It definitely seems to be very relaxing to the ladies. Two sprays doesnot seem terribly sexual though. I even noticed that my one uncle was much more open and comfortable withme today, but I was also wearing 2 drops A314 and 2 sprays of Liquid Trust. Not sure which one did that, but I liked it. Been trying to regain my friendship with him for a long time.
IFM is the only Androtics product that turns me off.The smell is atrocious.I have several excellent quality cover scents.I have to OD on cologne,to cover the IFM.Josef compares it to goat;that rules out the goat farm I’ve been saving for. I feel self concious,when I wear it…because I get an occasional whif of it,several hours after application 
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I have never been able to smell anything but a slight hay-like scent, but I haven’t had good experiences with the way some women respond to the scent. It really sucks that it’s illegal for Harris to mix a cover scent into it directly, but it is.
I finally broke down and bought a “To Go” sized bottle of IFM. So what do you guys use for covering it, and how/ where do you apply it? I’ve got Armani Black Code, Axe “Touch” and Tag “Midnight”, and have also ordered Ammunition. I’m thinking of ordering Chikara from LS and/or buying more cheaper, musky colognes as cover scents (Jovan, Obsession?) I like Escada Aftershave, used as a cologne. Would Ammo or Chikara work as a cover scent?
chikara = works for me very well with getting female attraction , but = very very weak powdery scent and will not work as a cover.
Good musky cover is Gucci Envy, or try one of MHarris’ Neroli Cologne’s. That’s fresher and not so musky but still covers well.
I wore just one spray of Ammunition last night, and had a gay guy tell me I smelled like animal urine… which I couldn’t smell at all… and neither could my “sniffer” who usually says IFM smells bad. That would be him noticing the androstenone, of course… I’m pretty sure he noticed it because he was gay… but… I’m not sure Ammunition is well suited for a cover scent since it’s already trying to cover something.
Eternity seems to work at 1:1, although I don’t much like Eternity anymore… and Akuto works, too.
I thought you said Envy didn’t last very long? I ought to look into one of the Neroli colognes, I like that scent.
my bad.. i take that back. My nose must have beed screwed up the last time i tried Envy. I went to a department store on the weekend and sprayed my wrist with 2 shots of Envy. 4 hrs later, 80% of the scent was still there. Strong stuff man. A bit too strong. It’ll cover any sorta mone u put on yourself, guaranteed. I think more than 2 sprays of Envy on a person would likely be a scent OD. It’s got a very over-powering but beautiful scent. So watch out for that.
I’ll have to go check out what it smells like. It sounds like good stuff. I hope they carry it at the mall.
Maybe he noticed it because he was gay… or maybe he just noticed because he was hitting on you =P
Catlord, also check out Versace Man. That one is a long lasting one and has a bit of neroli in it too. Supposed to be a match for Leos and also a great scent.
Y’all lost me here — Catlord, are you implying that only gay guys can smell it? I don’t see how that’s possible. I smell NPA very clearly (every once in awhile - the smell comes and goes), and certain mixes of LS gel packs smell a lot like different types of Deer Lure to me.
Check it out first. I don’t notice anything bad in the way of “stink” from IFM. I don’t use a cover with it (came with clary sage already in it).
Key point is there have been no complaints from the ladies. Remember it’s for them, not you.
Plus “covering” with another pheromone product/mix may effect to outcome of results from IFM. Try it alone first, then if you can, add other “individual” products one at a time to see what happens. (like IO, IH, IShine, etc.)
Rmember what stinks to one user is often just fine or not noticeable to another, and the main concern should be your “target’s” reactions anyway.
Not implying anything. Some people can smell it, and some cant. He can, gay or not.
So is that “deer lure” / animal piss smell adrostenone?
That’s not hitting on me. He can just smell stuff I can’t.
Androstenone smells like animal urine to most women who can smell it and some guys. It is referred to as cat piss a lot. Most guys either can’t smell it or can smell a “dusty” smell. You can learn to smell it if you can’t to begin with, apparently.
The figure most often quoted is 1 in 4 can’t smell it, not exactly “most guys”.
I remember J. V. Kohl has mentioned somewhere that people with more estrogen have better capability of smelling -none, which means a higher percentage of women can smell -none compared to men. Also, he mentioned that people can develop receptors to smell it after continued exposure. In the research paper Kohl cited it took the author only weeks of continuous exposure to -none to start being able to smell it. I just wish I could smell it, will reduce so much of my problems with -none.
I thought that was 1 in 4 who could smell it? In any case, most guys I know… cannot smell none.