I just wanted to bring this thread to your attention because I get loads of calls, emails and PM messages about certain experimental mixes coming back in stock.
In addition, the wonderful polls. Now, I know some if not most will be disappointed but remember that this is for both sexes and when John was introduced there was mention that there will be loads of changes to Androtics and though they might not seem like this all are very good and you will see the results.
Thanks, Mickaelia! 
Thanks Mick, It is extremely disappointing and frankly at least for me makes me reluctant to spend my money on future mixes that may not be available to me again. Especially if those mixes end up being successful ones. I rather buy something that works that I can depend on and rely on to be there when I need it whether it for my own personal use or something I refer to a friend.
On a research standpoint it makes sense but not on a consumer standpoint especially from a store that prides its self on making the consumer happy.
Tisha
I understand just what you mean and from a business point to me it will make more sense to keep a few of the products that the women love and will always buy like MX135 & MX274.
Unfortunately I don’t call the shots and try to keep a positive mind set that the ones who do know exactly what they are doing and it will work out for the best.
From what I see it will affect the ladies more since we tend to stick more to what we know and few of us and that includes me venture into new things although am looking to change that.
I am trying to see how I can pick up the women’s section and get the ladies posting more and more into the forum and not sure how this new update will affect them.
I put this thread in here to hear their voice specifically.
This is the exact opposite of the intent of an MX though. We are a research company who makes these MXs to test so that we can come out with new product. We can not waste resources making old product, we need the new products for research, which has been made pretty clear from the start. If we don’t get new research then we can’t release any permanent product like the Instant line or A314. So if you want things to be around, then we need to advance our research. We must always move forward.
There is always the skin palette and the P’s, which will always remain the same for your own mixes.
EDIT: This has always been the intent of MXs, they are experimental mixes - no experiment goes on forever.
As a new user of pheromones, I have heard so much about the mystical MX135 and its fantastic results. Will you be coming out with a product similar to it based upon the research derived from it?
Agreed- I haven’t had the pleasure to try mx135, but I would really love to. And I would love to know if it is going to be a consumer product, because honestly, looking at the list of stuff for guys, I feel a little neglected.
I understand that John, really I do but its been 5 years since any new consumer products have come out. What I dont understand is how successful a test product has to be before someone will notice and take note that people want it. MX135 is a extremely well loved product with or without the copulins.
Its one of the highest reported on MX’s that was offered to the women next to MX134/300. I could see if no one reported on it or no one liked the product. Then it makes sense to scrape it.
MX274 is a excellent product as well but it was only released about 1 1/2 years ago so there is not as many reports.
If the purpose is to test so you can make new products but you never make new products then your not moving forward. You sitting still.
Tisha
Those consumer products had years of research before their release, it does take a long time and a lot of results. Too many reports included things we can’t use or don’t include dosages which are important, these things slow research.
Also the economy is bad and our rolling blackouts of certain molecules don’t help either.
Honestly, I am working very hard to make you guys happy and still keep the research growing, its just a very hard scale to balance. Trust me when I say a little patience and you will see some great new things soon.
I know you are and I appreciate your effort. I have been around the pheromone scene a long time even before this store existed and Jasmin and Michael were just forum members of LS. It just gets a little frustrating seeing great mixes disappear. Think of it as the ultimate compliment. If they made crap I wouldnt care if it was gone. 
I do hope for some new exciting mixes. Hopefully these will make the cut and lead to actual products I can send my clients and friends in to purchase.
Tisha
If you would like, feel free to send me an e-mail to jslavalle@androtics.com with some of your favorite MXs from the past and why you like them. (And if you feel extra diligent, a link to your reports on them would be cool too)
I’d be very interested to see.
Thank you for asking John,
A handful of my reports were made by Pming Jasmin or talking directly to her or Steve about the products. Thing is she is so super busy I think a lot of them get overlooked or forgotten. I am sure your very busy as well so I prefer to answer your question right here in the forum.
