Intro - 22 year old from NoFlo

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Hey all,

So basically, my pheromone journey started a few hours ago. I’ve seen these types of products in the past, but I never showed much interest in them or gave them any credence.

I had a lazy morning (finals just ended) and by noon I still hadn’t showered, put deodorant on, etc. Once I realized this (ie, smelled myself lol) I thought about something a friend told me when we were 15 or so. He obviously hadn’t put on deodorant, so I said something to him, and then he started talking about not masking natural pheromones. I didn’t think much about it then but it stuck with me for some reason.

As soon as I remembered this, instead of showering, I did a simple Google search for “no deodorant pheromones” just to see if he was right 7 years ago. Instead of answers, top results were Amazon products (I love Amazon, mostly for reviews) but I could tell many reviews were fake. Like everyone else who understands how to effectively learn things online, I searched for a forum.

I’ve spent the last few hours in this community researching, and like every good forum it seems to be full of honest people trying to help each other out. The company is obviously confident about its products and extremely willing to prove it to new customers.

When I first started searching, I assumed pheromones were strictly for sexual attraction, but instead, I’ve found this whole world of potential. I’ve been on a huge self improvement kick as of late and mones fit right in.

A little about myself: I’m a 22 y/o male from North Florida. I have a couple years of college to go and I’m very active in Greek life. I am liked and respected within my fraternity, but with 50 guys to compete with in terms of girls, offices, and attention in general, I sometimes get left out.

I’m not shy by any means, but I’m definitely an introvert, and I’m an extremely laid back person. Small stuff doesn’t bother me, but others sometimes perceive that as a lack of authority. With girls, I’m a friend-zone type of guy, mostly because I don’t give off that competitive, alpha male vibe that many of my Brothers have. I’m honestly not that interested in sorority girls, but I’m around them constantly and want to be more popular with them, because hey who doesn’t?

For the record, I’m good-looking and in good shape (I play lacrosse), I just want to max out my potential. Ironically, in high school I was the exact opposite - very outgoing, very arrogant, and very popular. I’m not sure why I changed, maybe just part of growing up and becoming more mature, who knows.

I’m not totally sure exactly what I’m looking for, because all the products have their advantages. But I’m thinking about starting with to-gos of A314, Ammo, possibly IO (mostly for myself, I rarely initiate conversation - not out of shyness, I just don’t talk a lot), or maybe IJ instead (may help me be more authoritative?). Just figured I’d throw that out there and get some opinions. Also, would it be better to get A314 A or B? As a student I don’t have a lot of extra $$, so I need to make well-informed decisions.

All questions/comments welcomed! Thanks!

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Welcome to the forum.

It’s good to see your enthusiasm and that you did some research on your own. There is a wealth of information available to you here.

As for your questions, A314 (both the oil and spray), Ammo, IO, and IJ are all excellent products. All of the consumer line products that Androtics offers are. It is important to find what is best suited to your goals, especially since your money situation is tight. We are fairly similar in age, fitness, and personality so I think I can offer a decent assessment of how these and other products will work for you.

Firstly, buy Instant Shine. It will be your staple. It makes most mixes better and rarely hurts a mix. It won’t deliver the most in-your-face results but eventually you will see how it subtly helps everything you do.

Ammo is another great staple. I personally don’t use it much but it contains sexual, social, and respect pheromones to make it balanced and it’s also subtle enough to be used daily and in most situations without being offensive or garnering negative reactions.

There is a good chance that Instant Jerk will help you get laid more. But it can also lead to more bitchiness from certain females and more hostility/aggressiveness from males. It’s really fun to play with but it’s not a versatile, daily product.

Instant Openness is a great product but it will also serve to detract from your authority and help put you in more friend zones.

