Wondering if other users have been frustrated by IO. I am using one spray of 2x on the back of my neck with no other mones. I notice that people can’t stop talking to me, but it is often a weird artificial interaction. If I use one spray of Instant shine 2x I find people are much more “open”, where as the Instant openness just makes others act weird. Also when used together I notice that the IO seems to ruin the Shines normally great results. Opinions and thoughts please.
honestly, no. i love instant openness. great stuff. i think it all depends on how good of a conversationalist you are. i’m pretty good at talking to people, so this works great for me. but if you plan on being a bump on a log and expect the other person to do all the work…well what can i say…
I’ve used instant gentleman with instant shine & openess and I do notice the effect of instant shine canceling. I dont feel as much happy. YES, instant openess tends to make people talk, from random to wierd stuff, haha. Im going out tonight and decided not to use instant openess. Just IG & IS. I also have the same Instant Shine 2x just like yours. Imnot sure but
I feel that the first time I used it it was effective but nowadays I dont feel much of the effect
IS has never done anything for me oddly enough..i’ve heard that this was an issue with asian men, but whatever.
It’s funny because I don’t have problems having conversations at all, I just prefer a normal conversation over an IO conversation, because people tend to rush their thoughts into words or saying really odd things. I have also noticed that IS has less effect on me than when I first started using, but I think you need to take a break now and then like anything else.
Last weekend, I stayed with a friend while I was out of town. I applied 4 sprays of IOx4 to the top of my hands. We were sitting on the porch enjoying the little breeze that was blowing, and he would not stop talking! Subject after subject, event after event … 2 hours! During those two hours that he was sharing his thoughts/happenings … I only said yes and unhuh. It didn’t matter to him. 
Wear that stuff around someone it connects with, and you’ll learn to listen! :o
I love Instant Shine and Instant Openness together. Works very well for me.
Maybe you should give IH a try then - that might fit your expectations better!
An airhead is an airhead. Adding beta -nol to a mix won’t make them any more witty, educated or intelligent. Well, they might talk about their innermost feelings more who the hell wants to hear such dribble.
I would never wear a strong androstenol dose as a standalone. Never. It puts my phero signature totally out of balance and renders me rather nutless. Fortunately, I find a healthy dose of A314 can often balance my sig (balls are bigger) and “temper” -nol invoked motomouth: chemically induced higher status makes for more measured communication from targets, at least in my case. In a similar way, androstenone tames target motomouth 'n makes mah nads so huge ah needs ah wheelbarrow. Said combo may be too edgy 'n horny for young men to wear during daylight hours. I find it really makes the wahine swoon.
Thanks everyone for the recommendations, I guess what really is bothering me about instant openness is that it opened my eyes to how mones can so strongly alter someones behaviors. I think it is really a philosophical debate. Part of me loves the power that these chemicals can have, part of me feels slightly hollow at the idea that we are really just biological machines.
I feel the same way, its a little disturbing in some ways
Btw add some -rone to it tones down the sillyness a bit
It’s not as easy as that. I guess it really depends on the wearer and the target how much of an influence the pheromones have. I for one have never experienced the motomouth-effect that Gegogi keeps talking about, and I’ve gone really high with -nols. A month ago I’ve been wearing 200 mcg alpha-nol (that’s at least 10 sprays IO I guess) exclusively to a party - but no ‘motomouth’ effect anywhere. Good relaxed conversations yes, constant blabbering of bs no. Maybe there’s something in my natural signature that’s keeping this from happening, or I just don’t know people who would react like this…
Those two … and that’s for ALL mones and mixes … IF … you’d ask me. 
Well, N8 … you can jot that down in your note book … IO = motormouth. 1 mone down, lots to go! NEXT!
Glad to know others think about these issues as well. Sometimes it seems mones users are just sharks looking for the edge in attracting sexual partners. The silly and motomouth effects are definitely more noticeable in certain people. Does anyone have a suggestion for a mone that combines social and alpha effects. I was thinking I might try A314. I am happily married and am not really looking to attract women, but like the way IS has helped me to excel at work, and from everyones advice it seems only social mones might be too unbalanced. Thanks 
A TO-GO of IG should be given a test run. IF it’s too lite … A314.
I’m no expert, but that’s my call.
P.S. And you’re gonna attract other women. Get use to it!
Nah, the sharks usually don’t bother posting much, buy some heavy none product, OD and then claim that pheromones are a bunch of BS cause no girls jumped them
I don’t own any androtics products yet (waiting for A314) but I have SOE (nol and rone mix) which has indeed created some motormouth effects but with a slight admiration and respect for anything you say which is nice (which is why I’m interested in A314)
Here’s a quote from the A314 page
"However, it produces very natural effects. Unlike some pheromone products, A314 usually won’t make people “act strange” or inappropriately. Like a high end liquor, A314 is “smooth”. People will react to you as if you are actually a strong, highly desirable male, not like you’re wearing some weird voodoo juice. "
Maybe what you’re looking for?