instant honesty is good for deep closeness with a single target

to me IH is good for a one on one rapport,not so much in a group.today i went to the physio because i have disc bulge problem.armed with 4 blasts of IH and the therapist was so happy to see me.he act like he know me for a long time and treated me like im his close friend.he didn’t act like this with the previous session.when he finished with all the massage and stuff he goes ‘see you leon’ and then ‘see you leon’ again one more time.plus his tone sound like he want to see me again.in the evening my relatives and friends came over for a weekend booze and again 4 sprays of IH but nothing out of the ordinary.the conversations was normal like always.no deep talk or connection at all.i think IH is good for one on one bonding,not a group conversations.i could be wrong because im still new to IH,so what are your thoughts people?

just got back from a restautant with family and relatives with 4 blasts of IH and still nothing out of the ordinary.no deep talk or spill out a few secrets nothing at all.just the usual conversations.i think because your family and relatives know you too well,therefore its hard to build a deep conversation.but if you’re with a friend or a girl and if they’re in the talking and expressing mood,then IH can build rapport,deep conversation and maybe spill out a few secrets.well that is my theory.some advice from experienced IH users would be great

Yes it can do this but IME the risk with IH is that it can go too deep and get them pouring out all their troubles on you. Which is not so good for attraction but very useful in other spheres.

This is why I like steering it with IS, to help shift the emphasis to encourage those “interesting” secrets they find they really like to tell you - and that is a different matter all together! :wink: :smiley:

quit playing games mobo… name some of these interesting secrets you’ve heard from women when exposed to IS IH mixes.

I could go-on for hours - :open_mouth: :smiley: - but briefly, all the interesting and useful secrets about what they like, how they like it and a trust/closeness plus that frisson of pleasure from the IS in telling all this that helps you on your way to be the guy doing it with them.

Do you find this effect loses potency when IH is combined with IO? Is IO too silly? Do you still get same results with IO in there? I’m assuming ammo , tuth, p75 etc won’t screw up the signal but IO might get too much irrelavant gab and take away from IH deep intimacy.

No. IH/IS is by far the better (and more mature) paring - quality and quantity as opposed to IO’s torrent-o’drivel potential. IO is maybe best where you are trying to establish any sort of conversation/easy rapport/or where it might be difficult to talk - loud club, gig etc or to take the edge off of potentially daunting doses of none.

IO/IH in mixes does seem to get me bogged-down in conversation, often by the pub bore or the very last person I want to be talking to.

I also like IH/IS as a TUTH moderator but I have to admit IO is maybe the better one where P75 is concerned. My best results with higher dose P75 have involved either IO (mostly) or MX297 as the primary social moderator.

I think your describing it well leon.

IH is deep it doesn’t evoke the jovial casual conversations you see in groups or social settings. This doesn’t mean you cant wear it in a social setting successfully though.

For instance I have worn it to an office party and in a group while we are all chatting away people do tend to open up more generally but nothing earth shattering. However when I walked away from that group each member sought me out so they could talk to me alone. They feel the connection to me but do not want to open all the way up in the group.

It seems to invoke a feeling of trust connection bonding and intimacy which is a huge pull especially for females. To feel comfortable sexually we need those emotions

Tisha

When would you want to throw IO in there with it? I mean it IO is chatter and silliness would it or would it not detract from IH? Would some women like IO IH better (Blondes for example who like to have fun, talk a lot, smile, laugh, and have casual connections too), and others looking for a deeper connection (boyfriend) think IO IH is too casual and need just IS IH for more intimacy and less SILLY fun?

ok 4 blasts all to neck,because i want to feel the self effect.and BAM! i felt so serious and deep not good at all.so 1 blast of IS to neck and i felt better.chill out at a coffee shop with the homies and only one of them got hit by my phero cloud.everyone else just chit chat as usual nothing out of the ordinary.but that friend of mine got hit by IH no doubt.abit of info about this guy.he’s an ex bad boy.he did a lot of naughty and bad things in the past but quitted the bad boy life,plus he’s not the type of person that like to share his personal stuff with other people.suddenly he told me that he joined the cancer foundation.he donate $35 bucks a month to help the foundation to find the cure for cancer.he said that he did so many bad things in the past,that’s why he wanted redemption.he want to do something good for humanity and to help the unlucky souls.man that was so deep! plus the way he express himself was so serious and deep.then he said that since he joined the foundation,he felt light,happy and his soul is at ease.he also said that he always got bad luck in life,but now a lot of good luck is happening and he’s a change man.IH is some potent stuff but not effective in group setting.this product is for a one on one bonding and deep closeness.if you’re looking for a fallout mix,add IH into your combo.you will be amazed.and one more thing! if you go heavy on IH,add some shine.because this shit is very serious and deep at high dose and apply on your forearms and wrists not on chest or neck

I wrote a post not too long ago that stated being overly serious and intimate in early dates may get you categorized as a therapist or friend or confidant instead of lover or guy who makes a woman smile.

IH has in fact had effects on me similar to depression. Seriousness, not smiling much, introversion. Its deep and deepness may make moods to serious.. In these trying times people don’t want to be depressed further talking all about their feelings would could bring up tears etc.

Any idea how I can use IH to get women confiding in me more in terms of casual sex etc (not ONS but relationship casual sex – (not marriage, or woman saying she wants me to meet her parents etc))..

I’m after summer flings and bonds but not DEEP DEEP emotional connection that could turn a woman (or me) into a possessive stalker because I feel such a close bond.

You know by now I love p75, ammo IS IO etc… When and WHERE would you use IH in this mix? What kind of date?

And do you think any girls would scream out “your too sensitive and wimpy! Can’t we relax and chill” when exposed to the signature?

i have to agree with you on that one dsouza! IH is a good product,but not good on the first few dates.on the 1st,2nd and 3rd date you need something masculine but non threatening(IG).something slight sexual think 1-2mcg none or half spray of TUTH.with zero none in the mix,its very easy to fall into friend zone.just a slight touch of none,your combo will turn into a friend zone buster.next is comfort A1 or P74 and last but not least breaking the ice and keep the convo going smoothly.for social on the first few dates,i would not use IH.too deep,too serious no fun at all.i would use IO+IS or 50/50 IO and IH plus some shine.early stage of dating you need an aura of masculinity,very slight sexual,comfort,happy and upbeat atmosphere and conversations.if things are going well,i will then use IH for social on the 4th date for rapport and deep cloneness.but i will keep the dose at moderate level,say 2-3 sprays.with me 4 sprays is way TOO SERIOUS not sexy at all.and ofcourse throw some shine in there to balance out the seriousness of IH