Thanks Conj! Haha I got to see the other sides perspective, science I’m too curious XD
Mix 1 and 2 differences
Ok so I thought Mix 1 and Mix 2 were generally on the same level, if anything mix 2 is superior but effects mostly the same. But I have found they actually are quite different. I had noted in the past that mix 1 was a solid ons lander, and it is, and so I thought Mix 2 was also, that is… until I ran into this redhead. Ok so this chick and I have been a little flirty then when I finally got her alone I decided to go Mix 2. And boy did Mix 2 hit her. She was all lovey dubey, hanging on me, holding me, wanting to cuddle, wanting to kiss like crazy, cooking for me, buying me stuff, etc. but when it came down to business she hesitated and was uncertain. It was actually quite embarrassing for me as I made a move and she rejected it. I was not getting anywhere near the inside of her pants. I scratched my head for a while and said F it, I’ll wear Mix 1 next time. Haha wow what a difference. The next time we were alone I wore Mix 1 and she was totally different. Climbing all over me, touching like crazy, and then touchdown! It was too easy this time. Afterwards she literally told me I was just too irresistible.
Conclusion
I believe Mix 1 and Mix 2 are almost the same.. but Mix 1 is far more sexual and Mix 2 holds a high level of passion and closeness and comfort. Mix 2 is better daytime use, mix 1 better for ons. Mix 2 is far better for work and social. Also, this is inconclusive, but I believe Mix 1 is better for ons with Caucasians and Mix 2 is better for ons with Hispanics, based on testing.
Interesting test day
So I recently made up a new batch of HedioneS, not even a full 24hours mixed and wanted to wear some. I sprayed some on my neck about 3 sprays and they were heavy duty I could smell Hedione so strong. Now some background is I showered yesterday afternoon. Applied mix 1 yesterday and slept without washing off, con 1, same same lately.
Well when I got to work I knew my whole phero sig at this point would be quite favorable to most people but especially miss shun.
Wow but to my surprise the extra Hedione sprayed made things so much better for miss shun. She kept dihl me and eye contact and coming near me etc. things that seem so hard to get her to do.
Now I’m quite certain she really likes Hedione.
Mix 1 test and interesting results
Background:
So I woke up sprayed mix 1 w/ colognes and went to work. Showered yesterday evening. Con 0, same same except I had a multivitamin yesterday because I’ve need the immune boost, and the only other thin is I had turmeric the last two days
Well at work things were quite interesting. C immediately seemed happy to see me and say hi and stood extremely close. I also started convo with me (not usual) and even the new chick said what’s up to me.
Later on C walks fast to catch up to me and then smacks me with something she’s holding! Damn! Totally not her type of behavior. She’s all playful haha.
As the day presses I’m finding not much dihl but women get flustered around me especially all the Hispanics. I keeps talking to me. S keeps being really close to me and giggly when she talks to me.
I feel like this combo is good for Hispanic young chicks.
Later I just get crazy good hits. Men being respectful. A coworker of mine bought a drink and insisted on sharing with me. C has been super friendly and touchy. R seemed quite taken by my presence. Got some dihl, and a pretty strong solid state from a tall hot early 20s blonde. A older blonde when saying excuse me said it like a little girl.
Just crazy good hits.
However some white women seemed standoffish and one 50-60s one said excuse you to me for not a good reason.
So it could be that mix 1 w/ a multi taken the day/evening/night before, may just result in a mix 1 that mega hits Hispanic women.
Instant sexiness A self test 1
Background:
Decided to test IS/A neroli 1x Togo, sprayed after taking a shower.
I start out with 1 spray to left wrist.
The smell smells like cool waters with a touch of neroli.
First things I notice is I feel vibrant and happy and slight energy increase. Feeling really good also like tingling feelings inside, like a little excitement, like I’m anticipating something good. I feel as though that when I look at women I feel less of a ‘she’s sexy’ and more of ‘she looks like a nice person’. I want to say that this 1 spray of Is/a is pretty close to 2+ sprays is/b, so it does seem to be quite stronger respectively. I feel as though the A is also way more serious than the B. The B seems playful, whereas the A seems serious but not overtly.