That being said… Having been the moderator here for so long a lot of my reporting is done right within my responses to the members since it was my job to keep the forum rocking and I took that assignment very seriously. With over 14,000 posts you cant accuse me of lack of talking about anything (snort) 
I feign innocence and blame IO
If you use the search function there is 15 pages of me talking about MX135. I am sure your aware that MX225 and MX335 are the same formula as MX135 with a different scent package. So you need to search those two as well.
Here are just a few
[link not found]
I got picked up ;) (keep in mind the EST used in this report along with the MX135 was sold here at Androtics so at the time it was relevant)
Here are some other members reports. There are just to many to post here.
MX135: "I'm not your girlfriend, dude."
From Jasmin herself
Ha! MX135... the best sex I never had
Yearly polls Small ones but you need to remember the men out number the women here 5 to 1 and they dont use MX135 as much however women tend to spend more then the men.
[link not found] (new poll mx135)
[link not found] (one rocks your world 2007)
[link not found] (rocking your year 2008)
As I mentioned MX274 has not been around as long but its a excellent product.
There are tons more reports.
The only other advanced mix product I really love is MX215 but that is still in stock. Of course there were numerous others I loved but wont ask for because I know you cant replicate them without copulins and you no longer sell those and thats fine.
Now for the second part of your question “why I like them”
MX135 Is a care free sassy party girl mix. It creates a aura of sexy intriguing fun. It grabs attention. Makes people want to know you and be in your circle. It centers attention on you. Gets you noticed and it attracts both males and females. I affectionately call it “That girl”.
Here this may help you get the MX135 feel
Its a very effective mix.
Both these mixes are very versatile and work in any environment. They work well at moderate dosages ranging from 2 to 4 sprays.
As I mentioned there have been other mixes I have loved here at Androtics and wish where still available. MX109 MX140, MX138 the Alpha women’s test pack but I understand these being scraped because they were not reported on much and you didnt get the feedback.
But scraping MX274 and MX135 is a mistake in my opinion. The research. testing and reporting is there for these two and I am sure you have even more feedback behind the scenes because not every user frequents the forums. I will admit not every report is glowing that I have read in the forum but this is where knowing you members comes in handy.
For the few people who have had not so great results with these there are underlying issues like ADD or testosterone issues. Up until last year when I stepped down as Mod because my hubby got laid off and I had to go back to coaching for money as well as work a full time job (no it was not because of copulins like some people assume) I got to know almost every new member who joined. Their age, personality, likes dislikes, needs, problems and it really helped get a clear picture of why some products fit them and why some dont.
Anywhooo Thank you for at least hearing me out. By now you probably know I am pretty outspoken and upfront so I will say this… I know Androtics has gotta do what its gotta do. Steve and Mick have been great and always attentive and understanding when it comes to this subject, However they are limited in what they can do to help by upper management. I know over the last year upper management has been limited by the ecomomy as well. However, Androtics has never really been attentive to the women’s wants or needs here. Products are scarce as it is on the woman’s side and its something we have continually pointed out and requested to be fixed. For the last 5 years women have been asking and promises have been made that just never seem to happen. The women just got tired of asking and moved on to where they would listen so you need to understand this is why when you have asked in the past what we want, most of us just blow it off as just another person here to blow smoke up our butts. Its sad to see the few products we were able to hold onto disappear now.
I know thats not fair to you and all you asking for is a chance and again I really do appreciate your effort. Hopefully those exciting changes you have mentioned will come to pass quickly and you will find the balance your looking for.
Tisha
tisha23
Thank you for asking John,
A handful of my reports were made by Pming Jasmin or talking directly to her or Steve about the products. Thing is she is so super busy I think a lot of them get overlooked or forgotten. I am sure your very busy as well so I prefer to answer your question right here in the forum.