I use A314 almost every single day but I will say that it has it’s disadvantages. The respect it brings can also intimidate and will cause many people to be less likely to approach or initiate conversation with you. It can help create attraction in women but you may never know because they think you’re out of their league. It can also make you appear more serious. It helps me in my work environment but it might not be the best for a party. I would suggest reading more about A314 and Instant Gentleman around the forum to try to get a better idea of which is better for you. The oil version of A314 is more subtle and longer lasting. I have never used the sprays but A is the stronger version so you’re getting bang for your buck but you might not need that much bang in the first place. If you decide to purchase A314 spray, I would suggest B. If you find you get your best results with more than one spray you can get A when you run out but I usually stick with one or maybe 2 drops of the oil myself (1 spray of B is as potent as 1 drop of the oil).

Overall, I would recommend IS, Ammo, and either A314 or Instant Gentleman depending on which you feel is better for your uses. Make sure that you try each product individually and in different amounts before you start mixing so you can find your “sweet spot” for each.

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Hi there, welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I started out the same as you, trying to find a forum where genuine discussion took place. AD wasn’t the first vendor I stumbled upon, but they were the first one that I ordered from. And that was largely because of the support offered here in the forum.

Bare in mind that the suggestions that follow are based on what you’ve given us. When you say “I’m not totally sure exactly what I’m looking for, because all the products have their advantages” you are absolutely right, but it makes our suggestion making more difficult!

As you’re somewhat of an introvert, and you’re surrounded by alpha male types, I’ll make three suggestions.

Definitely try a togo of IO. You say you want it for yourself, but it will affect everyone that you come into contact with. The main ingredient is alpha androstenol, which is great for parties, meeting new people, or general small talk. I have to disagree with TheBoogieMan a little bit on this one - being talkative does not necessarily put you in the friendzone. So long as you’re showing interest (carefully, you don’t want to come on TOO strong, but your target has to know you’re interested) it won’t detract at all. In fact, it will help open the conversation up.

Next, I’ll second Ammo. This a great all round product. You can wear it like a cologne in virtually any environment. I use it most days, and you’ll notice the IOIs right off the bat. If you were going to drop coin on any product in a 30ml size, this should be it.

Third I’ll agree with Boogie that A314 might not be for you. Sure, it may help you, but it’s sort of (not always) a business application pheromone. If you were in a leadership position in your fraternity, or you were working in a supervisory role at your job, it would be a great purchase. I think what you’re looking for is probably IG. I’ve had great success with IG and Ammo in a 1:1 ratio.

I wouldn’t purchase IJ until you’ve had a few phero “hits”, done your sweet spot testing and experienced an intentional OD with a more moderate product. IJ from all accounts is basically an intentional OD without having to spray 4-5 sprays of ammo or whatever. Not that you can’t buy it, just that it probably won’t garner the effects you’re looking for.

Anyway, welcome to the forums. If you’re so inclined, you can report your experiences in our Journal subform (over in Mens) for others to learn from. I for one would be interested in hearing about your experiences introducing pheromones to Greek life.

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

You have gotten some pretty good advice here so far but I will add in a few comments of my own.

Ammo - yes

IO - yes

IJ - not what you are really looking for

There is a thread in my signature block that talks about the differences between IG and A314. Give it a careful read. A314 will give you a strong alpha leader vibe. But then you have to be that strong alpha leader. If that is not really you go with the IG. It will give you a cool, calm alpha at rest kind of signature which comes avross as a leadership style in its own and is often very attractive to the ladies.

Also think about IH. It generates feelings of connection and trust and often leades to deeper discussions. Pairs nicely with IO. The IO opens it and the IH carries it through. Plus I am sure you are aware that most women want to feel emotioanlly connected to you before they phsycially connect with you.

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Welcome to pherotalk Jamaicanbacon!

I like that name btw! I get what you are saying and my amazing team of pheromone experts have spoken.

I know you will get some products here that will help in your situation I just hope you shar your experiences with the rest of us.

Your gc was issued!

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Thanks everybody, I think I’ll wait till payday and buy the newbie killer kit so I can play around and see what works best for me. I’ll be back soon enough to start a journal.