I’ve noticed that Instant Gentleman is not often discussed on this forum and I’ve done some searching to come up with answers but I can’t seem to find any.
I’ve started testing my Instant Gentleman today at college, I noticed I was more involved in the bigger group conversations where normally I would sit and listen rather than talking and cracking jokes more, seems to bring me out my shell more. I’m 19 so it should be good for my age and I have no doubt that it is, I’m just unsure of the kinds of hits it gets you. How do the opposite sex percieve/react to it and how do those of the same sex percieve and react to it?
What’s the maximum dose to use? I started with 1 the other day, yesterday 2, today 3. I don’t know how to find my sweet spot though because I don’t know when it’s being at its most effective because I don’t recognise the signs I should be seeing of people.
Is it good for mixing? I’ve read it’s good with Instant Honesty and that shine goes with most things so those three would make a good combo, but what about those 3 + AMMO? What about Openess instead of Honesty? I’ve read people use it with A314, why is that? What effects does that have? I know it’s going to boil down to me experimenting I just want to get a general picture of the product.
If you think it’s not being discussed right now, you should have seen it before. It was practically non-existent…
I feel that their reaction is similar to that of interacting with an older guy that they aren’t sure if they’re similar age, younger, but act/look older, or an older guy that is young at heart (mostly in terms of emotional maturity). I’ve noticed curious looks, kind of a ‘hmmmm…who’s he?’ The hits are mellower than -none hits which sort of slap you in the face.
I haven’t gone over 3 sprays. I like 2-3 sprays by itself, 1-2 combined with other pheromones. It can feel a little ‘heavy’ (a little like moist clothes) when applied too much.
I think the 3 make a great social combo. I haven’t tried Ammo with it, but Zeph has. The differences between IO and IH seem to be a matter of preference, IMO, both would work well.
People use IO with A314 because of the ‘distancing’ effect A314 can have. People use the IO to ‘break the ice’ and help conversation flow a bit easier. IH serves this same purpose.
Yes, its true, it will boil down to you experimenting, but the search button is very helpful too.
Wildflower, try the advanced search feature. Select “search titles only” and use keyword “gentleman”. There have been a lot of guys your age using it lately and a lot of good results.
I think both sexes percieve it as warm masculinity and react to it in a positive friendly manner. I think it provides a sense of safety without aggression. I use it as an alternative to A314, not with it, and I prefer IO with it instead of IH. IShine rocks! That’s just me and you’ll get other equally valid responses to the same questions from other guys. I’m close to thirty years older than you are so YMMV.
I’m going on a date this friday and I want to come up with a mix. I have used all 4 products individually now and have a very basic feel for each. I’ve read up about a lot of them and know what each delivers. Below is the mix I’m thinking of using. I want to use the openness for conversation, gentleman and shine for charisma and confidence and AMMO for attraction
I’m going to continue testing them individually for some time but for the date I’d like to try a mix. I’d like to add a drop of A314 as well because the girl is usually attracted to alphas but don’t wan’t to over do it.
Wild, It’s ok if you want to try a mix but you should be aware that A314, IG, IO, and Ammo overlap on several ingredients. wearing them all at once without testing may work great or may be too much of something and you wouldn’t know which one to correct next time.
Here are two mix ideas.
very safe but fun: 2 sprays IG, 4 sprays IO, 2 sprays Ishine
(slightly)higher risk-higher potential: 2 Ishine, 2 IO, 2 AMMO, small drop A314 to your chin.
Thanks for the reply renny. I really like the sound of the first mix but wouldn’t it be lacking an attraction based pheromone like AMMO? Would one spray of AMMO to the chest increase the risk of over doing it? I REALLY love shine so I’d probably end up giving myself an extra spray to make it 3 instead of 2, I can’t help myself lol.
lol this post on came up once I made my last post. I’ve read AMMO contains some of the pheromones the socials have to help buffer it. Is this why you would say anymore than 3 sprays of shine and openness would be bad? If so how come? If you can’t OD on the socials what response would I get from overdoing them in this mix?
Thanks guys, I’m learning more in this thread than I have in a week of testing. The last mix I made when I went to the pub, I put like 8 sprays of both instant Openness and Shine on with 3 drops A314, I think that was a mistake then?
