Putative Pheromone P83
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Available in all dosages between 625 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray.
Ideal Dosages:
10-50 mcg will be more lively and effective
Observed P83 Effects:
chatty, sexy, touchy, sensual, steering, giggly, fun, aloofness, more touching, sexy talk, interested, touchy-feely, NSFW, spontaneity
Interesting Combos
MX147 Instant Openness test mix(not in production)- x 3 + MX105 A314 Test mix(not in production) - x 1; TUTH - x 2; P79 - 25mcg; P83 - 25mcg; TAL - 5mcg; TAA oil - 40Mcg = really masculine and sexual
1 drop A314 + 25mcg P83 + 2 sprays MX101(not in production) + 25mcg P74 =Mellow mix to wear around the neighbourhood.
P83 (total : 25mcg) + 1 spray ammo =crazy attraction
100mcg EST(not in production) + 25mcg Methoxyestratetraenone(not in produvtion) + 5mcg P83 + 50mcg P93 + 2 sprays IShine 2X + 1 x TAC after dry-down = They wont let you go.
2x IH or IO + 1 or 2 x P83 7.5mcg = Pleasant Surprise
Ammo + p83 +Openness = Mom Tamer
A314 + BNol + P83 = Social Alpha
2 sprays IHonesty + 1 Spray p83 = Rough sex
275mcg of P83, 2 sprays TUTH, and 4 drops A314 = too strong for 4 girls to handle.
Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread!
Real User Feedback:
P83 has the feel of the P74 , and a cousin to P86 , friendly approachable, endorphin gentleness to it… sort of belly rub nature…
Where P74 is the most social, P86 seems to be more personal skin/tactile and P83 may fall in between… the mind runs smoothly and efficiently on P83, and I make fewer typo mistakes, even when writing long things… so it isn’t like a ga-ga experience… tacitus
caught me off guard… I was basically feeling good… uply (is that a word ?) social… decent humorous get along doggies mentality… thennnn… I began to notice a buzz in my primordial chakra… unusual , I was becoming hornified and pheromones don’t typically do that to me… those whom I encounter, yes, me, I mean, not romanticized nor revved nor whatever it is… just plain thinking and feeling a whole lotta sex mojo… outa the blu … so that evening I have a double strenght orgasm… one of those knock the wind right out of ya 220v throw away your crutches and holler Praise Jesus! orgasms… yezoiks! Was that the P83 tawkin ? Where did that come from ? Could it have been some other factor ? The pomegranate juice ? Naaahh… That was goooood, boy… now I don’t know if that was a one offer, or if it is a scientifically reproducible event… sure got my attention tho…tacitus
Second day on using p83 here. The feeling that I get from this one and the vibe that I get from other people can be summed up by part of the lyrics from a song:
What you want. Swinger MD
P83 feels none-like to me; at least it makes me/us more dominant, edgy, impatient, uninhibited. I didn’t feel sexually aroused by wearing it alone (though I have before when wearing it with cops). W didn’t seem to be aroused by it either, though his morning-after erection was even more impressive than usual - no time to play, unfortunately! Carrie
…I’m trying to learn how to use P83. I seem to OD with P83 at anything above 25mcg, and it causes me to feel pretty aggitated …it fades within about an hour, so I’m thinking it’s a pretty fast diffusing pheromone. There’s defiantely an aggressiveness to P83… sigma
I applied 5mcg to my wrists and rubbed some on my face. For a few seconds I had a buzz. The buzz wasn’t a typical buzz. It was like taking that last shot that puts you over the edge…
After 5 minutes the personal effects started kicking in. My posture straightened, and I continued getting ready for class. It had an effect on my thought processes as I began thinking about analyzing pheromone effects. I was then very detail oriented and tried to plan a couple moves ahead. During the 1 hour drive to campus I had the radio on and was deep in though about general life issues (things to accomplish, people to talk to, situations to take care of).
…It seems that if given information that stimulates imagination p83 works very well, but can be a distractant from dull information.
toilofday
I needed to go to sleep early, and I have general problems falling asleep to begin with. I decided to test out p83 due to the creative side i’ve experienced. I put my finger over the mouth of the bottle and turned it over and applied 1 dab to my neck and chin. I could instant feel a buzz from it. At such a low dose (I have 5mcg spray) I was suprised even though Jasmin had touched on the possible use of minute quantities. I began to feel a touch more agressive. p83 seems to realy bring that out in me. I fell asleep a little quicker. ..
toilofday
P83, IN moderation,** “buried deep in the mix”… can put a focused, attentive, totally in the moment quality…** so it might be great for performers too,
tacitus
My P83 experience is somewhat dose dependent.
