That’s a good observation. Interestingly this never crossed my mind. I think you are right.
TAC issue diagnostic and calibrations
So I’ve come to find that I can naturally wear Mix 1, with a multivitamin I must wear Mix 2, but with a multivitamin and cannabis I can use Mix 1 again. But lately it hasn’t been working because my TAC sprays lacklusterly.
So today I’m trying to see if I can counter this issue with the addition of a P or 2.
So I wake up same lifestyle lately and spray mix 1 for work, con <1 day.
Had a half shift today so it was short and the mix 1 was barely working. It mostly worked on older white women and black people which suggests to me it’s too heavy on the TUTH (none).
So after 4 hours I come home and spray 1 spray p96 2.5 mcg neroli and head out for some errands.
Went to dollar store and the effects were weak. Some women made eye contact. Not really ghosting. Younger women least effected. Sparked up a convo with the cashier. She seemed shy. A cute worker walked by and would look my way over and over but never quite land the dihl.
I would sum up the effects as being like having an aura that is like a girl is too shy because I’m too hot in her eyes or tough.
Head off to car and add 1 spray p96 2.5 mcg neroli.
That puts me at 5 mcg.
Get to next store which is a thrift store with some white and some Hispanic women and few Asians. Didn’t notice effects from the Asians, however I was turning heads left and right with the Caucasians and Hispanics. They just kept turning their heads to look at me and they locked eyes. I even felt some chicks checking me out from my peripherals… ahh feels good to be back.
Also the self effects were amazing. I walked around with my head held high and could talk to anyone.
So I hit the club and the tenders are all cute chicks from Caucasian to black Mix. Interestingly I didn’t get any type of dihl or ghosting, but they were all super friendly and acting kind of cute. One of the tenders, while chatting with the others, walks around the counter and comes and stands really close to me.. like really close, seemed she was gravitating. I suppose since the space was smaller the cloud was stronger. These girls seemed a bit disoriented as well. My tender forgot my receipt and what she was doing. Another one was delayed to answer a question. And just their overall look and nature seemed like they were a bit lost.
Head off to my car and spray 1 spray p96 2.5 mcg neroli putting me at 7.5 mcgs
Went to grocery store for a few things.
The effects changed a bit, no real pull to it, as in women weren’t turning to look at me, but once we were in each other’s view we made eye contact. Lots of white women 20s+. Still seemed to have some attraction to it though. When close to these white women they seemed to feel comfortable being quite close. And then on one instance a white woman 40s went to grab something off the shelf near me and when she did she was extremely close to me, just behavior people don’t normally do, then as she stands she is struggling with all the stuff about to drop something says out loud something like ‘oh no!’ So I turn around to help her catch the one falling and I accidentally grazed her breast doing it (inevitable).. she seemed very happy I helped her and not at all like I had just accidentally coped a feel.
+ p131
So I head off to my car..
And spray 1 spray p131 stealth 5 mcg.
Stopped at a department store and there was like one female worker and two dudes. But for what it’s worth the mix didn’t seem to do much if anything.
Conclusion
I’m thinking because of this new found issue that the best thing to do is wear 2 sprays p96 2.5 mcg each. This puts in somewhat between mix 1 and mix 2.
P135 test
Product
Togo P135 5 mcg stealth
Day 1
5 mcg
So I start by doing 1 spray on the left side of my neck. I wait about 10 minutes looking for effects. I’m already in a chill relaxed mood so I’m thinking the p135 increased the relaxation a bit. I’m finding myself just easing in to my recliner with no care in the world.
After about 10 minutes of sitting and waiting for effects I start to get this sick feeling in my stomach - not sure if it’s related to the p135…
10 mcg
I then add another spray to right side of neck and head out for some errands. After about 5 minutes slight pull in my head like the onset of a headache. I’m noticing I’m feeling a bit nonchalant. And whenever this happiness it seems to suggest that something is causing an anti-anxiety effect in me.
When I arrived at my child’s school I felt super confident walking around like no tension or nervousness whatsoever, but not overly confident. One of the teachers seemed to respond well, a black gal, she smiled and looked at me which she usually never does.
