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Hello gang!

So after a couple years in the wilderness I’ve reappeared here, and after getting a lump of cash recently figured it was about time I went the distance and did some serious mone investing. Previously, I had a buttload of otg (IS, IH, IO, IJ, TUTH (1.0 and 1.1), IG, Ammo), then got myself a proper bottle of Ammo. So where to this time? Well, I just couldn’t pass up the chance to get all three scents of Ammo, and buying today got myself TUTH, IS, and IG otgs for free (thank you John!). A bottle of TUTH was on my list regardless, but an otg too for when I’m at a lady’s rather than home can only be useful. But the other purchase, the biggy, was to finally jump in and get myself some A314. Exciting times await!

In the interim whilst I await the dispatch and arrival, though, anyone got any pro tips on mixing these bad boys up? I’m planning to use A314 pretty much by the book to start with - a drop on each wrist, rubbing behind the ears, once per day - and a spray of Ammo to the chest if I’m meeting a girl (shall be trying each in turn, probably starting with summer).

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The notes this time: “Hey Euan! You rock!” and “Hey Euan! You still rock!”. Brought me a little smile anyways :slight_smile:

And the extras this time - World Edition pumped up to X2 and some P102. Which means now I get to go “hmmmm”, since I’ve never tried any putatives before, or had double strength ammo. Thinking I’m going to give the Summer ammo a go today, since it’s pretty nice out. Rock on, y’all.

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I think you will enjoy P102. Its taken me a long time to get a handle on it but I’m now finding it gives a certain positive dynamism to any mix you use it with. :slight_smile:

And take a bit more time with the A314 - Give it the extended sweet spotting suggested here as after the Androstenone products, it is the one that you need to establish a full dose range for the different situations/combos you use it in. :slight_smile:

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The plan for starting with A314 is going to be using it neat - one drop on each wrist, rub them together, then a swipe behind the ears. After a decent trial of that, I’ll add a third drop, but I’m not sure where would be wise to go for that. Alternatively, would a single drop be worth a trial?

I’ve not heard much about P102 - searching the forums is giving me some bits about increased emotional response from others, and a self effect of slightly increased alertness in some cases and zoning out in others (sometimes almost both simultaneously).

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Yes, using it standalone at work is best and at 21, one drop may well be suitable for your age and the level of status you need to project - too much can worry your bosses/colleagues or give a “we can’t teach this guy anything” vibe but when you come to use it with other pheros, some do better with less than your normal sweet spot, whilst others thrive on quite a lot more. Its a long learning/matching process with A314 and the more work you put in to finding the dose ranges that work for you the better.

Don’t just go by reports with P102, try it singly and in combo with mixes you already know. That gives the best idea.

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I’m actually quite glad it was P102, since there’s not much on the ground about its effects, unlike some of the other putatives, so I’ll be figuring it out entirely solo. I’m meeting up with a bunch of folk later this evening, so whilst what you’re saying about 1 drop of a314 being enough may well be accurate, for simplicity in testing and applying I’ll start with 2 and follow the “how to” on the product page. If it seems people are more intimidated and worried than trusting and respecting I’ll definitely switch it down to one, but to apply is likely easier with the tad bit more oil in two drops.

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Initial self effects from the A314 - there’s almost a feel of something pulling slightly on my back and neck to make me stand straighter, which given I often slouch a little is a good start. The scent is slightly dry, and the “James Bond” suit description seems pretty accurate.

Dosage was a drop on the forefinger, rubbed against t’other forefinger, then applied behind the ear and stretched down towards the neck, then another drop on the wrist, rubbed against the other wrist, and excess stretched down towards the elbow. I may need some practise still with the bottle, since getting a drop was easy but a little extra splashed out in righting the bottle - I’m probably on slightly more than a two drop dose. We’ll see how this evening goes.

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I’m liking A314. It’s subtle, it’s not “jump up and down and clap your hands with glee” territory, because any self effect from the stuff is enough to make me too damn cool for that. We’re talking true alpha male here. Not “brah! brah! look at my muscles!” alpha, not “wins the fight” alpha, but the alpha of unquestionable, utterly respected, authoritative gravitas. In a busy street, people moved out my way. They hesitated to make eye contact. Went to a tailors (I had a pair of jeans needing repaired) and the guy there was doing everything he could to be helpful.