I would describe it as a “vibe sensitivity” substance. In small amounts, it makes me sensitive to the energy present, and in high doses “sucks you in” to the energy. If things are social, it tracks the social energy. Likewise, it seems to have a similar response to anti-social and sexual energies. Very cool and empathetic in a way.
I’m wondering if the P83 is playing off your natural energies.
TaoistBiker
I own P83 and can understand how it could be considered erotic. Tested it for the first time this morning. Pleased to report a warm, happy, physical sensation that --with the right guy-- could have easily been sexual. The warm buzz lasted for the morning, fading away approx 3-4 hours later. P83 also smells reallllly good.Kitten
P83 in large doses (75 mcg ) makes me combative , then comfortable, then grumpy.
It’s sexual without being threatening, it’s more sexual/comfortable than sexual/ aggressive in smaller doses.
I have been wearing 25 mcg today (opposed to 75 mcg ) and that is totally different. If I were to smell this on a man, it would be the vibe I would associate not with a man I wanted to have a quick fling with - it’s more than that, but the vibe of a man I know would not only show me a wonderful time in the bedroom, but the kind of man who would ALSO (not instead of) stick around.
Ideal for most women - an unapologetically masculine pheromone that speaks of a man who is not only sexual, but reliable and “grown-up”. It’s sexy and “grown-up” but it is definitely sexy first!
…if you are going to have someone snuggling into your neck, then some P83 might just seal the deal as it is comfortable and sexual at the same time.
May
Lor
P83: Yummy. Male and kind of dizzying. Like two glasses of champagne served by Brad Pitt. When I’ve worn it, I’ve gone around with a huge grin–that “I just got some, and it was amazing” or “I’m about to go on a hottt date” kind of relaxed grin that keeps showing up out of nowhere. Men grinned back the same way, and women perked up around me. I’ve never worn more than two sprays because, as I said, it is clearly male and sexy and strong even with one 12.5 mcg spray. I also ration it because I like the self-effects so much that I don’t want to lose them by wearing it too often.
Kitten
Wearing p83 again…
…I do like the feeling of P83 in doses around about the 25mcg mark.
It’s sexy in a “grown-up” kind of way - quietly but securely alpha-male. Relaxing and edible at the same time.** I wouldn’t say this is a phero I would wear its alpha - but, to me, it is male. Confidently and quietly alpha male and “grown-up”, even “mature” successful alpha male at that.
May
P83 is some kind of crave activator, the difference between Tater wants a biscuit and Tater wants all the biscuits and he wants them NOW! I assure you that never happens in real life. These seem to be very sensual, not sexual, but with a little work…
1 spray of 12.5 mcg of P83 works the best for me. Even smaller doses of P83 would probably have a noticeable effect. To me, P83 is a little like " androstenone /androsterone-lite."
3 sprays was really pushing it. I did not get snippy using the higher dose, just adamant about certain things. If anyone had been outrageously rude to me, I might very well have gotten verbally aggressive. So I guess all concerned were just lucky.
P83 definitely brings me to life but it is always accompanied with my libido cutting loose. I have been using 2.5 mcg per spray and using between 1-5 sprays. The vibe is nothing short of sex crazed I hit on all girls I come in contact with. I have worn it by itself ,with Ammo , and with IShine . Androstenone makes me pissed not really turned on.
Got my 15mcgs per spray P83 , and so far I can say that it is one potent phero.
I got a buzz from two sprays of P83 when it was first applied. It’s strange because I usually don’t get a buzz or self-effect from the other pheros. At work there weren’t much chance to test it on, but I noticed that my senses were more acute. For instance, during the first three hours I was hearing this ringing sound in my ear (you know the type when you hear a music really loud and you stop?), plus I was able to hear conversations that were taking place far away.
Now for the good news: My test results and hits. I had been wearing A314 and Ammo (1 drop A314 , 3 sprays Ammo ) for a week and got some nice results. I got a latina woman being very friendly to me and calling me “the leader” when wearing this. I’ve also met several other girls with it on. No joke, I have been wearing this mix in my French class and my teacher is definetely attracted me. I am 20 and she is probably about 28. Wow. Wearing Ammo and P83 she asked me if I liked older women. I told her up to 40 is straight. Wearing Ammo and P83 yesterday, a girl randomly walked by me and commented that she liked my shirt. Was it the pheromones? No idea but I’ve worn the shirt once a week the past year and no one ever said anything.
