My bottle of TAC is 1/4 full so its time to report more on this Molecule.
There are allot of different opinions about TAC.
Which one is the real think no one knows.
So here is what i think about it. ( this is my opinion and it maybe far away from the truth )
I use TAC at business mixes and when i wear heavy A314 + some -NONE.
(i wear a little in the business mixes when you need to be tough and dominant) I have tested this mainly on males i have meetings with.
So from 50-100mcg of TAC + 4 drops of A314 + 5mcg -none
Does the job.
The person is listening very carefully what i am saying and the weirdest thing is that its looking me straight in the eyes with this “YES MASTER” look
(i think i really shouldn’t be posting this in the public section of the forum )
I get good results with A314 + Instant Gentlemen + TAC.
For me TAC is a social trust pheromone. And i am suspecting this to be one of the molecules used in A314
I was unable to OD even at 100mcg…
No negative reactions from people at all.
Some people report that they have vivid dreams with tac.. well i dont
but this is really up to the persons i think because some report the same vivid dream with the nols
Now TAC is in my daily mix (at lower dosege ~25-50mcg… and in higher
50mcg+ when needed)
So to the question Lets TAC… or not ?
I am 100% in for a TAC
Next report - TAF ( but i dont know when )
I know this Thread will be left with no replies at all (like all the TAC threads)
but i think it will be useful for someone..
I have been playing around with TAC myself as well, my usual dosage is 20 - 100 mcg
I never went over 100, I have thought about it, just to see. at 100 i never OD or got any negative reactions, same results you got.
Just curious where are you spraying? I mostly spray on my throat or back of neck.
I am with you that I suspect TAC is a component of A314 since I feel people give me a little more respect with TAC.
I saw the thread about vivid dreams, and so far I have not got anything unusual, which maybe is good, because I have a hard enogh time sleeping as it is, sometimes I have to take sleeping pills normally, since I am a very light sleeper.
When I wear TAC, the vibe I get I am giving off at 80-100 mcg is that I am a confident king of the world, and I can do what I want.
I’ve tested TAC a few times in low doses but didn’t get much out of it…from what you guys say and what I’ve read elsewhere…hummm…somethin’ tells me I need to up it considerably.
yes - it has a group energy aspect to it (which makes sense given what I think it is). and the unpredictable hilarity it catalyzes from time to time might be consistent with people trusting and feeling accepted.
That’s IT! It makes people feel accepted, and as though they can trust you, like theres a bond between you. Look at some of the early Mad Tater posts about TAC. I couldnt quite describe it, but came close. PheroQuirk is a genius!
Idle, PheroQuirk or Tater, would you say that it causing the target to feel accepted or trusted by the wearer, or causing the target to feel trust or acceptance toward the wearer, or both (bonding)? How does this compare to the comfort building aspects of betanol? Do any of you feel that a catalyst (another pheromone or certain types of activity or environment) is needed to activate TAC? I tried it several times with inconclusive results. Thanks.
If TAC is in the A314 formula, why doesn’t A314 EVER have the unpredictable hilarity that TAC is so well known for?
Perhaps the dosage of TAC in the formula is too small - could anyone who has used TAC please mention the lowest dosage of that molecule when a TAC unpredictable hilarity hit occurred for them?
I have TAC, I get a laid back content feeling with it. Others seem laid back and possibly like Tater said they connect better with you.
SteveO runs over small trees with his car when he uses it LOL J/K well not really he did run over a bush but he was on the phone with me. He took it very well LOL
my biggest self effects on TAC is - gives me the confidence to go up to a perfect stanger to talk to them and nothing seems to bother me, especially when i get rejected by a girl I hit on
i originally bought a bottle at 5 mcg and i did not see effects until i sprayed myself about 5-6 times, so my next bottle I got it at 20 mcg
the point is that the group will act that way. (you need to watch groups to initially grasp this dimension of TAC - a dyad won’t do). it’s possible but rare that one person could shift group energy in that direction and it probably only works in certain contexts. also i think goofiness is a different thing from what arises from tac-acceptance.
dyadic (one to one) bonding is different from the group acceptance. you might have a cooler vibe with a little TAC, but I don’t think it will be anything like as intense as betanol or as steady as rone.
tac-itus is the genius with an exquisitely developed and unusual collection of skills. all his posts here and on another forum are worth reading several times. (one chunk at a time). people should experiment a bit more with TAC and TAA - they pull in different directions, but why is this? what does it tell us about their natures?
i did wonder whether tac might be an element of instant gentleman (the smoothness), although I have never observed the hilarity with it. i don’t think i have used tac much in proper complex mixes - always in 25+mcg hits.
note that the hilarity doesn’t seem to happen every time. i would say 1 out of 3-4 times when in a group. it’s doing more to group energies than just making people feel comfortable. but operating at level just below what i can notice and then describe in a crisp way.
projection of power (whether none caveman or rone daddy) combined with tac ease = attractive combination: spezzatura.
TAC ease!!! OK, that helps me connect some of the dots on this one. I have noticed that wearing in situations that might be a little awkward made them seem less so. I don’t mean that as a self effect. People seem easier. Ease is a good way of putting it. I was looking too much for screaming fits of laughter and that isn’t it at all, but if the screaming fit of laughter is there to be had it can feel alright.
I was wearing
4 A314
2 TAA
3 CTTM 2
2 Instant Openness
50 mcg TAC
i am wearing this mix allot but without the TAC.
Now with the TAC i had a great experience.
Everyone at the table ware really happy and joyful.
The girl next to me after 20 min started to tell jokes one after another.
Everyone was joking around and having fun.
I point this because on the table ware 8 people that dont know each other so well. So i expected this to be a boring night… but i was surprised how thing went.
The results can be compared to Spaceland.. but not exactly..
We had a great laugh all the time for something we discussed.
With spaceland we would probably laugh at anything even without talking this leads to idle tough N.17 in my journal
Hey Visionary, I found this post by Michael, which seems to indicate that A314 contains TAC. Let me know if you think the same or if I misread what he meant.
Michael: "…There may be a few more mods made to an eventual spray version of A314. I should take MX172 and make variations of it for the next A314 test pack.
See what a lower -none version will do, a TACless version, one with P80, etc. I’d love to be able to predict what all possible variations would do, but sometimes there’s surprises in a complex mix. Predictions are inferior to actual test results at this point in the game…"
Yea man if Michael said it and it is HIS product then it must be true. It probably contains TAC in low dosages (to utilise some of TAC’s ‘ease’/‘smoothness’) as otherwise we would definitely see a hilarity-type reaction once in a while with high doses of A314 and I’ve never heard of that happen.
The thing is, in my experience, you will always have a mone poking it’s effect through in a mix at least once in a while. So maybe the dosage of TAC is low enough and is so well buffered by A314’s more serious masculine notes (AndrosteRone and small amounts of AndrostEnone) that the hilarity never ever comes out when wearing A314…
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