I was wearing a314, p74 and IH for a specific target. I heard it’s a good one to establish an emotional connection. I believe this target had a crush on me before using mones so I figured the emotional connection thing would be a good thing to have in our first legit moment hanging out and I think I was getting the intended hits at the beginning of our hang out session however later down the road we start to hang out with other people who are mutual friends and all is dandy at first but then it seems like one of the guy starts to kind of try and embarass and it kind of worked because some members of the rest of the group including the target kind of joined in the teasing. I was able to brush it off and it died off quickly but I was legit embarassed and by the end of the day the closeness between me and the target was not the same. Is it possible that these unwanted effects would effect future interactions with the people involved in it or should I not worry too much about that one situation?
also what do you think might have caused the unwanted effect.. lack congruency?(in my opinion I don’t think I messed up on this part) is it maybe one of the stuff that was used in the mix not really working for me?
When I interacted with people 1 on 1 I got the sense of respect including the people in said group but when it went to group interaction I wouldn’t get that feeling of respect from them.
The male friend was probably reacting to your new phero-signature - in particular the A314. It upped your respect level and he was trying hard to “put you back in your place” as he feels he is superior or at a bare minimum did not like your newly elevated status. Very basic behavior.
If she is pretty mature and you displayed good humor about the ribbing, then you may well have come out ahead. Emotionally mature women like guys who can laugh at themselves and can take a joke. Try the mix on her again without your friend and it will probably go well.
If a friend cracking jokes about you is enough to turn her off to you, as opposed to thinking your friend was being a jerk by constantly riding you, then you may have dodged a bullet.
I’ve been using the a314 for about 2-3 weeks now and didn’t really have an issue like that before that guy also has been around me while I used a314 too and like I said one on one it’s all great it’s when we get into a group setting that I feel like the respect dies down not just on him but on the majority of people in general.
I don’t care about screwing up with the girl too much it’s more would the teasing behavior that they displayed continue is more what I am asking for. I don’t want that to be a common thing and would like to try my best to make sure it doesn’t continue
I should add the group setting issue is something that has only happen recently since I started adding mones to buffer a314 into the attraction path. I like p74 with a314 because I do get some pretty intense IOI from girls but the group issue started being a problem after I added that. I’m thinking of only adding p74 when I am dealing with someone on a one on one basis.
I have to ask how much in MCG of P74 to A314? It is possible to over buffer the A314 with P74. What I would do is try a setup of A314/IH and see what happens with this setup and then go from here. If the A314/IH goes well I would introduce the P74, but at a much lower dose.
only one spray I think at 7.5 though not sure. I had 3 drops of a314 though.
That’s quite a lot of A314 and quite a high proportion of A314/P74.
Whilst it would be viable in a professional environment, in a lighter/more social situation I could see how it might bring-on some shit-testing from guys. Maybe try reducing the A314 or increasing the P74, or maybe adding-in a little Androstenone, something fairly unbuffered like TUTH.
Also remember that the emotional engagement effects of A314/IH/P74 take time to really take hold. It may take several exposures before it starts to manifest itself, although it is a useful moderator in other ways.
The one rule in these type of situations is:
Whoever reacts, loses.
You need to learn to not react at all, smile (slightly), keep eye contact but DO NOT say anything.
Let the other guy talk, the more he talks while you refuse to acknowledge him, the more he lowers his own value compared to yours.
Let him really dig his own grave. Then, once he realises he’s losing and shuts up, you SLOWLY turn your head away from him and say something completely non-related, as if he doesn’t even exist.
Game, set, match.