My ex girlfriend is increasingly flirty to me now. I have gotten the best hit on her with Ammo . I don’t know if she is increasingly flirty towards me because of pheromones though. since my last post in this thread I began to dissappear form her life. I stopped calling or trying to get her to have long talks at college. When I see her I just say I am busy and have to go. And you know what? As soon as I started doing that she calls me saying “I never get to talk to you, where are you…your so busy all the time…”. She got mad because I took a day to call her back. From then on when I see her, she is asking me why I ignore her but at the same time being increasingly flirty and touchy. I was sitting with her for a minute and went to the bathroom and sprayed on some p83. Her whole mood changed when I returned with it on. She seemed so happy to be in my presence. 2 days ago she told me I’m handsome when I was wearing Ammo . My take on this is that Ammo has helped. I am not sure about Ammo + p83 though because I tested it out sitting next to a 10/10 girl in my class who I have some rappaport with and I saw no noticeable effects.
In my limited experience with p83, I’ve found that it’s best used as a daytime/low key sexual attractant. In wild parties where everyone is drunk, girls don’t seem to notice my p83 much…
P83 seems to have a sort of gentlemanly vibe to it, but is really sexual at the same time. I think part of the reason it seems to lower ASD behaviors is it might give off a trustworthy AND sexual vibe. She knows that, not only will you give her a good time, but she’s safe with you…
P83 is a better daytime sexual attractant, though, because it creates attraction without looking like you’re “coming on to her.” Sort of like her thinking, “You know, he’s a really nice guy… and hot, too!” Also seems like it could be used with awesome results on dates…
Now… if there’s a SPECIFIC girl you wanna attract and you know she’s gonna be at the party. P83 might work well…
Tater doesnt think its an inhibition-lowering agent. It seems to make things feel good, so (touch-sensing). If you get her touching or thinking about touching, P83 greases the slides into wild abandon.
…my notes do say that P83 reduced the inhibitions of everyone in the cloud when I tested it.
From P83, I was hoping for increased precision, and my tests last month got wild behaviour, acute auditory sensitivity, good concentration on details, and definite loss of inhibitions. One woman took off her outer shirt, revealing much more than usual. Hmm.
I like P83. Every so often I wear one or two 5 mcg sprays along with my various combos. All good so far. With P83 I’m flirtier, and the men in my life love my extra-minxy attitude. Other women joke around with me and I get lots of smiles reflected back to me.
There’s just one thing. Little old ladies hate me. Under normal circumstances they ignore me or are polite. But twice now while wearing P83, I’ve been harangued by seemingly sweet 70+ little old grannies.
I’ve been out testing… P83.
I’ve varied the dosage from 2.5-12.5mcg.
The dosages were:
I only have a 2.5mcg spray version, which meant on day 5 I smelt like an alcoholic! But only for about 20 minutes.
The effects of the dosage seemed irrelevant compared to several other factors:
1 - The target It breaks down barriers like a tank and reduces inhibitions and LMR , they become far more flirty and fun. Girls you’ve known for a while and with whom your not romantically linked nor intend to be feel very uncomfortable. They want to do something but know its inappropriate and tend to avoid you as a result. Although this can change depending on the time and place, which neatly brings me to my next point.
2 - Time and place P83 is awesome for the night scene, a little alcohol and P83 can work wonders on girls you’ve only just met. However, in professional settings it can result in mild flirting and a bit of fun IF the target is someone who is outgoing. If they arent then they’ll feel a little confused and do the avoidance thing as a self-defence mechanism to prevent themselves acting in a manner they arent comfortable with. Women I know as friends tend to act more flirty in situations where it is appropriate but again give the cold shoulder in professional settings.
3 - Age of target
All in all its a difficult beast to master, well for me at least. I mean that in the sense that it’s difficult to get a crystal clear handle on the perfect application. It’s pretty simple to get it to work on most occasions but getting that sweet spot everytime is far too dependant on factors outside of my own control.
In my travels P83 is very sexual, yet without a lot of the aggressiveness of none. It doesn’t seem to have a profound self affect, and doesn’t elicit abnormal behavior from other males. For a light touch 5mcg would be good to start, but it also ramps up nicely with more sprays. I like about 15-25, and others have had good reactions upwards at 60.
50 MCG P83
Self effects: Strong. Smiling and self indulgence. Effects on others: Women somewhat affected. Men responded mostly to self effects. Worn at home, car, work, restaurant, and mall.