I stopped by a venue I go to regularly (the downstairs bar is generally open), and where I know the manager reasonably well - mention I’m going to a meeting for the final stage of organising an annual event. He asks if we’ve ever thought of having it in the venue, and offered (almost insisted) to show me around the entire place. I was also nipping into one of the secure areas, and he just opened the door without even taking a card - breach of protocol, but it’s the “I just trust this guy here, there’s no way he’d take advantage” aura. Now, granted, I know the guy, and he reasonably trusts me anyway, but on reflection that was a step beyond - on both counts. The entire way round he was trying to sell me on every room in the place as having a good use for the event.

Then at the meeting - the guy who was chairing is a confident guy, outspoken, knows his way around people (you can tell he’s read “How to Win Friends and Influence People”). Great guy. And yet, all meeting long, all body language and talking is to my tune. When I went to speak, people shut up. When I invited someone’s input, it was given and people listened to it. The couple of times I stepped away it reverted to the norm, then as soon as I sat down again the agenda jumped straight back to “what Euan says”. And I was running that meeting - cooly, calmly, confidently, without "uh"s and "um"s, with smooth, strong decisions.

A314 is good. I’m meeting some friends tomorrow socially, so we’ll see how things are different in that context.

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Well, time for today’s adventure! (This should probably become a journal, shouldn’t it?)

In around half an hour, I’m meeting a friend for coffee. Specifically, I’m meeting my first ex - a girl who my relationship with was… a bit of a rollercoaster. I’ll not go into details, but we’ll see how this goes. Her current boyfriend is, apparently, starting to really annoy her in some ways, so I suspect she might be looking for someone to vent to. Certainly I’m not planning to play homewrecker, but after we met up at a pub with a bunch of other friends a couple weeks back we’ve talked far more than in the past year or so combined.

The mones today are two drops of A314, applied as per yesterday and with more precision in dosing (second time’s far easier, just the two drops now); then two sprays of Ammo SE (1 chest, 1 front of neck), and, just to try it, a spray of P102 to the chest. I’ll let you know how it all goes.

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Exciting times indeed. Met up with the girl like I said, we spend the next three hours having coffee, lunch, and long discussions about all manner of things. She also vented about issues she’s been having with her current boyfriend - but only after hinting and me inviting her to go on. Going by her body language, and the general way things went, I’d say the Ammo SE certainly did its job, and the P102 may have had some play in there - making her more ready to air her dirty laundry. The fact that, body language wise, I was confident but open to her probably diminished some of A314’s effects. Certainly she trusted me utterly, but there wasn’t the “I’m so grateful to be getting your attention” and I think that was because I was giving it in a way that implied “I’m enjoying what you’re doing with this attention”.

As for the staff angle, A314 continues to impress me. In fact, I’ll rewind a little - we go into the coffee shop, guy greets us as we come in the door, brings menus over, heads off after giving a smile and such. We look at menus a while, I’m organised first, the minute my menu hit the table he was walking over to ask if I was ready to order. I glance sideways, see a shake of the head, say “a couple more minutes”. “Of course sir.” Soon as she’s ready, I turn my head towards the counter and he came straight over, despite this being lunchtime. Order arrives promptly, a while through we want more drinks, and again as soon as I looked round he came straight over with a “yes sir?”. Sir, all over the place. After we’re done chatting for hours, I barely start moving my head (granted, he was heading in our vague direction already) and I’m hearing “yes sir?”. Bill is brought to me, placed for my attention, and the girl doesn’t even attempt to look at it. Not in the “why should I?” way, in the “he has claimed it” way.

Skipping ahead timewise to later in the afternoon, I stopped by an outdoors shop to get a pair of laces for walking shoes and a couple of things for a present for a friend. Store manager greets me as I’m entering, takes me to where everything I want is, gives me lots of description and recommendations as to which without me even asking. Later, I needed to pick up a bunch of wine for some committee thank yous at an event this weekend I’m part of the organising team of (there will be much testing of A314 there, though quite how I’ll find time to write everything down - between attendees, industry-name guests, and venue management - I don’t know). Stop by Oddbins, once again the manager greets me and proceeds to spend an hour taking me around the entire store recommending bottles in the right approximate price range, going into a wealth of detail, virtually ignoring other customers except for the couple of times I notice them near the counter (no sales assistants on duty at the time) and suggest he should tend to them. It’s a level of service that you’re normally surprised to get, and I’m getting it twice in two shops. Sure, could be coincidence, but I doubt it.

