It’s been a few years since I’ve shopped hear and the price of IO has really gone up. I’ve never used it. Is IO/IH worth the price?
Sure just buy the Togo’s!
IO is a very useful phero in a lot of ways - esp if you need to moderate/socialise overt none or potentially edgy products like P75 or P79. I always try to keep a bottle for this porpose.
And it is very bright and social on its own and good to help with conversation - my only concern is that it can be superficial compared to IH but that still means it is great in places like loud clubs where your opportunity for conversation is limited and IO does not IME go at all well with A314.
IH - one of the most valuable pheros here IMO. Complements A314 superbly, deepening its trust aspect nicely. Also moderates overt none effectively and when steered with IS, it is a far better quality/mature conversational vibe compared to IO.
IH also helps promote bonding and that “it was just meant to be” feeling that many women do go-on rater strongly - again, IS steering helps nicely here.
I also find IO and IH combine fantastically together.. provided your in an upbeat mood before you put it on conversations can be serious and still fun.
IO IMO is not worth the money, yes it is useful to moderate certain molecules and certain mixes and steer them into a more social upbeat direction, but as a standalone it only has one single dimension and that is verbal diarrhoea, there are plenty of multi faceted social blends out there that are the whole package but still only half the price, if it’s a good social in general your looking for shop around is my advice, there is plenty to choose from out there.
Some of us are shy Ghost and we need others to do their part talking.. if it gets verbal diarrhea you know those people are gabbers and can quickly avoid them… but I find mixed with ammo it gets just ENOUGH talk for me and thats at 3 sprays. 
It’s not that IO is a bad product, its just not worth that kind of money if you have to mix it with something else to get good social results and not just a torrent of verbal meaningless bullshit.
There are so many social products out there that produce much more natural social enhancements, without coming off as beta and clown like which for me is exactly what IO does.
How about listing some? Let’s hear some alternatives.. I agree IO on its own is not great but when mixed with other mones I think I get great conversation and its not meaningless.
Sure there are products like True Love, IH etc that foster deeper and more meaningful conversations but IO is meant to increase the flow of conversation not the quality. It does what its intended to do.
When you’re with a date and IO gets you some meaningless gab at least it offering more than silence and from that gab you can steer your way through conversations by asking interesting questions. I don’t find it beta when mixed with IH ammo and IS.. Not beta at all and I use 3 sprays…
Then again I used it after pumping some serious iron and taking a CNS stimulant before going out so I was very aggressive deep down inside (not beta even before any mones).
I get many benefits from Instant Shine. It is affordable enough for me to use as a daily product in the 30 mL. After lots of testing, I’ve decided that’s what works best for me. However, IO is excellent in some situations–even if not as a daily product. 3 sprays of IO can work wonders at a New Year’s Eve party, especially if you’re a stranger there.
The ANOL and BNOL ExperiMone could come close to approximating IO or IH. The ratio should probably not be less than at least 30% of one to the other. A shot of IS should be in the IO or IH substitute mix. The secret steering molecule in IH is unknown. However, any comfort molecule, like TAA, could be the basis of your own experiment. The evolution of Androtics products incl. BNOL, CTTM, CTTM2, and TAA toward Spaceland, IO, IH and IShine gives some insight into potential directions you could take it.
Purchasing the straight IS, ANOL & BNOL, for about $100, gives you some facsimile of the 30mL IO and IH, but it will not be identical. IO is very worthwhile for blatant ice breaking and good feelings, you just sometimes need lots of it.
A product costing over $100 dollars that is not great on its own is not worth the price tag, if you have to spend more money on other products to make it great does not make economical sense, when I can spend $50 dollars on a single product that has all the bases covered In terms of desirable social affects.
I have found that I use IH more than I used IO. If you’re going to spend the money, I would go with IH.
This:
is another rationale behind why and where you might use heavy ANOL, especially if you’re already a frequent IShine user (me). I moving into more frequent Shine sprays with the 30 mL. If self and other-person effects diminish, time to look at swapping out IO for Shine occasionally. It’s just trading one NONE-buffer for another. Some putatives are also poss. NONE buffers and maybe cheaper than ANOL.