Detailed Review : Singing Dancing Girl
I was brave and wore 10 sprays, topped up throughout the day. No other pheromones. At first I put the P83 on a kleenex as planned. Then I thought WTH and sprayed my hair and cleavage.
On the way to work, I sang in the car. My expression was ridiculously eager …
In the office hallways, it was as if I were a magnet and others had to bump into me. ..
The Downside
There are two negatives to P83, and they could be minimized or even overridden by other pheromones.
1. P83 does not attract men on its own. Nor does it turn them off. The attitude it produces is attractive to men, though. I noticed I had guys in my orbit all day, hanging around making hesitant, rather girlish eye contact. I had to initiate the conversations. And in general men seemed dazed and thrilled and amazed, sometimes taken aback, by how happy I was.
2. When thwarted in any way, I got mad all out of proportion. So did other women around me. At the restaurant(lunch), a lady at a table nearby got ever so irritated that she couldn’t have her hibiscus iced tea. And would not let it go.
Later back at work, I felt positively murderous when I tried to print out a document on the group printer, only to find that the toner needed replacing. I banged around the storage cabinets trying to find another cartridge and the team admin came in to see what was the matter. When I told her, she too became incensed. Not really proud of that reaction, but it happened.
Oh and one last thing. I ended the day with a crazy hot phone call to my current kinda-sorta-almost-boyfriend.
P83 seems to be a very effective pheromone in the comfort/seduction phases. It’s especially effective the more kino (touching) there is. Usually in the “opening/attraction” phase, there isn’t as much touching, so it’s not as effective (unless you’re at a dance club and/or around a lot of drunk people).
P83 is sort of a passive -none. I don’t mean it makes you appear passive, but I mean it doesn’t attract the attention that -none does (at least in my experience). -None will cause arousal in many women out of thin air(but it’s your job to convince her that you’re the cause of it), hence it is “active.” P83 will not, hence it’s “passivity”, but it will enhance these feelings if there’s even a sliver of them there, often to a level greater than that of -none.
And it’s effects are multiplied if there’s touching involved.
P83, 25 mcg
Home Dinner/popcorn and a dvd
Self effects : None noticed
Effects to others : More cuddly cozy then normal in the sack, wilder, more experimental , dare I say wild …
P83, 12.5 then increasing to 25 mcg
Club, date, New Years eve
Self Effects : None
Effects to others : none at 12mcg at 25 Mcg she became more bubbly made her more playful , a light drinker start doing shots , **cuddly **
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The P83 phenomenon
There was always something strange about P83. It has been reported here as a disinhibitor.
I used it at a dinner party. I was wearing some Turn Up The Heat and was putting the moves on this lovely African American woman. She seemed to be going for it hook, line and sinker. I decided to add some P83 and then close the deal. Well, after I put on the P83 another guy that she knew came over to talk to her and she went with him to take some pictures. Soon after, they went outside of the club. She just left me there. I’ve never had this happen to me so I chalked it up to bad luck. However, I put the P83 away for a few months.
I decided to try the P83 again. I was wearing AMMO at a bar. It was just me and another guy. I was talking to the African American barmaid. She was talking to me and ignoring him. I was making her laugh. I decided to put on the P83 and go for the close. I came out of the bathroom and sat down. She went to refill the other guys drink and never came back to me. At that point I decided that P83 was overhyped crap. I sold my P83 on the trading post and was happily done with it.
I recently ordered A314. In my order was a 5ml of P83 so I decided to give it another go (this is now 2 years after the above 2 incidents). I was wearing 3 drops of A314 + 1 dab of New Pheromone Additive + 2 sprays of P83. I go in to the bar. There was one other guy at the bar. The barmaid was an African American woman who is usually very friendly with me. She just served me my drink took my money and took a $2 tip for herself (which she never does). She never takes a tip like that. She usually waits for me to leave it. I usually tip her $2 per drink. She had been talking to the other guy at the bar and she went right back to talk to him. Usually even if it is busy she will stop and chat with me. Today she didn’t even look my way. I finished my drink and she didn’t come over like she usually does and immediately get me another drink.
African American women are repulsed by P83. Really, to be more accurate it makes them seek out another man.
I posted this P83 report in my journal on January 23rd, 2014. I’m sure I have a few posts about P83 from 2012.
I read a post where one poster was telling another “Don’t wear P83, someone will steal your girlfriend!” As usual I didn’t believe it.
