And if so how much? I’m not asking for the whole formula, just interested in trying it out with MX301 which has 5mcg per spray and I’d like to know if 297 has none and how much so I can plan my doses to avoid OD.
No one knows the exact formula of MX297 - but from testing it I’m utterly convinced there’s anone in it. Probably just a little bit more than Ammo, but accounting for buffers it could be even higher than that. I don’t understand why you would want to mix to MX’s with each other. MX297 is one of the most complete mixes I’ve ever worn, and MX301 is a pretty formidable mix itself too. I say use them as standalone. If you feel you need more anone with MX297 then just add some straight anone rather than add two standalone mixes together.
Wildflower,
I don’t know what it is, but I’ve gotten the most blatant results with AMMO and IS added on, equal sprays from full 30ml bottles. I’ve had great results from 297 but for some reason adding that mix intensifies it.
I’m of Asian descent, but also I’m physically fit. So it’s been so hard to fine my anone OD amount with it. But for some reason there being a sweet spot for me when it comes to adding more and buffering. Any thoughts on that
off topic but I noticed you have 4X honesty. Hows that working out 4 u? and wats the max sprays you’ve used?
Haven’t used the 4x yet. I’ve done 2-3 when I meet with clients, I haven’t really used it in social situations because I still don’t have a full handle of how beta nols work with me and my personality yet. I’ll update that on my journal once I’m done.
rone, none, anol… what else?
given the hungry looks i get from chicks when i wear 297 I think it would be reasonable to conclude atleast 5mcgs/spray + some possible amplifiers or disinhibiters (P83 anyone ?)
I’m really leaning toward some sort of disinhibitor being in there. As far as single products go it’s the only one that has gotten me blatant kino initiated by women. Lots of taking hold of my arm, resting their hand on my chest etc. I won’t say it’s the strongest attractant (I’m really feeling MX301 for that) but it’s the one that makes women the most inclined to show it.
why does Steve say it is beta-boy stuff? I am confused? Betas don’t get attention from girls…
I’m leaning towards a yes, on both of your assumptions. I’ve used P83 with MX297 with not much additional benefits, but when I took it out of the equation and used A314, there were the same benefits, which leads me to guess that there might be. However, it could also have some P74 P79 effects to it with some TAC, or like Steve said TAL ish properties.
I still have limited experience on the putatives so its hard to guess, but it could also be a higher dose of bnol in there.
Steve is probably right when it comes down to the molecules involved. But people react differently to molecules and how it works with their body chem. There are so MANY variables out there. Look at the differences in demographics too, it could be womens preferences, and regional differences on what’s attractive.
Steve may have a point there if he said so.
I realized that this one gives best results with a little A314 and AMMO to it. but its the presence of A314 which is most noticeable when added.
so if presence or absence of A314 in the mix can make a very noticeable difference, then certainly 297 lacks some of the alphaness of 314 a.ka has some betaness although I have not noticed any betaness directly.
another thing: once when I went from Heavy AMMO 3x as against 2x along with 2x 297 and 2x IH I got heavily shit tested. The girl took a U turn once I began using added A314 along with it
I’d like to know of the -none content also. When applying this mix, there is blatantly a heavy dose of TAA and Androsterone.
Well like anybody, his conclusions are based on reports not the formulary. Remember that also like P51 said, there are differences in demographics and enviornment as well. I don’t know that there’s enough detailed reports to really say, so anybody who still has some should leave some really good reports to help everyone out.
I will wear it to starbucks during the day time and try to get some feedback on it. I think it can make opening easy, since girls don’t feel sexually threatened. It comforts and gets girls flirtatious though. I will go with TUTH or AMMO for night outings though. What people don’t know is that any time you have ANY type of phero on you get noticed (except maybe anol) one way or another 
In what ways, I can’t say… Plus, in theory no anone = friend zone; however, people get results with even rone and anol, so hey, anything is possible 
i’ve always wore it with heavy ammo 2 sprays min and the mix gave me good results. thats 10 mcgs anone minimum. if there were anone in 297 too then I could have easily overdosed right ?
does that mean there is hardly any anone in 297 ?
I think we try to quantify the androstenone we wear a little too much. You see a lot of people here wear something like 3-4 sprays of MX301 and 1-2 sprays of ammo which would give you a range of 17.5-25 mcgs of none.
Wearing none does depend on age in lots of respects but it also depends heavily on the buffers/steerers being used. Even though the anone in MX301 is equivalent to the anone in heavy ammo its actually more wearable at more sprays due to the other molecules taming it. TUTH is sexual as hell but its only 2.5 mcgs a spray. Not all androstenone formulas are created equal. Pheromones aren’t that cut and dry.
can someone give me a link to Stev’s post on 297
i cant seem to find it through searching
I think the one you are speaking about is in my journal
Thanks Steve .. I’ll dig it up.
I can smell none and I can gaurantee you it’s there in mx297. Stronger than tuth so I would say 5 mcg per spray. I can smell it in 301 too.