I’m also finding a calm about myself. And very altruistic.
Some time passes and I add another spray to right wrist.
This second spray seemed to be too much. I find myself distancing myself, drifting into oblivion… (I’m guessing this is what ghosting must feel like)… also the onset of a headache..
it’s like all the makes me, me .. is fading. Thoughts of my own seem to disappear as well. Comedy isn’t as funny anymore.
Hard to even formulate words or sentences or thoughts, even jotting down notes. My mind is just super serious now.
Conclusion
Is/A seems to be a great product for women. I feel it’s like women’s A314 so far. I am excited to test on a woman to fully understand it’s effects on me.
1 spray seemed enough, 2 at the most.
At 2 sprays it got too serious for my liking but it may be beneficial on a woman.
At 1 spray it’s like happiness, calm, serious, and a little crushy type excitement.
Awesome and thank you for this!
I am waiting on an order to come in so I can test a list of stuff Gracious provided.
It is so hard to keep up with everything much any more LOL. Thank you again and if you ever need anything I will be around.
Dry test
Background:
Con 1, shower 0, patchouli body wash, multi, canna, ADG, tB
All day it seemed people were a little standoffish, I even felt a bit awkward, only some blondes responded well and were happy and kind and chipper. Some men seemed respectful and about 8 hours after showering I got decent looks from teachers at kids school.
Other than this, not a mix I’d want to wear. Also only miss shun seemed to move close to me, a little.
I have been waiting on an order to move on with testing, but was wondering if you have ever tried Mix 1 or 2 with any A1 or Erone?
I ask this because I have another product that is highly sexual and these 3 mones are in it and this dam thing hits hard sexually and what I like is not only that it hits hard, but I can wear it out for day use to with no negatives and I get the respect from men to like Mix 1 and 2.
I have no idea on what concentrations they are using, but know the blend is these 3 pheromones in it. Because of the Erone it hits the 40+ super hard. I am wondering if somehow we can take either Mix 1 or 2 and just use Erone to adjust it for the older crowd and then maybe use Nols to have it hit the younger crowd and think this is more inline with our race code theory and am very curious on your thoughts on this.
I have not reported to much on this because they are other products besides here, but have all the single molecules from here to test this.
When I have used Mix 1 with CTTM2 I notice it is more the 30 and under crowd that it appeals to. So now Instead of trying to enhance mix 2 and make a mix 3, I am thinking of just taking Mix 2 and looking at just adjusting it for a specific race or age range to get the most out of it.
What are you thoughts on this?
Yes I’ve tried it with eRone but to this day I have never used A1.
If I recall correctly, the eRone didn’t go so well, at least not in the dosages I tried.
Truth be told, I believe I am unable to successfully add ENone, eRone, or Nols to mix 1 or 2 unless they are in small dosages like <1.5mcgs. Anything higher and the mix effects just completely change.
I think after 2 mcgs the added mones become a ‘part of the mix’ rather than just ‘steering’ it. My guess is it’s the p79 in TUTH causing it, so very little amounts of added mones are needed.
With that being said, yes I think it’s a great idea. If the dosages are tweaked just right, it would be nice to add a spray to make the mix lean anyway we want.
I’ve been thinking of similar things lately.. so I’m glad you brought it up.
I’m willing to do some testing on it.
Molecule H self test
Product:
Molecule H 30ml neroli (6%) 2.5mcg
Background:
Residual mix 1 from about 12~ hours, plenty of multis, same diet/lifestyle
(So I’m finally done with the holidays, busy schedules, illnesses, usual winter time stuff… and now I’m excited to jump back into testing, too excited to wait I must start with a self test..)