Sadly, however, by the time I was meeting people this evening it had probably worn off - as I recall, the sprays tend to last around four hours, and the oils eight? Certainly, there wasn’t anything particular I’d note as a hit. I’ll be seeing at least one of them at the weekend event, so we’ll see what we get then.

I’m at a Google Developers Group meetup on Thursday, so will definitely be wearing some A314 then. Tomorrow, well, perhaps I’ll manage to meet up with another group of friends and look for effects there.

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Dude, you’re in Edinburgh, and you’re spraying SE and 102 to your chest?

Unless you’re stripped to the waist, that means you will have at least a shirt over the top, if not a T-shirt as well? TBH I think the SE will struggle to diffuse much from that application.

Maybe try spraying the SE to one side of your exposed neck (make sure you don’t spray over your A314 application points), and the P102 to the other side of your exposed neck.

Just a suggestion! Keep up the reporting, I’m enjoying it! :smiley:

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Just one layer, unless I’m wearing a jumper :slight_smile: I’ve found from the last time I was using ammo regularly that a spray to the chest has some effect, but one to the chest and one to the front of the neck gives an effect most of the time, and a little touch of dihl when the girl gets a hug (which seems to work pretty well).

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I agree, if the weather in Edinburgh is anything like the prolonged cold on the East Coast further North, you are going to have your diffusion cut right back unless you mean by the chest at the base of the neck on an open shirt?

Either way, Summer Ammo is balanced enough to use on open skin in most if not all situations, even at you age. :slight_smile:

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Outside’s a bit chilly today, but certainly my flat is always nice n’ warm, and it’s actually been sunny the past couple days (I know, scary!). I’m meaning dead center of the chest, on the nipple line, then front of neck is just below the adam’s apple.

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Well, A314-wise things’ve been less effective, but that’s a problem others have had with this batch - unless you manage to get your application points just so (which I managed only really once), it’s a bit on the poor side. Partial delayed effect from it on aforementioned girl though - there was some asking advice at the end, and the best I could offer given their circumstances was to just break up. A couple weeks later, well…

Ammo SE’s been decent, not noticed too many hits with it, but then I’ve not always been as attentive as I could be. Gotten good results from P102 though: it’s like somewhere between IO and IH, people are far more open and willing to tell me things. Even just a spray to each side of the next has done some excellent things along those lines.

But now, I find myself sorely tempted to try a few other things. I know, I know, I’m terrible. I’ve heard interesting things about P75, P83, and MX297. The A314 spray also seems to have avoided the issues the oil’s had in this batch, so tempted by that too. Thoughts, suggestions, opinions? Particularly in the case of the putatives, what would be good strengths to go for?

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Anyone? Any advice?

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P75 at 2.5mcg is one to start with - Only a few people seem to manage to carry-off higher doses without wallet-buggering social moderation. Personally I keep it in 2.5 and 7.5mcg concentrations and use the 2.5 most as I usually only need two sprays if there is any none involved. The 7.5 gets main use with no-none mixes.

P83 - 10mcg is a good starting concentration as it will let you cover a wide dose range depending on what you use it with. Socials - Less, Overt sexuals - More.

A314 - Take your pick. Work mixes, go for the /b or the oil when they sort it, club/impact mixes, its the /a all the way! :slight_smile:

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I wonder if I’m the product if alien technology. I was out at the American cuisine bistro known as McDonald’s having coffee the other day, wearing 7.5 TAC and P75 with 2.5 -eNone. I think I could have easily doubled this with few issues. No wallets buggered. :smiley: I think I’m going up to 7.5 -eNone soon. I think the mix needs P83 pull. How to do it…

I like that, BTW. Wallet buggering. I’ll be using that one more often.

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Stellar advice as ever. Cheers mobo!

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Shiny things, all the shiny things in the post! P75 2.5mcg, P83 10mcg (sadly, this seems to have leaked a little in transit - bottle is wet, slight alcohol scent, moisture’s present inside the cap too, and the level is about the same as that of the Summer Ammo I’ve been using for a little while. P75 was damp too, but that seems to be just from the other bottle in the same bubblewrap), MX297, A314 spray A, and yet another otg of P102 as a freebie.

Today, I’m meeting a friend to watch a film (she hasn’t seen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), then a few others to go see Iron Man 3. The difficult choice - to test out A314 spray, or MX297? Gonna be one of those two, the idea of a sledgehammer-grade mone impact is too exciting to pass up.