OK, add a spray of ammo to your chest so that it diffuses slowly through you shirt when you pull her close, and more quickly the more buttons she unbuttons. Good devious idea!
It worked quite well. I became centre of attention, charismatic and personal space evaporated. It was my first test with a mix so I wasn’t expecting a lot.
the reason I brought it up is because Phya high litghted the point of not going above 3 sprays each with instant openness and shine.
Safe mix, no -none, you’re 19 you are probably making plenty. 2 IG gives you a bump in the safe warm friendly masculine frequency (think of this like a graphic EQ), heavier IO bumps both attraction and fun and makes this the biggest part of it, Ishine balances the IG with a mildly sexy and happy vibe.
Riskier mix. Ishine mildly sexy happy, ammo adds the hotter but heavier -none balanced by androstenol which overlaps with the IO, and androsterone which overlaps with A314 (or IG). A small amount of A314 would give a slightly more “alpha” vibe than IG. A314 would also help buffer the Ammo even though it adds a little more -none to the mix.
Yeah at 19 i’m and scared of overdoing the none, that’s why I’d stick with 1 AMMO to my chest where it is behind my shirt. 2-3 seems like what most people use for Instant gentleman so I’d stick with that. Would anymore Openness just unbalance the mix, making it less effective? I’m just curious because when I wore like 8 sprays of it the conversation was only slightly more chatty than usual, although like I said there where other differences like people invading my personal space more, trying to get close to me, making me the centre of attention. People where fighting to talk to me one on one, maybe this is the openness? Anyway, I trust what you say and will try the first mix with 1 modest spray of AMMO on my chest.
Well Ammo already contains the “main” ingredient in both Instant Openness and Instant Shine. We’re telling you to take it easy on the socials for a couple reasons. First, is that sometimes less really is more. Everyones reactions to pheromones are different and can vary dramatically. Second, the Neroli scent is very light and smells good, but even that can become too much. Especially if you’re spraying multiple sprays of Ammo, which as a cologne strength scent - you DON’T want to become ‘that cologne guy’. Finally, since you don’t need as much socials, you’re just unbalancing the mix and ‘wasting’ pheromones. Might as well save the money.
Phya said 3 IO + the AMMO, I thought 4 without the AMMO that put’s us within 3 quarters to half a spray of each other. Phya’s pretty smart and probably a better judge of AMMO’s effects than I am. This is where you take charge of destiny and decide. Have Fun!
Honestly, my experience with Ammo is limited and my recommendation is more for that ‘fire’ that -none brings to the equation that WildFlower was looking for. I think scaled down IO and IS accordingly…
Also, you and I will have different perspectives on Ammo. You have a good 20 years of life experience on me, my behavior and observations will be different than yours. Finally, I’m a college kid chasing college cuties, you’re an established man, chasing..college cuties? Heh. But yea, a little Ammo in the mix gives me that ‘grr’..
This has been by daily mix and has gotten to me great results, im also 19.
2 sprays of Instant Gentleman, Instant Openness and AMMO, I’m Indian and maybe thats why I produce less none because I haven’t OD on Ammo even after 4 sprays.
mmm, my sweet spot seems to be 3-4 sprays of Gentleman. I’m gonna go with what Phya said. It produces a “who’s THAT guy” kinda reaction. I’ve tried it with AMMO, 2.5 sprays AT MOST and it seems to ramp it up more in terms of curiosity from females. There’s the cool social vibe + a little of the AMMO sexual vibe that seems to work well with each other. I’m Asian though and a few years older than you. I’d suggest something like Gentleman x2-3, some IS 2-3 and some Honesty x4 along with that AMMO spray under the shirt.
Phya and Renny are far more experienced than I am and their advice is very solid. Just remember that all of our bodies are different.
i find it goes quite well with A314 as well… for sports i use 2 A314 and 3 Instant Gentleman… works quite well (hehe, for the ref )
in school i use IG as a replacement for A314… i have gotten that “woah, whos he” or let me talk to him… (might be the Instant Openness + IG combo though) then they talk… find out im a complete loser and go on with there life only joking
in terms of self effects i feel relaxed and calm… like everything is under control and everyone is lessening to me
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