I Found 1oz (30mL) at 1.2mg per Drop for $37.50 Shipped… Diluting may be Needed as It IS Listed as 1200mcg per Drop… 40 Sprays in a ToGo, so One Drop Diluted Would Yield 30mcg per Spray or Close?!? And 6mcg for One Drop Diluted in a 1oz (30mL) Bottle… That Would Certainly Make Mixing a Breeze…
It’s Late and I’m Tired So the Math could be Wrong…
Recommendation considered and rejected. I will allow myself affection for a woman who provides better than servicable sex and for whom I develop respect outside of bed. Far better to control your own emotions and also be in control of the woman’s emotions. That’s what women want and expect too.
I’ve used pregnenolone orally as a smart “drug”, supplement really. It can clear some mental cobwebs but it’s ultimate conversion makes it problematic for older guys due to prostate enlargement.
Give 7-keto DHEA a googling. It’s looking very promising.
Nice find! A single drop in a togo will yield 30mcg/spray. What I would do is put 25 drops in 29.5mL of ethanol for a 1mg/mL concentrate. Very easy to work with then, since 2 drops in a togo = 1.25mcg/spray.
So, any other thoughts on the “crust (CRUSH) effect?”
Still seems a bit misunderstood or at least vaguely defined.
It Varies from Person to Person and Also By Age I Would Think… I’ve Noticed Effects like Women Feeling a Need to Be Near You, Deer in the Headlights, Becoming Cuddly such as Hanging on and Hugging… I had One Women that I had Just Met 10 Minutes Prior Defend Me when My Friends Talked some Shit About Me in Fun… She Went on About what a Great guy I was and They Should be Proud to be Around Such a True Man…
I’d Liken it to a Women Finding a Cute Little Kitten… They Want to Hold it, Take Care of It, and Protect it…
Note: the Effects I’m Describing here are from an Age range of 19-26… I’m 39…
heehee. ‘crust’ effect.
So, ignoring my misspelling, the similarities with the crush effect and the kitty cat or baby face reaction seems to have merit.
A DIHL is very different since it is a momentary consciousness blackout. A crush victim remains conscious but judgment is overwhelmed by positive emotional desire - be it to mother a kitten or a baby or to hug a man. For a man-object, it includes a desire for approval and acceptance FROM the man.
Hi Whitehall,
Thanks for the PM, interesting topic thank you for asking for my opinion. I do think people probably all have a slightly different understanding of the crush effect dictated by their emotions and life experiences. There really is no right or wrong answer to it because its an emotion.
In our generation a crush refers to feelings of attraction, arousal and adoration felt for someone inappropriate or unavailable to you. Thats why its “crushing” because you have feelings for someone who can not reciprocate those feelings. For instance teacher/student, Doctor/patient, adult /child, married person/single person or even in a school type situation. Gorgeous popular guy/nerdy unnoticed girl. It sort of refers to someone who is … and I hate to say this because I dont believe in them…league. People experiencing the crush tend to fantasize about these people more elevating them even higher in there eyes then they truly are. They never really pursue them though.
Adults do experience crushes we just handle them and view them differently then kids and younger adults. They dont consume us because we understand them. That attraction and arousal felt for a married coworker you would never make a move on for instance. Even fantasy ones like my crush on Johnny Depp. I will never meet him and if I did he probably wouldn’t even notice me nor would I pursue him. I also have a forum crush on Gegogi. (he knows) LOL
I have noticed from listening to younger adults like my sons they use the term crush a little different. They can refer to their SO as their crush or someone they are pursuing as their crush. Its become more of a slang term for them.
DIHL is not a feeling as much as its a reaction to a feeling. Your sort of bombarded with so many different emotion it takes a few minutes to sort them out so you freeze up.
As far as P83 causing a crush effect. Its not really seen on the women end of wearing it. I haven’t noticed it on the men I have tested who have worn it. The men reporting this can be interpreting the reaction this way though. It does cause people to lose there inhibitions and express there sensuality more. It does cause changes in body language. It can help people express attraction. A person seeing these reactions in response to their use of P83 could describe it as a crush in the sense younger people use the word. I dont think the P83 causes the crush it just lets those exposed express that crush more prominently.
Tisha
I would agree with what Tisha said about P83 and the crush effect. I never heard of P83 having this effect only until recently and it seems now that this “rumor” for lack of a better word is taking on a life of its own…one person mentioned it somewhere and now its becoming the way p83 is being described when in the past it was only mentioned as a disinhibitor…which is what I’ve personally experienced and i did extensive testing with it.
I too think p83 just causes people to express hidden feelings / emotions more blatantly…from tame to downright nasty…LOL
I think guys using this around women are just interpreting that as the crush effect. I don’t think p83 causes a woman to have lingering thoughts about a man she’s interested in..I think it just causes her to express them either verbally or physically when she may not do so otherwise..or at least be more secretive about it.
Now A314 with some IH and IS I’ve seen the crush effect. I’ve also seen it with A1.
My current target…a cute lil’ native american girl I’ve been spending most of my time with tells me she lies awake at night thinking of things I’ve said…or spent the day coming up with a cute nickname for me, or thinking about what she can make me for breakfast lunch and dinner…yes all 3 in one day…LOL.
I am on her mind when I am not around and I rarely if ever wear P83 around her. its 9 times out of 10 my A314, IH, IS ammo mix.
Just curious what is your dosage for that mix?