2.5mcg
So I start with 1 spray to my left wrist. The smell is sweet neroli very pleasant. I spend a significant amount of time sniffing it, getting the usual neroli effects (energy boost, happiness,..) I guess I’m just expecting a ‘softer’ vibe because of it being a feminine molecule but not sure what I’m feeling… after waiting some more I decide to up the dosage.
5 mcg
Added the next spray to right wrist..
wow now I’m feeling a real lightness, tingling, giddy feeling arising.. with an increase in pleasant feelings and thoughts as well… my mind is just being put at ease similar to tac (ever so slightly)… has a sort of lovely vibe like p96…
So far I’m really liking this molecule it just feels good.
7.5 mcg
Next spray again to left wrist but above previous..
As I’m trying to decipher my self effects I’m finding that even though the effects seem to suggest ‘feminine’, I’m not suspecting anything emotional about it, in fact perhaps a deep emotional block.
This molecule certainly is soft. It’s calm, it’s peace, it’s worry free yet-not-quite carefree..
I’m really liking it..
10 mcg
Next spray again to right wrist above previous.. as I spray, the neroli sort of jump starts me some energy then it dies down in minutes and the calm of the H kicks in..
All effects I been feeling have only increased with this dosage..
20 mcg
Sprayed all same sprays again..doubled dosage…
If anything I’d say the effects increased a good amount (~%50+), especially the ‘calm’
But nothing else noted
Conclusion
So far I really like this molecule for self effects.. it puts me at ease and I feel really really good, muscle relaxer good.. calm, happy, softer, patient
If I could compare this molecule to anything I’d say it’s got the calm of (TAC), the soft lovely vibes of (P96), yet the worry free/emotional block of (P97)
5-10 mcg seems an appropriate self effect dosage for myself
It smells really good with the neroli, I imagine the stealth would do great too.. not sure the length of time the H lasts or radius of its cloud, but this was a good self test
Edit
This Molecule H was actually quite sticky. I had a hard time washing it off completely after many attempts.
P91 (solo) test part 1
Product:
P91 30ml 2.5 mcg/spray neroli 6%
2.5mcg
Applied 1 spray to left wrist
First thoughts, very pleasant neroli scent, mood enhancement, no real energy perk but definitely happier
Feeling all the neroli stuff nothing much else
5mcg
Applied 1 spray to right wrist
Immediate increase in mood, alertness, energy, and peacefulness
Got to say this P really does smell exceptionally good
Things are beginning to look more vibrant somewhat muscle relaxing feeling also
I’m feeling like an energy/calm like my mind is at ease but my leg is tapping
Nothing else observed
7.5mcg
Applied 1 spray to left wrist over previous spray
Again the energy increase, etc.
Feeling pretty good nothing much else
10mcg
Applied 1 spray right wrist over previous
Just basically feeling more alert and happy
However, I am feeling slowed down mentally a bit
20mcg
Everything applied the same way before
Now I feel super awake, alert, and slight mood enhancement
Now this dosage has me feeling something significant. It’s like I’m very alert and energized but my mind is eased like Tac. In some ways I feel euphoria but some things are strangely irritating me
At this point things aren’t only vibrant but now food tastes exceptionally good
Conclusion
2.5-5mcg seemed an appropriate dosage for natural effects, however for more profound I think upwards of 20mcg is necessary
I like the effects of this molecule and the way it smells but it seems hard to understand it appears to have both ends of the spectrum from energy to relaxed to happy to annoyed… will have to test further to understand better
The effects of this P seemed very subtle and easy to miss and neroli has similar effects i’m also finding certain Ps including this one (and Nols) seem to counter THc
So far this molecule has a 5/10 for me, smells great (like cool waters)
Finally got some A1…
Been playing with it for a little while. It’s interesting. Reminds me a lot of erone…
Fun times
Went to hook up with this cute thick older blonde.
Wore several drops pure Hedione to neck and a ENone/cops based mix with it. Well, the woman was highly sexually charged, really wet, and came back to back. What a nice mix.
