though never for something so..close to home.
Ironically, I think IG was the perfect product to bring with me this trip. Long story short, there’s a wedding coming up and I want to show up as a smoothest, most put together family member at the wedding. Not really for me, but for me dad because it’s the first and last impression of me that my extended family will get. I want them to know that my dad is an OG and that he’s raised me right and proper. ![]()
But I have noticed other people’s behavior and IG definitely has a ‘status’ effect to it. As mentioned before, not like a314, but definitely has a ‘status’ aura to it.
Without further delay, my notes:
If anything, IG reactions are either reactions that stick out or don’t stick out at all (as in the effects are hidden under the surface). I think that IG works well for me. Probably best used as a base. People are very receptive, and give lots of compliments (though it’s not unusual for me here in Korea).
So far, I like two sprays. It is enough to make a noticeable difference, as most probably won’t pick up a shift in vibes with just one spray. As I said before, this would probably go well as a base. It would probably pair well with IO and IH. IG has a ‘secure’ feeling about it. It is a ‘classic’ vibe, if you will. P93 might mesh well in the presence of ‘socials’ giving IG more ‘depth’. I think tacitus’s ideas on ‘symphonic’ mixes are applicable here.
P74 might not work as well. I’m not sure why I have that feeling. I"m probably just talking out of my ass here.
It also goes without saying that IS will pair well with IG. I suspect that TAA is an ingredient in IG to begin with.
There seems to be a lot of disbelief that I’m my dad’s son. Probably stems from the ‘older’ impression. Interestingly enough, I was told that I look young today. Funny contrast.
There are some ‘coming of age’ references. My dad told me that some of his students were “interested in me as a man”. What tipped me off was that he didn’t just say that they liked me, or that they wanted to talk to me. He specifically said they are interested in me as a man.
Also, my grandpa didn’t recognize me this morning. He didn’t believe it was me, until my dad justified his reaction by saying that my hair changed, I’m older now, etc…in any case, my gramps might be becoming senile so who knows how substantial that reaction is. What makes me read into his reaction as much as I have is that the day before, he had no problem recognizing me with one spray on. Then again, he was at least 20 feet away. Most of you would probably assert that he was too far away to be effected by the pheromones, but that doesn’t account for any change in my own body language and behavior.
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I was introduced to a student from Canada today. I’m wearing three sprays of IG today. Two to the throat, one in the hair. I don’t know how he normally acts, but I noticed that he had his hands in his pocket for most of the time. We were also standing and talking for about 5 minutes before I mentioned that he can sit down. He’s 25, I’m 20, but I doubt he has any clue that he’s much older than me. This kind of behavior could be attributed to the IG, but it could also be a product of my dad being the owner of the institute. Meaning, I’m going to receive lots of respectful behavior, simply on the basis that my dad is their boss/teacher. So respect based mixes might hard to validate for me.
Tomorrow, depending on what my schedule has in store for me, I want to start making combos. I’m thinking two sprays of IG as a base, then either layering IS, p74, TAF, or mx203. I think IS will be first up, then p74, then mx203. I think I want to save TAF for last. No idea why, but that’s just how I feel right now.
Oh, another thing that makes me feel like IG emits a ‘secure’ vibe is because of the way my dad’s dog acts right after I put on the IG. He sniffs me, then promptly cuddles up right next to me with his back to me. He does this every time my dad is about to punish him or scold him. Of course this is hard to verify because he behaves that way normally as well. I don’t know what the hell it is about me, but I get the feeling that I’m sort of a security blanket for him. I suppose it might be because I’m the biggest in the family? Or perhaps it’s just my demeanor. I dunno.
Alrighty.
Some new notes.
Again I’ll just be transcribing from my iphone, so the notes will probably be scattered.
Dad tried two sprays of Instant Gentleman one day on the way to the mall. This guy came the wrong way down a one way street. The other car kind of pulled aside to let us through, but the street was too narrow so dad backed up to let him through instead.
Normally dad would chew the other guy out for blocking traffic like that. At the very least he would say something to them. He didn’t say a thing. After they passed, there was a moment of silence. I don’t know about dad and his GF, but I was honestly a little shocked. Usually he jumps at the chance to yell at someone like that. Dad broke the silence jokingly wondering if it was because of the spray. He didn’t know what I had sprayed him with.
Later he reported brighter colors upon application - brighter sky. He also felt calm, associated color: light blue.
Oh yah, on the way out he held the door open for a couple people. In Korea, people have a bad habit of just walking through without saying thank you. I think my dad kind of stopped doing that as a result of bad manners. That day he opened the doors almost instinctively. More over, the two women who walked through bowed thank you. Dad also commented on his behavior.
Dad’s GF tried Instant Openness. She liked it the best. She said it made her ‘normal’, not ‘high’ like IS. She didn’t report much else other than being calmed. Associated color: vivid green. I want her to try regular IS again to see if she experiences something similar to last time. Details are in Andrew’s ISE thread. Instant Shine EXTREME (x8) - #79 by Phya
Testing in Korea is hard. There are lots of social barriers as well as cultural differences. I wish I had brought along A314 to test how well A314’s DHV works here in Korea. Value seems to be interpreted almost exclusively by material goods by the majority of people here. It’s a little sick actually. Some of these couples seem miserable. Douches putting up with bitches because those are the hottest girls they can pull with money alone. Bitches put up with the douches because he buys her shit that a poorer guy wouldn’t be able to. What makes it sick is that they both seem to realize it, but put up with it anyways because it’s the status quo.