That being said… Having been the moderator here for so long a lot of my reporting is done right within my responses to the members since it was my job to keep the forum rocking and I took that assignment very seriously. With over 14,000 posts you cant accuse me of lack of talking about anything (snort)
If you use the search function there is 15 pages of me talking about MX135. I am sure your aware that MX225 and MX335 are the same formula as MX135 with a different scent package. So you need to search those two as well.
Here are just a few
[link not found]
I got picked up ;) (keep in mind the EST used in this report along with the MX135 was sold here at Androtics so at the time it was relevant)
Here are some other members reports. There are just to many to post here.
From Jasmin herself
Yearly polls Small ones but you need to remember the men out number the women here 5 to 1 and they dont use MX135 as much however women tend to spend more then the men.
[link not found] (new poll mx135)
[link not found] (one rocks your world 2007)
[link not found] (rocking your year 2008)
As I mentioned MX274 has not been around as long but its a excellent product.
There are tons more reports.
The only other advanced mix product I really love is MX215 but that is still in stock. Of course there were numerous others I loved but wont ask for because I know you cant replicate them without copulins and you no longer sell those and thats fine.
Now for the second part of your question “why I like them”
MX135 Is a care free sassy party girl mix. It creates a aura of sexy intriguing fun. It grabs attention. Makes people want to know you and be in your circle. It centers attention on you. Gets you noticed and it attracts both males and females. I affectionately call it “That girl”.
Here this may help you get the MX135 feel
Jasmin is insanely busy, with the obvious - its been touched on - so I am taking over a lot of her duties and taking a far more active role as manager of the operation. With that being said you can always feel free to e-mail me (anybody can) as long as its not a simple support issue since Mick is an ace at handling those types of needs and it takes me twice as long to do anything she does. But for other stuff I am your man!
Thanks again for the post, I’m looking into it right now.
John
Tisha- I know I am not alone in appreciating your well thought out and eloquent post.
And John, Thanks for listening.
I’m sorry, what?
– Just kidding. NP!
Hey tisha,
I am very new here, but this is what i also felt . the balance between men & women products is just not right. when i reserched enough to find products for myself, i am left with little choice. i wanted to test mx 135, 134, 138,274, tal,tah, lam etc. but to my disappointment they r not available. i saw the dates of the reports on them were way back 2007 to 2009. will we ever get those wonderful mixes? or cuz we came late we can not be the lucky ones to enjoy those benefits. in fact i was reading the juicy combos & recipies. i marked a lot for my self to try & then create my own , but to my dissappintment, i ended dropping all those cuz those products are not availble. i dont know, what to try when certain situations come in, which i am anticipating, wherin mones can give difinite help.
i also second your opinion Tisha that i want to have the product with me, when i have the situation to use it. i want to rely on these products for the situations they can create in our lives. otherwise, all the testing, reporting, money & energy we put in there goes in vain
I just love the way team is helping us for anything or everything, specially mick & steve. but yes product line definitly needs a relook at it.
I am sorry if i am speaking too much being a new member. but i shared what i felt.
Anna, I don’t know if you saw this wonderful thread, in the womens journals section, but there are quite a few recipes that we can make ourselves, of course we do have to get the ingredients, hopefully some are still available.
i saw kits. but some mones reports really sounds attractive, which are not available. am i wrong in saying anything???
i dunno but i thought twice before writing. still i felt like talking my heart so i did. 
. i really want to try LAM but now what ??? meo est is very expensive for me.
Oh well, it was just a thought, I didn’t check in the store to see what was available.
Lol, of course you can. One thing you have to remember is that we always want to hear your feedback good or bad and your feelings are important to us.
Just like when management make decisions some you may not understand at the time or see we would like you to take into consideration that we are doing this for the best and for the future of this company.
It’s a give and take. The very reason for this forum is to hear your voice and to know what you want and to hear what you have to say. Just like a loving parent looking for the best interest in their child they will not give in to all the child’s wants or can but does that mean that parent does not want to hear what the child has to say or does not take it into consideration.
I hope that you don’t just take these words as someone who works here but as someone you can trust.