I’m thinking high amounts of pure Hedione with low doses of ENone are a good mix.
I took total control of the situation yet wasn’t a complete dick. She went along with everything..
A1
A1 is interesting. I certainly see it’s proposed effects at 50mcgs even slightly at 12.5mcg but I get high depression.
I made a ~1.25 mcg/spray A1 mix and plan to try lower dosages to see how they are..
A1
Con 2 showered night before,
Applied 6 drops pure Hedione on neck.
Sprayed 1 spray A1 1.25mcg to Adam’s apple
So far at work I’m not seeming to get any kind of hits in fact if anything it seems like respect hits like people avoid me a bit.
As the next few hours went by there seemed to be a calm aura around me. I felt a little like depression effects. Real nonchalant. People were generally friendly and kind. No sexuality/sensuality at all. I felt focused on my tasks. Less irritable than usual.
C was a little touchy feely. Quite a few Hispanic girls made significant eye contact.
Been feeling quite strong anaphrodisiac effects..
Also kind of a lact of emotions.
Food tastes bland.
Everything seems to be uninteresting.
Feeling full easily and not very thirsty even though hot day.
Conclusion
It seems at even 1.25mcgs A1 produces big results. I didn’t smell anything from it but it lasted at least 8 hours.
The self effects were of the depressive nature. No real desire or satisfaction in anything, yet I was content. Kind of slowed me down also.
On others it seemed it just kept people friendly and kind.
Hedione
So con 1 wore no colognes or mones, showered night before
Applied 6 drops pure Hedione to both wrists and rubbed on neck.
At work things were incredible.
Firstly I had a great amount of focus and motivation, I just got things done. Secondly, I walked around pretty bold like I wore ENone. I felt in charge. I had no issue walking and standing near the ladies.
The ladies were quite responsive. Firstly I expected C to respond the most but interestingly she seemed her normal self for the longest time. Then eventually she grabbed me real close and told me something dramatic (typical behavior for her when I get a hit.. also she doesn’t seem to touch anybody else that way..) when the Hispanic cuties get there they aren’t even the slight bit concerned with moving out of my way, they were super talkative and extra friendly with me. Lots of body language could have kino’d a lot. C and I kino’d with hands towards the latter end of the shift. Although I did encourage it, which I attribute to the Hedione as well. Love the smell of Hedione, was smellling it on myself the whole time just soaking it in.
Fast food at lunch Hispanic 20s cutie is sweet makes good eye contact and a little hand kino with money exchange.
6 hours later I rub neck with fingers and can still smell Hedione.
As the day presses I’m getting big smiles and sweet hellos from middle aged Hispanic and white women. All other women seemed reserved. Nobody seems to have issues looking at me or talking to me. Have not really encountered young Caucasian women though.
I’ve found A1 still very effective at 6.25mcg - And at that dose, it works very subtly with any other pheros you might be using - or even standalone, with your own natural signature.
I also used it to help condition myself to A1 - Wear one spray at that dose, in an accessible spot, then when the downers start to hit, wash well and let your mood recover, then reapply,
A few weeks of this and I could do ok with shorter term use of much higher doses 
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-blood-type-pheromone-connection/16/66
Effects have even been seen with as little as 100 picograms as I mentioned there. Our bodies have nanogram amounts and we are using enhanced diffusion to deliver it so keep trying lower and let me know the lowest dose that has the same effects since you happen to be playing with it now. I had suggested 500 nanograms next, I have tried only down to 1mcg which worked the same as 4. I have been curious if at any amount those like you that are sensitive might no longer get the negative effects which may allow a company like androtics to use it again. It has been tried to combine it with things like Dhea, Dheas etc that lift mood but eventually most everyone still got depression effects after awhile. It also reduces the crush effects on the woman doing that.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/2e31/ac2b3d0331a4e509f1fbde9462f5bb5d33aa.pdf
This and one other study I have mentions that androstadienone exposure makes a person be able to detect it at lower and lower levels, with the scent turning from pleasant to negative. A change in the effects may go along with that to not work as well.