Maybe I’ll have a better understanding if I come back with more experience, go out a bit more (instead of being with family almost 24/7)
Social barriers - meaning barriers as a result of society’s rules. Korean society is highly segmented by social roles. Your relationship with someone and their status in relation to your own status dictates the manner in which they can appropriately interact with you. Thus, even if pheromones are effective, responses to them will be heavily filtered and censored.
I think that is part of the limitation of this trip. If I could communicate better in Korean, I could open conversations to create situations where it would be appropriate to be friendly or at the very least, more forward.
As for myself, Instant Gentleman + IS is cool. Nothing overly special as far as combos go. Safe and reliable combo. I have yet to try Instant Gentleman with anything else here.
I tried mx203 at the mall the same day my dad tried IG. 3 sprays of mx203 to the throat. I don’t know how well I applied though because I did it while walking outside, trying to be somewhat inconspicuous.
I feel that respect mixes will get DIHL much more than social mixes would. That’s part of the reason why I’m a little miffed I didn’t bring A314.
I tried 3 sprays of p74 (12.5mu/spray), nice, light, almost…flowery? People seem to be responsive. Our dog perked up right away when I put on the p74, but that might have also been because I was leaving the house. He was very friendly and behaved as if he wanted to play.
It seems you’re getting used to p series ![]()
I read your thought about social barrier and had an idea that it was somehow normal in Asian societies. My home country and here are not much different in that aspect.
Hope you’re having fun in Korea. I see you’ve seen the fake/plastic girls that all my friends have been telling me about. For the manners thing, it’s like that for China too. Chinese people are the rudest mother fuckers that I’ve ever dealt with. I’m chinese and damn, every time I go to China I want to kill someone. No respect for anyone and it seems that way in Korea, so I find that your dad opening doors, not yelling, etc surprising myself because I see that ALL the time in China. And the whole materialistic status quo is like that too in HK and the more developed parts of China. Come around in a Mercedes with Armani and Burberry and chicks will be all over you.
Do you experience a calm with IG too? I didn’t get much of a self effect from IG, or I didn’t notice it.
Hi Phya,
I wanted to let you know great journal, and I see you really enjoy mx203 as well, thanks for posting.
Yea, I figured as much, but I felt I could only really comment on my first hand experiences. I think that only leaves us with one option. More or less force our way through those barriers. It’s easier with younger people because they are less apt to restrict themselves so tightly. But pretty much, as I was saying, I need to talk to them more often to get them comfortable and to establish that we can have friendly interactions and that it’s socially acceptable to have friendly interactions between the two of us. Hell, I’d say all you aspiring PUAs, come to asian countries and try and open up some of these sets. I bet some of you will encounter walls that you’ve never had to deal with before. It’s mostly such a bitch because they won’t ever let you see the wall, let alone break it down easily.
Yea, I’m having a good time. It’s not a blast like a college party or anything but it’s one of the few times I get to spend with my dad. We’ve basically just been kicking back with a couple beers and some greens talking music and life. It’s been more meaningful than fun or anything like that.
I’ve seen the plastic girls in K-Town too, but at least they have nice surgery, postures, smiles, hell some even have enjoyable personalities. These girls aren’t even close. All they have is a rich guy wrapped around their finger and it shows in their smiles and faces.
As for all the disrespect stuff, I guess it’s because I don’t speak Korean very well, I don’t really care. I just do what I think is right, and keep walking or whatever. Just yesterday some guy was impatient and tried to push through the crowd crossing the walkway. I just kept walking, reached through their window and tapped the passenger side headrest hard to let them know I was there and kept walking. The driver was about to bitch me out I think but he didn’t even have a chance, I was already down the block. ![]()
So I see it, but ignore it. Not worth my trouble. I try and tell my dad that, but heh..he’s stubborn. I know where I get mine from I guess.
He does things his way. Whatever, my life is as good as its been precisely because he’s been hardheaded about the things that matter to him (IE: family).
My self effects are not dramatic. In fact, more than anything it’s a gentle quieting. Calm, collected, cool. It’s not like Instant Shine where I feel a little energy spike, nor like Honesty which is more like cuddling up with a soft blanket. Sort of in between.
huh, thats an interesting analogy to honesty… seems like I need to purchase that next.
You haven’t tried Instant Honesty yet?! Dude, you have GOT to get your hands on some. It’s too good not to have. Once you get used to it, you’ll probably be wanting it in higher strengths..I plan on getting 4x with my next order if my friend has used most of my regular strength IH while I’m here in Korea.
I don’t know who signs their reps with £, but they left me a rep with a comment saying “lol, you’re doing it wrong.” ![]()
I re-read repped post but I couldn’t figure out what the repper was talking about. If whoever repped that post could come back and elaborate as to what they were talking about so that I can reflect on it, I’d appreciate that. Soooo, whoever left that..please come back and let me know what’s up. I won’t mind that I’m doing something wrong, I’d rather know what I’m doing wrong so that I can adjust it and learn from it.
Thanks!