I get back home and realize I’ve had this urgency to get things done and be productive, swiftly.
15 mcg
So I add another spray p135, this time to Adam’s apple.
I’m feeling an energy boost slightly with also a sense of mental clarity. I feel like I have focus and determination and nothing can stop me. I feel like it’s easy to get ‘stuck’ on something, like just staring off into the ether..
I can’t put my finger on it but this Molecule seems to make me feel sick and slight headache.. very strange.
20 mcg
So maybe only 10 minutes after the last spray I spray 1 more spray p135.
After several minutes I’m not noticing much of a change.
The feeling I’m having is generally a calm one, just focused and calm, no worries or thoughts or stressors, even though i feel a slight stomach/head ache I’m still just chill about it. It seems that it’s creating a calm around me too as my child seems really calm too.
P135 seems to close my peripheral view as I’m not concerned or paying attention to them.
Conclusion
I thought this Molecule was quite interesting. It seems like a good relaxing Molecule, something to just chill with, or even get some not-so-fun tasks done, because it makes getting things done a breeze.
People seem friendly like this invokes sociableness. It definitely makes me stand upright and speak straightforward. Makes me a little spacey too and slight bodily aches.
5 mcg seemed too little, 20 mcg too much. People only seemed affected from about 10 ft max.
I give this Molecule a 7/10.
When I read other people’s reviews about P135, I can’t help but wonder what the heck was put in my bottle bearing that label. Lol 
. Great report!
Sig update as of today..
So I’ve decided to quit cannabis again. I want to be able to test and get consistent and good results. (Hard to do when I use cannabis regularly).
I’m using my usuals, hawthorn/Eleuthera but I’m using also daily my new multi w/ herbs inside, jiaogulan, and have decided to incorporate hiit back into my life. (Note: hiit affects signature for the day so do at night before bed).
I’m thinking I should switch back to my old multivitamin because the new herbs in this one, I’m not sure how they effect my sig..
P86
So I decided to test some p86. I went to work today con <1, got residue from Mix 2 which effects were lackluster.
So I decided to put p86 on to just test and see what it does…
Sprayed:
2 sprays 12.5 mcg each p86 Togo neroli
Now the mix 2 had me feeling pretty straightforward in a no non sense mood, still somewhat light and happy, but very boss like and yet stern also.
After about 5 minutes from spraying p86 i’m feeling more in a light and good mood.
As time is going by I’m feeling myself lose connection with things around me - meaning I’m disconnecting from caring about anything really. I guess I just feel content like I need nothing.
I’m also feeling a slight heart rate increase (which is rare for me with mones) and it almost feels like nervousness. I stop at gas station and two older gentleman were showing me real respect hits. The Indian clerk was more friendly with me than usual.
After another 10 minutes I realize I’m not feeling nervous type feelings anymore and now I’m walking around like the boss, seemingly not caring about anything but accomplishing my own tasks. Also feeling really chill like nothing is wrong or there are no issues. Definitely feels like there are some beautifying effects.
After another 5-10 minutes I’m just feeling way too relaxed to want to do anything. I also don’t feel like talking at all.
Over the course of the next 2 hours I just felt super relaxed and chill. I didn’t do anything but sit and play on my phone the whole time. No urge or eagerness to do anything really.
Conclusion
This was a very short test, just wanted to pass the time today. The results seemed to suggest that p86 is a very relaxing mone. It can have social aspects to it but mostly I felt relaxed and in a good mood. It also seemed to help with focus and tuning out negativity. I saw beautifying effects too.
Also, with the limited subjects I had I did see p86 turn around negatives from a dud mix. Will have to test more thoroughly but this P looks promising.
Mix 2 1 day sig calibration
So it’s been a day and a half since I last used cannabis. Everything else about my life has been the same.
I wore Mix 2 today at work. (TAC seems to be spraying properly now.. or at least much better).
First off, the first 5 hours of work was away from customers and was just me and coworkers, only one female ‘Icy’. Icy was all over me today, she made remarks about my cock and also was I. We played around a bit too and told each other what to do.