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hedione-increases-one-night-stands-and-sex-behavior-in-women/67685
Hedione does have the sexual turn on effect, but in there I also link studies that it hits the brain like androstadienone so it also has the social and buffering properties.Please let me know if used solo you get any depression effect but I think it doesnt but I dont have A1 depression.
So when using the mix will be dependent on if you have higher natural pheromone levels then you would use more hedione, but someone with lower levels would want more androstenone and less hedione since it buffers. Copulins increase lutenizing hormone which increase testosterone leading to sex drive increase in both sexes. When a women is about to ovulate her lutenizing hormone levels are at the highest when she is most sexual. This may be the same thing that hedione does, triggering GnRh to release LH to increase testosterone… Try it without the copulins as you may get identical results other then the strength of using more from using both at once. Alpha Androstenol seems to have the same ability to increase LH also btw which is why JV Kohl put it in his scent of eros with getting women to approach you as well, and again is a big buffer and no depression effect. Alpha Androstenol interestingly also activated VN1R1 I believe from that study in the hedione thread. Decanal (Aldehyde C-10) may be a actual pheromone in humans that does the same thing as I mentioned it has the same VN1R1 activation and comes off the body.
Hedione part 2
So today was an exact replica of last Hedione test.
And pretty much everything went the same today as well.
As soon as I got to work, ‘I’ was eager to run into me without hesitation playfully and I reciprocated.
Most people were friendly and didn’t mind standing or being real close to me.
On another occasion, C and I were talking about something and she stood quite close, we both sort of had our arms folded so I moved in a little closer causing our arms to be touching. It wasn’t that much of a move because she was already standing quite close. She didn’t move back from the touching and then when she stepped away, her breast rubbed against my arm and she walked away normally. This is probably the 4th time she was touched me in a way her breasts or booty was touching me a lot and she walked away as if nothing had happened.
Same things continued to go on.
At about the 6th hour C found herself to appear to gravitate towards me for no reason but to get close.
And then a 30s blonde skinny sexy chick found herself continually walking passed me seems like she wanted to get close. On other occasions I noticed women generally would walk passed me almost keep walking then stop dead in their tracks, come my way, then stop right near me.
I’m guessing at this point the fact that I’ve been working and sweating for several hours added to the Hedione cloud, making a nice mix for women to want to attract to.
You know, datadragon, your links are what gave me the ideas to test these, especially the low amount of A1. I think I will be mixing up a batch of ~500-600 nanograms by halving the current A1 mix I have, which is ~1.25mcg..
I’ve been using Hedione for a few years and I can certainly agree that it increases chances of ons. It became the missing link in one of my favorite mixes and when I finally reintroduced Hedione it was off the charts crazy hits.
I do notice that when I wear Hedione solo it seems to buffer me quite a bit so I suppose my natural signature isn’t very high or potent. In fact, based on my tests I believe I’m a little ERone heavy, because I can hardly use erone without Oding but I can use nols and none quite comfortably.
I don’t know my blood type, certainly something that’s been on my mind.. to do list.
My next test is to try just ENone + Hedione. I’m quite confident it will be a very potent mix. And I’m just trying to dial in the A1 so I can have that in as well. I’ve tried A1 at 1.25, 12.5, and 50 mcgs. All produced results and all caused me depression but 50mcg seemed the most potent for this one Hispanic 20s female I know. I haven’t tried much A1 with many people, just tested it in public to see how the public reacted to me..
This all brings me back to something similar that happened to me. When I first tried p83 at the recommended dosages around the forum it was always a dud.. I think I tried like 10-50+ mcgs all didn’t do anything. One day I finally tried it lower like 1-5mcgs and saw benefits..
I’m finding some mones just don’t work for me in large amounts.. while others can.