Thanks Level
A314 2-3 drops
Ammo regular strength 2-4 sprays, mostly 2
IH 2-4 sprays, conservative 2, but for max effect 4.
IS 4 sprays
Unless someone can offer a better hypothesis about the “crush effect” I willing to opine that it doesn’t exist, at least for females.
Use of P83 only stimulates obessive-compulsive behavior. When a guy gets a set on an attractive female and is exposed to P83, the OCD can kick in and feel like a “crush.” That might happen with females too but since they are less aggressive in general, it less of an affect.
So P83 can help drive goal-seeking behavior, which is consistent with my initial report on its affects.
I might add a touch to my mixes, especially for the female, but I’ll avoid it’s straight use.
You’ve seen a few different interpretations already. I’m not sure what else you’re looking for. It sounds like you want someone to offer a description of the “crush” feeling that jives with your personal experience, which is not going to happen because, as you have said so emphatically, you don’t have any experiences that you would use that word to describe. But it’s clear that crushes are a real emotional experience, as everyone but you seems to have had them.
It sounds like everyone is in agreement that p83 does not induce crush feelings.
Sorry, dbot, it seems like the concept of “crush effect” is too vague and ill-defined to be a real phenomena. Other things are going on but as a separately defined effect, I ain’t seeing it.
Likewise, P83 doesn’t seem to have a “crush effect” beyond it’s OCD affects.
Might Look Up “Limerence” in Google or Wikipedia… That is the More Scientific Word for a “Crush”… In It’s Definition You Will Find Everything that has Been Mentioned Here and More… Oh There is So Much More to Be Read…
Basically, It’s Considered the 1st Stage of a Loving Relationship… However a Relationship that Stays in This Stage is Unhealthy… However Since P83 can Help to Create this Feeling it is Very Helpful in Starting New Relationships… Once the Relationship is Moving Along the Use of P83 Maybe Counter Productive…
There are ALOT of Studies Being Done (or have been Done) in the Past Few Years…
A Person Feeling THIS will Seek Your Gratitude… This Maybe Through Any Number of Methods (Whatever they Find that Makes You Happy)… Some Shyness from them May come into Play Due to a Slight Fear of Rejection…
Note: It’s NOT Just One Thing… It’s ALOT of Things Working Together…
I, too, am answering Whitehall’s PM. 
If I had to define “The Crush Effect” it would be… a longing/desire for someone you worship from afar who is unattainable for whatever reason, fill in the blank.
On the subject of crushes, in general… yes, in the past when I was a youngster, I experienced crushes but I don’t have them now. In my case, at this point in my life, I don’t find that many people worth crushing on, lol. Plus, having matured and having learned from past experience, I no longer do the unrequited love thing or even the unrequited like thing for that matter. I’m not up for nor interested in crushing on anyone. There’s no pay off. I have, instead, developed “The Permanent Crush”. His name is Wolf and I married him. 
That said, at present, I do admire certain gentlemen but I don’t have crushes on them per say. There’s no longing/sexual fantasies/desire for them. I’m attracted to them and simply admire them for who they are.
I haven’t found P83 to have any kind of crushing effect, on me nor my targets. P83 doesn’t have that effect on me, at all. Rather, at higher doses, upwards of 20mcg, P83 gives me a feeling of disconnection/sedation. I’ve reported on this a number of times. It’s hard to explain. I’m present but removed at the same time. It makes me feel kinda foggy and I’ve found it drags me under during intimate encounters, more than I’m comfortable with. So, when I do use it I stick to low doses or it puts me in a place I’d rather not be.
I understand the disinhibiting properties of P83. It does have the ability to loosen up people, especially those who actually need it and that can be steered in a sexual direction under the right circumstances. However, I find it less effective on people like me who are already disinhibited.
If I were a man for a crush effect I might try…A314, P74, P83, P86 and IH and/or IShine.
IDK if that helps you any, Whitehall, but that’s my nickle for the pot.
Bella
Obsessive compulsive behavior. How so ??
I dont see a crush as OCD. Thinking about someone a lot in an adoring or affectionate manner is not compulsive behavior unless your behavior becomes over the top or unreasonable because of it. I really haven’t seen that with P83 myself. Not saying it cant happen to some but its one molecule I have and use in abundance and have had many test and so far no OCD or crushing.
High doses as Bella mentioned can cause a sedated effect or I like to describe it more as satiated.
In the correct dosage range which will be different for everyone there is a sensuality, sensual confidence and expression, manifesting itself in a change in body language and an increase in physical contact. You see it in how people move present, themselves and interact with you. Again I dont think it creates a feeling that doesnt exist. It brings it to the surface and brings with a feeling of freedom of expression.
Besides TAA, P83 is my all time favorite putative. Its excellent in attraction mixes or sexual mixes. Fun at parties and events. The only place I wouldnt use it myself is in a work type environment.
Tisha
Tisha,
Why not use P83 is a work environment ?
Arent crushes something that happen when you’re in highschool?
When I was in highschool I had a crush on this chick, she was very beautiful
Now many years on I talk to her on facebook and she owns a modelling agency
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15.Informal. a.an intense but usually short-lived infatuation.
b.the object of such an infatuation: Who is your latest crush?
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Butterflys in the stomach, beating of the heart, feelings of desire, these are all things that could be used to describe the crush effect, even being blinded to the poor qualities of the person and seeing only their good qualities, sometimes inflated