Hi !
I went out with some friends last Saturday night. 2 guys and 1 girl. The girl is a friend of mine (lesbian), and the other two guys are our respective friends so they didn’t know each other.
As it seems that I already produce communication pheros, I had two shots of IO and one of IH (to-go versions). My male friend was talking about a girl he’d like to date but that he can’t manage to, I told him he had to be more straightforward (or wear TUTH, but didn’t tell him that), and my female friend said “yes, you’ve got to be straightforward with a girl”, and gave an example saying “for example, being straightforward is saying that I find J (that’s me ^^) very handsome and i’d like to have a hit with him”.
Oh my god ! I couldn’t believe that ! I must admit it was a pleasure to hear that from a supposed lesbian, which she told me is not totally lesbian as she’s been having views on me.
Anyway, we kissed and so on, didn’t have sex (“not the first night”, especially in the wrong period of the month) and I was nervous about the day after.
I didn’t see her yesterday, after i sent an sms, she replied saying she had people in and that she was using an old phone with low battery, that she couldn’t give or receive calls and that she would call me from work today.
So ?
My question is : once pheros are not working because they are not under the nose, does their effect leave the person as well ? No more IO and IH, so no more openness and honesty ?
Hello Magicj76!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us! So, you asked quite good questions. Ok, I’m going to try and answer you, but I’m not sure I’m right. I think that:
If you meet somebody new, and you give a Phero-induced impression, that’s the thing that the new friend will remember of you.
If you meet somebody that you’re “phero-naked”, and tehn you give them a different impression wearing Pheros, you could have two different answers:
a. They are confused (in good or bad way, it’s up to them)
b. When you go away, they’ll remember you the “first impression” and they’ll think that this time was an exception.
So, if somebody meet you under the infulence of an heavy Instant Openness dose (and you’re a chatterbox), when they’ll wish to speak, they’ll call you. If the person has some barrier between you and him/her, and you teke them down with pheros, it’s likely that he/she will build it up again when you go away, and thinks that the lowered barries time is an exception (or even a mistake). That’s just my opinion…
Hi Magicj76,
sorry but I didn’t let you understand what I meant. When I wrote about “barrier”, I didn’t mean something that stands about the person 1 and the person 2 and doesn’t let them get together. I mean, a reason for which person 1 doesn’t want to get close to somebody else. Ok, here an example.
Let’s say that I don’t like people with freckles (Just an example! I love all the freckled girls!), but a night, a girl with freckles and a lot of Instant Sexiness seduce me. The next day she calls me and I remember the freckes, and also the Instant Sexiness effect vanished, I wouldn’t feel attracted anymore, that’d be the barrier I was talking about. Ok, now any girls with freckels can call me for a date, because I find freckes so sexy :-)!!!
If there’s a boyfriend/girlfriend between two people that want to be together, sorry, but I think they don’t need to use pheros to get together, they just need a car or a room and some free time…
If its someone who you’ve known for a year and they’ve always felt uncomfortable and weren’t really attracted to you then one day you wear Pheromones that makes them comfortable and causes some attraction, they’ll think it was a one off “I felt comfortable around him today and he looked kind of cute, maybe I was just in a good mood”.
When you call the next day she’ll probably just think to herself “What was I thinking?” I’m not attracted to him and talking to him still makes me uncomfortable.
HOWEVER… It could also go the other way (especially if you keep using pheromones around her over a period of time) and have her develop subconsciously an attraction and level of comfort around you that becomes engrained in her mind that will still be there even when you’re “Pheromone naked”.
Thats the beauty of Pheromones I guess. There’s limitless possibilities to any given situation. There are just WAY too many variables to take into account to give one solid response when it comes to most things Pheromone related.
TL;DR Version (Too long; Didn’t read for the web un-savvy )
The effect might remain, it might not depending on:
-Your history together
-The strength of the effect the pheromone has on her.
-Her mindset.
-Whether or not you continuously use pheromones around her to cement that feeling in her subconscious mind and have her realise she only feels that way when you’re around.
Keep up the IO and IH when you are around her. It obviously opens up a side of her (liking guys) she usually denies or suppresses.
Remember - anything that happens is 90% you, 10% pheromones. And like Gegogi always says, they do not turn people into mindless robots or cause people to do things against their will. There are always a lot of variables when it comes to human behavior. All you can do is say it worked once, now use that history, the pheromones and your social skills to keep it moving that direction.
Well, now it’s my turn to explain what I meant ! lol
She told me things that she didn’t dare tell before.
She told me she wanted to “jump on me” (sorry i can"t translate correctly from the French) and that she had a crush on me roght from the start.
The fact is that she did tell me when I was wearing IO and IH last saturday.
My point is that : is it good to have people tell things they usually don’t dare tell ?
Cos apart from all the questions she’s had for the last few months, it seems that now there’s a problem, as she’s trying to avoid another meeting…
Strictly sticking to pheromones, I think that IO can be good, but not always IH, as with honesty, one has to be ready for what they’re going to hear…
Well, now it’s my turn to explain what I meant ! lol
She told me things that she didn’t dare tell before.
She told me she wanted to “jump on me” (sorry i can"t translate correctly from the French) and that she had a crush on me roght from the start.
The fact is that she did tell me when I was wearing IO and IH last saturday.
My point is that : is it good to have people tell things they usually don’t dare tell ?
Cos apart from all the questions she’s had for the last few months, it seems that now there’s a problem, as she’s trying to avoid another meeting…
Strictly sticking to pheromones, I think that IO can be good, but with IH, one has to be ready for what they’re going to hear…
Hello Magicj76!
What could I say? Maybe just “welcome to the club” ;-)! I also experienced the thing that you wrote about. Let’s say that people already find me as a quite good listened, and when I use Instant Openness and Instant Honesty, may happen that they’d say something I wouldn’t hear. To me happened the opposite. Somebody “opened” a bit too much with me, and told me so much personal stuff, that now I’m avoiding them. Ok, now I speculate, but couldn’t it be that she told things that in normal life she wouldn’t and now she feels ashamed of? I mean, if you’re not close with the socials, she doesn’t feel open with you anymore… Maybe she regrets what she said? It’s just a silly theory, don’t take it too much theory, and as Bosshank says “90% you, 10% pheromones”.
She eventually told me something she wanted to tell before.
The result was good.
The following is not.
I guess it’s more a problem coming from her thinking about too many questions…
Is there a girl for advice in here ?
and some free time…
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