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Hey all,

I’m 27 years old, from Wisconsin, and possess the privileged status of being college educated, slim, and attractive on the days that I care. My style is simple - undetectable makeup and fabrics that don’t jump out. I wear warm essential oils (with heavier base notes on days I’m feeling seductive) and typically skip the deodorant (I never wear aluminum deodorants, ever). I am inspired by appearances that are elegant and simple, with animalistic undertones.

I’ve found that my vibe often entices the distant crushing of softer men. I feel like I confuse or somehow threaten the more insecure of the manly-type of men, which is generally fine by me, because I do not desire their company anyway. I’ve dated these types, and it always ended terribly.

The pheromones I naturally produce during my lh surge are wonderful and enabling. Not only do I feel great on the 14th day, but my interactions with others are pleasant and genuine. That’s why I’m here - to find something I can use all month long.

My current boyfriend (who I love, dearly) tells me my overall vibe is mysterious. He says that while it’s alluring, when it’s combined with assertive qualities and intelligence, it’s very intimidating. This makes sense - all of my relationships and friendships with male-individuals have been initiated by me, and this is tiring.

I don’t want to change my identity to make my interactions less one-sided. I don’t want to wear nauseating girly perfume, barbie colors, nor change my hair color and pretend I’m shallow just to be approachable in social/work scenarios. I also don’t want to fake the ‘hey man, she can hang’ personality consisting of too-cool-for-school vibes and apathetic shrugs. Although that’s the most effective way to reassure dudes that I’m ok to chat with, it’s a mask. And it gets complicated with other women around, because they hate that crap.

The tiny bit of research I’ve done landed me at this website. I ordered the Instant Female Wardrobe and received my shipment 3 days later (well done, shipping and receiving!). I’ve played around with Instant Sexiness A by itself and in various combinations with Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, and Instant Shine. I wore Instant Sexiness B by itself for one day. I spritzed these scents under my armpits and behind my neck, never exceeding 2-4 sprays per. I wore the sprays along side a homemade tonic consisting of bergamot and orange (to compliment the spray’s neroli). Today I wore sandalwood + ylang ylang + tiny bit of jasmine with Instant Sexiness A. I am also on day 21 of the month, so my natural scent is becoming less attractive, exponentially-so.

I was also shipped a sample of p102 which I probably won’t try after reading threads tagged with p102 on the forum - I do not need to be more serious or enhance concentration. These are traits I naturally possess, and I cannot imagine the trainwreck of an anti-social bookworm I would become with p102.

I haven’t necessarily seen anything out of the ordinary with any these sprays, besides possibly a little decrease in attention from my boyfriend. I am willing to continue to experiment with certain strengths, but so far, it’s apparent that these pheromones are not working well with my own body chemistry. Not sure what to do next, your advice is welcome!!!

p.s. Pick-up artist type men are the most hideously disgusting creatures on earth - that vibe turns me and every other emotionally-sound woman away instantly. If we get that vibe from you, we’ll be creeped out and walk away. If forced to interact, we’ll have one hand in our purse, prepping our pepper spray bottle, and the other will be positioning our car keys between the knuckles of our fist. Women have an uncanny ability to see your intention with our EYES - so be respectful!

Anyway, I felt the need to get that off my chest right away, because I saw some of that sh*t in this forum. Thanks <3

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hello there,

from what you’ve said about yourself, you remind me of one girl who’s been very close to me some time ago. Also, this is the best and most elaborate introduction post I’ve seen in a long time - thank you for this.

One thing that popped out to me - I don’t think spraying pheromones in your armpits is a good idea. Of course, that’s one of the nature-intended spots, but these synthetic ones are designed to be applied to a well-exposed area, easy to diffuse.

There are some products that would make you appear less intimidating and more approachable without compromising the important qualities of your personality. I haven’t used too many of the putatives and experimones, but from what I have tested, P74 and P83 come to mind. With other products I was always going for a high-status trustworthy vibe, and those two were always able to buffer the intimidation factor while maintaining the alpha status. And yes, I’ve read pretty much everything that is to read from the PUA “gurus”, and while I understand and partially share your sentiments, I must admit that it was (after some filtering through my own intelligence, sensitivity and views) a good study on certain aspects of life, not only boy-girl romantic situations. But I digress.

In the Women’s section of the forum, there’s quite a few really experienced ladies who tested everything and have a vast knowledge on the subject. Some of the guys will be helpful too, although many of the more subtle products don’t work quite the same for women as they do for men. Please read up some more. And do some research on the application points! Your mileage may vary, but I feel that armpit thing may be counterproductive.

About the dimished attention from the boyfriend - it may have been confusion caused by your pheromone signature being changed too rapidly. In such case, people don’t know what to make of you, and become somewhat distant.