P83 works as a real attractant across all races and age groups except for African American women. They don’t seem to be repulsed by it. P83 seems to tell African American women “Not this one, not this guy. Just move on.” Upon retrospect though I wonder if African American women just have a low tolerance for this pheremone and 25 mcg’s causes ghosting. Whatever it was it was a real bummer being ready to close on a woman only to lose her because you sprayed on some P83. This happened to me 3 times.
There have been some complaints from women about a lack of p83 feedback regarding effects on men, so a user went ahead and tested it on her boyfriend:
Yeah I had my boyfriend smell it and he said it made him feel aroused and euphoric. He said a ten for aroused and nine for euphoric on a scale from 1 to 10. He also said it made him feel unfocused almost embarrassingly so. The then immediately started talking about how awsome this commercial he was watching was and almost cried about it. So I think it effected him in a lot of different ways, I’ve read that it makes people appreciate what they are doing in the moment and the commercial thing seemed out of character for him and he usually makes fun of commercials or just doesn’t react to them at all. He told me this over the phone and I don’t try it until Saturday so we will so how I react to it as well I’ll post on that too.
dePlume
February 26, 2015, 12:32pm
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I’ve had great fun with P83 , it definitely lowers inhibitions in those around me.
One very consistent result I’ve been getting from P83 was women commenting on how good I smell. Happens probably on 60% of occasions that I wear it, even from girls I barely know, or ones known to be shy and reserved. And it isn’t about the scent itself, as I’ve been using it in Neroli , and I don’t often get those comments wearing other Neroli-scented products. So, there
Just for the record, I find all the usual reports (touchy-feely, lower inhibitions etc) true and accurate too.
Yes, I’ve noticed this too - not just with P83 standalone but in mixes with it as well.
I had put this down to an aspect of its disinhibition?
I must say this thread inspired me to go and look at my idea of trying to make a P83 oil again.
And - No, I’ve not got enough spare cash just now.
Never mind - I also see that P83 has gone out of stock again. Hope its not long till we see it back?
I love p83 so much. It’s my favorite putative. I love it so much that I even spray myself for the self effects when I’m home alone relaxing. It makes me feel yummy.
Few of these reflect my observations from trying a to-go of P83 . I started a long thread about the effects it a few years ago.
I didn’t like it and found few uses for it. My first experience was one of severe frustration while driving that almost damaged my manual transmission. I tried it with a lady friend and we spent too much energy butting heads and not enough loving.
Of course, your results may differ but I’ll avoid it as a stand-alone or in a self-made mix.
Whitehall, did you use it alone or in combination with other things? Fighting would still be symptomatic of lowered inhibitions, especially if not steered in a particular direction.
I don’t think you should give up on it just yet. It’s probably safer to stay away from using it solo, though. But it could be a great way to enhance other combos you’ve had success with.
IME P83 won’t deliver particularly well until you use it alongside a mix - then its disinhibition reflects the nature of that mix.
Also, low-medium doses are best alongside social or lightly sexual mixes, whilst higher does do better with overtly sexual or status/sexual.
Sounds like something to mix with NPA or TUTH for a bit more wildness during intimate times. It will probably be included in the next order.
Those are amongst the best to use P83 with IMO.
I wonder about the added scents.
I’d like the P83 to match MX297 and maybe TUTH.
If the latter isn’t feasible, I’ll just try it with NPA and MX297.
As I’ve noted, my first and second experiences with P83 put me off it. The first time with just P83, I almost broke my car. The second time, I spent the evening butting heads when I would have preferred more bumping uglies.
MX297 is in 6% Akuto and TUTH is in 6% Neroli , so take your pick. Personally I’ve found P83 fine in Neroli for nearly all applications, although I have had it in Akuto as well, which makes it slightly less versatile.
I’d also suggest you get it in 10 or 15mcg per spray doses, with those two, I would reckon it will be 30-60mcg for your effective dose range.
I had them mix me bottles of MX297 , TUTH, and P83 in the same Akuto cover scent.
That way I can mix and match (with NPA too) without worrying about cover scent clashes.
Seemed to work last night bar hopping. I offered some to one of my buddies and he could still smell the “sweat” scent from the TUTH under it all. He must have a sensitive nose.
Tried P83 as a stand-alone pre-workout at the gym. Used 3 sprays at 7.5mcg.
I did a much more intense workout than usual but then it is mid-day rather than my usual evening schedule.
Still, I found it easy to push myself beyond my usual intensity and duration. Didn’t do any heavy lifting since its just a hotel gym but the regular weights and machines got more and longer reps.