My male coworkers were super friendly and fun. These guys usually are but I can tell it was my mix and my attitude that opened them up. And for the longest time we were just joking and laughing having a good time. I also made a lot of that’s what she said jokes, etc.
The self effects were amazing too. I felt super friendly yet boss like. I was full of energy and was talkative. Yet I was sexy and my language was on point and at times very sexually suggestive.
I head on my break to the store..
At the store I’m getting super respect hits from the Caucasian male clerks. Even some females made some dihl. I actually got quite a bit of dihl today. When I get back to work same types of hits from the women I work with and customers.
Also noticed women and men would gravitate near me and stay there a while.
Conclusion
All in all a good test, I think my sig is still resuming itself from the canna but it’s looking good already.
Mix 2 did what it’s supposed to today at about 75-90%.
Where it lacked was the younger Caucasians.
Building on mixes protocol
So I’ve realized that building upon mixes is super time consuming, inefficient, and wasteful. Lots of product gets used, too many showers.
That’s why I’m giving a new testing method a shot.
Basically all it is is applying the mix to your neck and putting the additions on your wrist or arm. Test the new molecules 1 spray at a time until dosage is discovered. Then wash off arm and try new molecules. Rinse and repeat. Theoretically, one could test several molecules w/ a mix in 1 day.
Mix 2 + p93
So I get home after work (follow up from previous test) and I eat shower and reapply mones, except this time I put the P93 on my left forearm.. 1 spray 2.5 mcg neroli.
Then I head out…
I get to this gas station that has tons of black and black Mix people, nothing really else except Indian clerks. I seemed to have ghosted the black people but the Indian clerks were checking me out, male and female.
Also the self effects were really good like I was on a mission. All the same effects from Mix 2 but extra energy, feelings of happiness, lots of focus like ADHD meds. Also felt super bold and carefree. Mind is at ease and relaxed, and so are muscles. Can talk to anyone. Leaning on walls all cool. Rush to get things done. Am feeling gay as in joyful.
So I’m supposed to go help a friend move and since he lives in a pretty white neighborhood I wanted to stop at the store and test the p93 on Caucasians.
As I’m walking around the store there are tons of white women and I’m getting absolutely nothing! However some ladies didn’t move out of my way and nearly ran into me. So I left because I’m kind of in a hurry. That was weird.
5 mcg p93
So I go to my car and add another spray p93 to right forearm.
I get to next store, same ordeal, packed with white women.
And the results got totally better, now I starting pulling heads. Even some Hispanics responded well too.
7.5 mcg p93
I get to my car and add another spray p93 to left forearm.
Went into another store but this time there was more diversity. At 7.5 mcg p93 I was basically ghosted.
So I head to bathroom and wash off my right arm which had just 1 spray 2.5 mcg.
Now I have just the 5 mcg p93 on my left forearm.
So I meet up with my friend who is a 40s Hispanic man. He was his normal super talkative self. Definitely not standoffish.
I didn’t interact with anymore people after this.
About an hour and a half from initial sprays, I felt a slight crash from the energy effects.
Conclusion
P93 seems to be a good attractant at the right dosage. Surprisingly it mixes well with mix 2.
5 mcg is my sweet spot (with Mix 2). Self effects was mostly energy, euphoria, and amphetamine like effects. Effects I saw on women was mostly attraction, iOis, and especially for white women. Not sure though if Mix 2 is better w/ or w/out p93.
Mix 2 w/ p81
So after work came home showered and sprayed. Con <1 day
Same diet and supps
Slept about 4 hours.
Sprayed:
***Mix 2
2 sprays P81 2.5 mcg each neroli
P81 layered on p96
Went to see Ivy. Got there about 15 minutes after sprays.
And Wow!
Ok so first thing as soon as she opens the door she attacks me, jumps on me is all kissy and touchy. Good start. Then before I knew it I was doing the same! Wth???
I was all over her, but it wasn’t like horniness because I wasn’t thinking about sex, yet I was going crazy on her body. Then we make it to the bedroom and had the most fast-paced, sweatiest session I’ve had as long as I can remember. It was nuts. (No pun intended).
The whole time I was Alpha-man, my alter ego pheromone superhero. Haha I was a straight up dick. I was telling her what to do like nothing, ordering her around, saying things like ‘get on your knees’, and ‘no do it this way’.. etc. she was pretty submissive too. Also I noticed my energy was through the roof and I felt super talkative, we had a longer convo than we normally have.
The session lasted a really long time like i had to work for mines.
Not sure if I can attribute it to the p81 because I’m like that sometimes. It didn’t feel like it helped at all with the erection though. Also while I was feeling all this excitement I also felt a lot of calm about me.
I also felt super euphoric and my movements and words were calculated. I was trying to keep a keen eye on orgasm response and it seemed if anything the p81 slightly delayed orgasms. But very slightly. Like almost neglible.
Everything about my day felt better.
I was on top of the world, nothing got to me, and I sang out loud basically every song on my radio as I drove throughout the day.
After I left her place I hit up Jamba Juice and it had a variety of people. The 40s blonde Caucasian chick in line kept turning around and looking at me. At late 20s black male was looking at me a lot. The early 20s black female behind the counter was super friendly with me. The white and asians chicks working there didn’t look my way - or I didn’t notice.
(Worth mentioning that Ivy did wipe and lick some of the mones however.)
About 5 hours from intial spray I go back to the nice white neighborhood to finish helpin my friend and when i stopped at the gas station everybody was super friendly and made great eye contact with big smiles, and males seemed to give me respect hits. The store had a 30s white male clerk, 3 Indian clerks, 1 female, all about 30-40. And a few white female and male customers about their 20s.
Nearly everybody seemed to notice me too.
Conclusion
P81 is a very awesome Molecule IMO. Effects appear to be euphoria, energy, relaxed, focused, horny, happiness, jerk-mode, rushing/fast paced, witty, sly, anti depressant.
But this wasn’t solo so more tests will tell.
It appears P81 is a good potential candidate for Mix 3.
I only tried one dosage but 5 mcg in a mix seemed enough.
First off hello
I read your journal for the past two days. Pretty impressive stuff - some of which I don’t understand since I’m new to this. One question I have is this, are the pheromones you use scented or unscented? I know you use cologne but didn’t understand if everything was scented and kind of mixed together. I ordered some tuth unscented and have been trying it out with my wife for the last three days. I should get a bottle of unscented ammo today. Does it make a difference one way or the other in your opinion?
Hey thanks man!
I know it’s a super long journal, maybe overwhelming.. I just try to have a place to have all my ideas and experiences jotted down just in case I forget.
I find that I prefer neroli (scented) over stealth (unscented), and not because I think it’s more effective (though sometimes I do think it is) but because I always wear my mones on my neck and the unscented sometimes smells too much of a ‘musk scent’ for my liking..
So therefore I prefer to use neroli.
As for the difference between scented vs unscented, it’s hard to say. I think they are about the same in effectiveness. If anything I think neroli is slightly better by like 10% tops. But that’s probably because neroli naturally makes you feel in a good mood and the scent itself helps the mones travel.
But that’s just my opinion.
I think ultimately, the unscented just helps to not smell so strong.
Bear in mind though I’ve only tried maybe a few unscented products.
P81 solo part 1
So I come home after work, didn’t wear any mones or colognes and just decided to solo test this P81 at home..
Product:
P81 2.5mcg/spray neroli 30ml bottle.
5 mcg
So I start with two sprays to either side of neck.
After about 10 minutes I’m starting to feel like I’m energized, yet calm. Also my brain is functioning quite quickly like as I jot down my notes my mind is just grabbing the words instantly. And I’m writing very fast.
Also, tunnel vision has set in.
Other than that, nothing really else.
10 mcg
I then add two more sprays to my neck.
Wow so I really start feeling energy/focus/amphetamine type feelings.. yet almost like the onset of being ‘high’ at the same time.
Words roll off the tongue. Also easily social like any -Nol. There seems to be feelings of having to say what I got to say. I was having a conversation and I couldn’t help but spit out what was on my mind even if I was interrupting. And there person I was talking to was being super respectful, more than usual. Also feeling a little euphoric, but not o much.. no harsh feelings or negative feelings, so that’s good. This really seems to have some social aspects though.
15 mcg
About 15 minutes later I add two more sprays..
After a few minutes all I could detect was an increase in the previous results.
But after about 15 minutes I found myself singing passionately along with the music on my playlist and the music sounds great!
(So i’m thinking because I wore p81 with TUTH last time I tested it, the p79 in TUTH must’ve amplified it so that’s why I could see these effects at a lower dosage.)
Conclusion
This P81 solo seems to prove self effects of slight euphoria, energy, focus, calmness, social, determined, in a hurry, understanding - yet slight jerkness. Also felt like ADHD type medication.
The jerkness seems to be more like an ‘I got to have my way now’ type of thing.
I agree with the musky scent. I can still smell the tuth from yesterday even after a shower. I was just thinking that I would try the unscented as a sort of test on my wife since I don’t wear cologne. After only 3 days of the tuth I can say it hasn’t had any effect on her. Well she kinda seemed more talkative the 2nd night and she slept a little closer to me on the other side of the pillow wall. I hate that freaking pillow wall! I got the ammo today. Wonder if I should try it by itself or combo with the tuth? What would you do? So far I haven’t tried to make any move, just watching to see if she has any reactions. Also I didn’t think to mention that I’m 48, white male and she’s 42, white / American Indian mix. I’m from Georgia she’s from S. Carolina. Married 20 years with 2 teenage kids. Its not like I’ll be out trying to pick up women but I will definitely like to see what kind of reactions I can get out of them after reading your journal. Who knows maybe even make her a little jealous.
Get you some Molecule C at 5 or 10 mcg per spray. It’s in the store under experimone section.
Use 2 sprays TUTH and test to find out how many sprays of Molecule C goes well with your own body chemistry.
For instance try like this..
First night, spray 2 sprays TUTH, 1 spray Molecule C.. See how the night goes.
Second night, 2 sprays TUTH, 2 sprays Molecule C. And keep doing it until you find the best dosage.
This mix has been long proven to be effective.. for more info try searching TUTH TAC or TUTH Molecule C.
But you should be good with these.
Here’s some good ones…
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?do=showresults&searchid=1284021&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
*P131 solo test * freebie part 1
Product:
5mcg/spray Togo men’s stealth P131
Day 1…
3-7-17
So after usual nights rest, same diet and supplements, continence 1, showered before bed last night, I spray Hedione, and p97 and head to work, then come home and change and leave. Several hours later from initial sprays I spray on p131 and go run some errands.
Sprayed:
1 spray P131 stealth 5 mcg
(To right side of neck)
Unfortunately only about half a spray came out, so ~2.5-5mcgs.
Went to kids school..
Kids teachers seemed to have been ghosted I think.
Added 1 more spray p131 and again to left side neck and only seemed half a spray came out..
So I go to my local health foods store, which was as usual predominately white women.
And I was really focused on finding some things I came for and I felt as though women were really gravitating towards me, like when I walk passed them or they walk passed me, they seemed to stop and then move closer to me, just lingering.
Head off to my car and add another spray p131 to right side neck and a full spray came out this time.
Was going to head to store but saw too many cars, so I changed my mind.
- summary*..
It seemed at 2.5 mcgs it was a ghosting effect
At 5 mcgs it was a female attractant
Day 2…
Woke up went to work, same diet and supps but had some cannabis lately, continence <1 day. Slept full night, came home from work feeling pretty good, wore p97 earlier to work and had Mix 1 leftover from yesterday. Got home ate and medicated (420) and sprayed on p131.
Sprayed…
2 sprays P131 5 mcg each stealth to sides of neck.
I felt like my mood got better and I was happier. A relative of mine was supposed to stop by and the experience with them was not a pleasant one. She was bitchy and sort of rude. My self effects remained the same just a happy and good mood. Didn’t really understand what was going on.
Perhaps p131 brings out the bad in ENone sometimes.
Day 3…
Same habits lately, went to work after full nights rest, came home, con <1 day, showered and sprayed mones and went out.
Sprayed…
3 sprays P131 5 mcg each stealth to sides of neck and Adam’s apple.
Instantly I was put into a happy go lucky mood, joyful and smiley. My head felt light and life felt good.
I go to pick up my kid from school and a Hispanic gentleman 40s standing in front of me, when turning around to leave he looks me dead in the eye nods and smiles sort of big. And he was a true Mexican, with the cowboy hat and all. My child was also in a good mood. Other female teachers within the vicinity approximately 20feet+ away were not seemingly affected.
I also notice my actions are completely on point it seems.
Went to the dollar store and people didn’t really seem affected, at least not women. The men were super friendly with me. Especially the one standing behind me in line, thanking me for something I don’t know what, I was just standing there, but he was thanking me over and over.
3 sprays seems to be good self effect-wise but not really for public with women, but men are super friendly.
Day 4
Same lifestyle lately.
Sprayed 4 sprays 20 mcg total to neck area. (Also had on from earlier 2 sprays 1x TUTH and 2 sprays 10mcg each TAC).
Decided to test some self effects on this one.
So I’m just at home. The p131 is making me feel in a really happy and light mood after about 10 minutes.
After about an hour all I really felt was relaxed and happy. Like almost to the point of forced smiling.
So I decide to add another spray.
putting me at 25mcg..
Within the next 15 minutes I really feel a calm about me. It’s really nice. Like all is well and at peace. A feeling that’s a little contrary to what I usually feel with TUTH/TAC combos.
So a little bit later I add another 5 sprays P131 putting me at 50 mcgs total.
For the next hour I just felt really happy, relaxed and in a good mood. I watched some comedy shows and they had me laughing really loudly so I found it extremely amusing.
I also seem to be seeing things quite blurry.
I felt pretty much at peace the rest of the time.
50 mcgs seemed to cause quite a different effect but I’m not sure how dramatic of a change it was.
25 mcgs seemed like a good dosage for causing feelings of happiness.
Hey JD
So I can’t afford the molecule C right now. I read your post about the TAC and the TUTH. What does the TAC do exactly? I took a screenshot of your evaluations of the mones, but I’m still not sure about the combos. Also with the tuth and ammo the wife is more talkative around me. At night while she sleeps she breaths more heavily when near me ( other side of the pillow wall). If I try to initiate sex she gets all pissed off and threatens to go down stairs. Our marriage is not the greatest, and as long as I don’t try for sex we get along fine. I not looking for a miracle but if I can get a even a little affection that would be Almost as good as sex. A touch or a word can go a long way towards your attitude.
TAC is a buffer
TUTH is a highly sexual product and works best when people are already in the mood or disinhibited.
Because of the Androstenone in it, it can cause aggression. Having a buffer helps making the TUTH more manageable.
Ammo has Nol in it.
Nols are the ‘class’ of pheromones that are responsible for initiating socialness and conversation.
Hence why your wife wants to talk.
Good reports Jdub as always. I am still thinking of making a list of P’s to test out to make a mix 2 and want to come up with very first thing our test and what we should do. I am thinking of using your mix 2 and the exact MCGS of everything you have and I would actually like to keep the App points the same as well so we should be getting the same results. I have tested mix 1 again to verify my sweet spot on the TUTH to the TAC and it is still 5MCG TUTH to 20MCG TAC.
Now with the Hedione I have pure in a 10ML bottle and also have 25% to 70% PA and 30% to 70% PA in 5 ML bottles.
I would like to ask to come up with our basic testing procedures for trying to make a mix 3 with dose for TUTH, TAC, Hedione, and P96. Also App points and what type of Hedione weather it be pure or mixed and at what ration of Hedione to PA.
I have put a lot of time into this and it came to me for us to come up with the what to use, how dosage, app points, etc and anything else you can come up with.
After we do this I will run a test of what you come up with to verify what I am getting, then put together a list of some of the molecules we should test with.
I do not plan on using a cover scent unless I get the same exact one you may have and I plan on using TUTH 1X 6% Neroli and the TAC in 6% Neroli, and the P96 Neroli 6% also.
I would like to make sure we have exactly the same everything and method as well, and would also like to verify what scent and % strength you are using. If we can get all this down then I will run a test of say mix 2 if that is what we will use as our base, then put the list together.
What do you think?