Anyways - enjoy your stay here, welcome to the Pheromone Talk :slight_smile:

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Hey Marihino

Thanks for your reply. And thanks for the product recommendations - I’ll read up a little more. I’ll probably spend some time in the women’s section taking notes and making decisions before my next order.

One skeptical explanation for the diminished attention from the boyfriend can be possibly due to own hormone cycle - ladies definitely lose some of their appeal when progesterone surges in the luteal phase.

What really interests me is products that contain details about their contents (for instance, I don’t want to be screwing around with my endocrine system by regularly applying chemical compounds that interfere with the regulation of my own hormones). I’m not sure if that sort of thing is available for sale? Also, does anyone ever talk to their doctor/practitioner about using pheromones?

As for PUAs, I think the best place to learn seduction is from the women themselves? they typically know what they like, after all. And, in general, women don’t like creeps - like those who’ve been studying/analyzing them in preparation to make a move. Natural, pleasant, and unplanned interaction is best. Anyway, we can leave this digression :slight_smile:

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Welcome Scharpentanz,
Im sure some of the ladies will chime in to give you some recommendations soon. I really cant speak to the ladies Pheros for obvious reasons.

I can speak to the question/comment re screwing around with your endocrine system, as I am a fairly regular user of pheros for about 3 years now, although full disclosure–I am no clinical expert as to their effect on your endocrines.

I am pretty in tune with my body, and I would be the first to dump pheros if I felt they were having an adverse affect on me. The pheros used here as you can see are very small doses, and do not pass through the skin into the blood stream. I would classify them more as “mood enhancers” although that is not totally accurate either. They give you that personal edge, if you will, to help you with personal interactions, whatever they may be, for instance:
-Increase social confidence
-Attract opposite sex (or same)
-Project a positive aura
-Encourage communication
-Etc.

Everyone uses them for their own personal reasons, and some of them you may not agree with, but to each his own I always say. Some use them strictly for self effects, and others are more interested in “affecting” (Effecting?) others. I realize that that can sound creepy, but when you think about it, we all do it. For instance, you mention you wear essential oils? Why? My guess is that you want to smell nice to others, and maybe you like the way it makes you smell, and probably feel. (self effects) I personally have used essential oils for years now, and I dabble with my own colognes and make perfumes for my girlie friends and my Mom and Sisters. In fact that is how I stumbled upon this site and got started with pheros. I was looking for something to add to my mixes to give them a little oomph.

As far as the freebies you received, and mones in general, I highly recommend trying them for yourself, and play with the dosages. Everyone is different, and some people need more (or less as I found out with P75) to get the results they are looking for. Also, maybe try them first without reading what others say about them. I know its hard, I am analytical as well and its just the way my brain works. But the last few times I received a freebie sample of a putative I have tried it a couple of times without reading up on what others have said, and just focussed on how it worked for me. What I felt like. How it effected others around me…then I compared my notes with the forum. Its a different way of looking at things. Give it a try..

As for the PUA artists on here, I have to agree with you. Its not my style. I was/am an introvert and one of my main uses with pheros is to help me approach women with confidence so I dont have to resort to pick up lines etc. It gets me over that little mental barrier so I can get the conversation going.

So with all that being said Scharp…“Whats your sign baby?” :smiley:

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Hey CelticPrince,

Thanks for your comments. Also, the effects affect everyone differently - hehe, sometimes I have to look those words up, too!

I use essential oils both for therapeutic purposes and for fragrance because I cannot tolerate most perfumes - everyone’s walking around smelling like a Cosmo magazine! It’s too intense, and too unnatural. I prefer to smell earthy and musky and human - sadly, these smells have become exotic these days.

The reasons for my recent interest in pheromones are due to the social factor and for professional reasons. The social reasons are clear to me - I’m not a very approachable gal and my personality is kind of intense (I have a degree in philosophy and ethics, meaning… I usually always have a well-thought-out opinion that I can articulate well). Funny - I had a conversation with a girlfriend yesterday about how to get one of my friends to stop coming over all the time. I said, “You know…I’m not very confrontational.” And she said, “REALLY??? That surprises me!” So I receive regular verification from others that my personality is intense.

It’s week 2 for my experimentation, and there have been a couple possible results. The most obvious was with Instant Sexiness. My boyfriend, who came home in a foul mood and was bitching about work, stopped in mid sentence when I sneakily reached over him (purposely wafting the pheromones) to say, “damn, you sure are sexy.” I’ll call it a hit maybe - though, I can’t help my analytical mind from thinking, correlation does not equal causation! Or, placebo!

Although sexiness is nice, I’m not necessarily looking for increased sex-appeal, just a more pleasant and attractive appeal in general.

I just ordered p74 and mx135 to add in to this experiment. I guess we’ll see…

And uhh..my sign? I mean..I guess I’m a Sagittarius if that’s what you mean… Looks away, figures it out. Then turns, shakes it off, and starts walking

lol PUA grossness :wink: