JDubs phero evaluations

[datadragon]

My androsterone levels are also high at the moment, I found in a study I posted in the study section they are related to your dhea levels. So when I use blends now like Ammo or something with androsterone with a further status boost I tend to now get more “Am I in your way” type intimidation hits despite having a friendly face/demeanor and sometimes even can ghost when its too high.

For me I find that using buffers like Hedione or Androstadienone, P96, IS, Epiandrosterone, IO or A/B Nols etc it buffers my signature back down and start getting good hits again.

Some guys have low natural pheromone levels, they tend to use things like 2x ammo, and in those cases seem to need more sexual/status mones and less buffers or socials in a mix to bring their signature up. Should they use just a lot of hedione or alpha androstenol for example, they may come off as weak and beta since the natural signature isnt too strong to balance it and should likely use some androsterone/androstenone to balance. Ammo Summer Edition with its extra buffers would be good for me to bring my signature down but Ammo would be the right choice for those who need to bring the signature up. I have to use IS or other buffers with Ammo as it adds too much alpha to my high alpha base signature and got good results with that combo of Ammo/IS. Those who dont get good hits with Ammo likely have the same issue of needing more buffers.

Its all just a balance where the middle gives the best hits, not too alpha to come off intimidating and not too beta to come off weak and too friendly. Once I finally learned that I found I could make most all blends work by adjusting more sexual/status or more social/buffers. Most of the time for me blends with more social/buffers then status/sexual currently work best.

I will also have to try some androstenone again like my remaining Tuth or Tuth + Hedione to see how it goes again. A few months ago Tuth solo at 5mcg gave me good hits from african americans but everyone else was intimidated, even tried later at 2.5. I moved to copulins but that may not have been needed since my base sig still had sexual/status in it.

[Jdub]

@mobocaster

I’ve found A1 still very effective at 6.25mcg - And at that dose, it works very subtly with any other pheros you might be using - or even standalone, with your own natural signature.

I also used it to help condition myself to A1 - Wear one spray at that dose, in an accessible spot, then when the downers start to hit, wash well and let your mood recover, then reapply,

A few weeks of this and I could do ok with shorter term use of much higher doses

That’s a decent dosage for me as well and I get bad comedown, but the washing off is great advice, it really removes the issue right away. For me at least. But yeah I definitely need to work my way up.

[datadragon]

@Jdub

That’s a decent dosage for me as well and I get bad comedown, but the washing off is great advice, it really removes the issue right away. For me at least. But yeah I definitely need to work my way up.

So I went ahead and tested A1 solo at 125ng, 1 spray to outside of left forearm.

I tested only once so far and it was in a store with predominately (90+%) Hispanic people.

The whole time in there I was getting looks, dihls, and women checking me out. People respected me and moved out of my way, even older men. I walked confidently with purpose, felt calm and determined. I had no trouble standing near or approaching attractive women. My cashier a 20s Hispanic 7/10 cutie with a strong accent, was heavily disinhibited. She took a while to count my change <1$. Major hand kino when exchanging money twice.
I had no issue with hand kino myself.
When I got home I washed off and felt the self effects basically vanish.

Im very optimistic about microdosing A1 . I wonder if going below 125ng is a possibility. I should also mention that I did not feel anything like depression like I usually do from A1 . But it was only 1 short test.

Jdub, both men and women get sensitized to it when you use it in the microgram range with this one pheromone - see the study below. They start to detect it at lower and lower levels, and the scent then also turns from good to bad and men get depression as well. my theory was to instead go into or below the natural body level in the nanogram range as even 100 picograms was shown to have effects as well as we use enhanced diffusion it doesnt need much, which I theorized might have better (due to being like an od with higher levels) or same effects at a natural level as well as potentially not setting off the sensitization issues where both men and women detect it at lower and lower levels and then the scent turns negative as well as the depression on men by being below the threshold hopefully to avoid the ‘od’ like effect. I had gotten down to 1mcg when I mentioned this to you since you are sensitized, and you tried 125ng and found this was working. My suggestion is to continue testing only in the nanogram range or at that same dose to make sure you dont later get depression after say a month of 125ng to confirm. People who use dial magnetic over their whole body several times a week and people who use higher doses even with other molecules that counter the serotonin drop I theorized STILL EVENTUALLY GOT DEPRESSION. Thats why we are testing nanogram only.

https://www.nature.com/articles/1301303

[Jdub]

Hunted part 1

Con 1.25 shower 1
Sprayed 2 sprays 1 to each side of outer forearm
(Clean clothes, no colognes or other mones)

Went to work

First thoughts are I feel confident vibrant energized happy and content
The smell is great, reminds me of an oceany kind of scent
Sniffing up close I fee I detect small amounts of drone and even smaller amounts of enone
This feels and smells like Ammo a bit to me
I’m not sure if the cover scent is new but it’s new to me and I like it
I seem to have about a 30-40ft cloud range
Self effects seem to mostly be content/nonchalant
If this is anything like Ammo then I’m getting good hits because I couldn’t really wear ammo solo only with a buffer

When I get to work
C gives me a warm welcome and is generally herself.
As time progresses C comes and talks to me like she usually does no issue in fact I seemed a lot less eager to talk to her
New girl R doesn’t respond (20s mixed black female)
As a few hours pass I notice lots of people ask me for assistance, mostly 30s+ white and Hispanic women, some men. For the most part people seemed to be a bit quiet and reserved but not at all offput by me nor ghosted nor tried to avoid me or eye contact.
The best way I can describe it is it seems to be like wearing no mones but with an added slight social effect
All in all the best hits came from my age and older white women. They were quite friendly and jovial, little jokes and remarks being made
A 30s Hispanic female cutie asks me for help and is so sweet about it

S comes in and right away as soon as she sees me she cracks jokes like we’ve been lately and laughs hard as usual
I go talk to her for a bit and she just seems very sensual as she does just her body language and facial expressions along with her voice and words - just sounded sexy what she was saying
And she seemed to try to help me with what I was trying to do like that extra attention

I didn’t really get any dihls or anything like that but lots of women made eye contact when I became in their field of view

Indian liquor store clerk who is super cool to me seemed irritated and POd when I came up and spoke to him and he wasn’t even in a bad mood
He literally did t even answer my question even while looking right at me

Came home and showered and scrubbed like high hell…
I scrubbed most off but I could still smell and feel it a bit perhaps will take a few scrubs throughout the day to be able to be close to removing it all

The effects at this point are less in your face but still there perhaps even better for myself because I seem to get more looks from a wider range of people

If I were to guess I would say this seems certainly similar to Ammo if not almost the same

Conclusion:

My guess is this is really like Ammo
The scent is a little better/more tolerable than regular Ammo
At 2 sprays has a nice 40ft range
Seems to affect Hispanic, Asian and older women best (friendly, dihl, eye contact, jovial/joking)
Younger Caucasian women seem to be hardly affected (but not negatively)
However on one 20s Hispanic female cutie I know it is like major hit city for her)
Men seem respectful but reserved
Self effects are confident, energized, bold, content, happy, little reserved
Will need more tests and different dosages
Level 5 washing difficulty (1-10)
Last 6+ hours
Rating 7/10

Positives:
Good self effects for tasks and generally good for older women attraction

Negatives:
Hard to wash off, self effects ?too content? to respond to flirting

[Jdub]

Charisma part 1

Con 2.5 shower 1
Woke up and went to work no mones or colognes, clean clothes
Sprayed:
2 sprays Charisma, 1 to each outer forearm

First thing I notice is I smell what smells like pissy eRone, very strong when I spray but as it settles and dries I don’t really smell it as much anymore unless sniffing my arm up close..

So far the self effects are cool calm energized happy good mood

As soon as I get to work S is all over me standing close, laughing hard, lots of jokes, just generally being herself that she never shows when she’s here (but only to me with good mixes on)… crazy good hits..
As time progresses the hits just keep coming strong from S
It seems R again is non responsive…
The self effects are great just pretty happy and determined to complete tasks
A few 30s+ Caucasian women sought my assistance and were very friendly, talkative, and made good eye contact. A couple jokes here and there and even when I was done talking they seemed they had to really get out what they wanted to say and were very appreciative of my help
Also I found myself very helpful and enjoying being very helpful and kind..
A few looks borderline dihls from some 20-40s Caucasian women..
R still no response

As time presses I noticed I get a wif of the mones and I feel like I’m definitely smelling erone

I seem to be getting a few more looks from older women and many seeking my assistance. I’ve also noticed (not just today but in general) S seems to change her attitude when I talk to other women near her, like she doesn’t like me talking to them haha
I find myself being very gentleman like all day

7 hours after application and I’m still getting hits. I still smell the mones (from a close whiff) and it still smells really like Erone, real armpit pissy kind of smell..
However at this point I’d say the smell is about 40% what it was from when I first sprayed

At about 10 hours I still smell it.
I shower and scrub it off and get about 75% off afterwards. Now the self effects seem pretty died down.
Hung out with a friend 20s white male and he was super respectful and his dogs were also to me

Conclusion:

-This thing reminds me a lot of IG with perhaps some moderators in play as well it feels more natural, smooth, and social than did IG
-I saw IGs effects before but I couldn’t really wear it solo without being perceived as beta, but with this Mr Charisma I can wear it solo and get great hits
-I’m not even much of a fan of Erone based products but this one is impressive
-For self effects it seems to promote energy confidence happiness friendliness gentleman like demeanor, makes me straight to the point and get tasks done
-effects on men seem to be respect and friendliness
-seems to have a mediocre cloud as I only seen hits from when women were up close
-effects on women (Hispanics and older caucasians) seem to be friendliness, attraction, thankfulness, great eye contact/dihl… no effects really noted from blacks and younger Asians/caucasians (perhaps due to lack of enough interactions)
-8/10 rating , definitely recommended
-10-15 ft cloud
-washing difficulty 3 (1-10)

Positives:
great attraction and friendliness from older caucasians and all Hispanics (women)
Great attitude, energy, and drive

Negatives:
Cannot stand Erone smell perhaps needs a cover
Not very useable for younger Caucasians attraction wise